fat kid getting bullied slams other kid

[davmat787]

lol at the ITG's that think he should have known his strength because he is "fat" and somehow held back. Obviously you have never defended yourself. When you are being attacked and have sustained several punches to the face and the attacker is not letting up, you are not thinking of how to NOT hurt the other person, the goal is to hurt the other person so they will stop.

Armchair forum self defense in hindsight at its finest.

 

[Train]

My 10 year old daughter is big and tall for her age AND she is slightly older than her classmates. She is also sweet as can be, so an easy target for bullies. We heard through the grapevine that a couple girls were giving my daughter a hard time, so my wife gave her the "walk away" speech.

We then heard that when my daughter would walk away (in this case, change tables she was sitting at for lunch), the girls would follow her. My wife gave her the "tell them to leave you alone" speech.

We THEN heard that the girls were further bothering my daughter, possibly including touching her person (not private parts, but not nice touches). *I* then gave my daughter the "kick their f*cking a*ses if they EVER touch you in an offensive manner" speech. I also told her that I would 100% back her up after she gave them a good beating/education of good manners. She got such a cute smile on her face.

After that, I think the knowledge that she was allowed to fight back gave her the confidence to tell them off in a way that stuck, short of having to throw down. Things are much better now.

MotionMan

Amen to that.

Kids will get physical at least a few times growing up, it is inevitable. It's part of being a kid. If a kid goes through all the possible steps to defuse a situation, and still fails, physicalness is warranted to stop abuse.

Let's be real, the "get an adult" rule can't save you all the time, and sometimes can make things worse. A kid needs to learn to handle his/herself among peers.

 

[MotionMan]

lol at the ITG's that think he should have known his strength because he is "fat" and somehow held back. Obviously you have never defended yourself. When you are being attacked and have sustained several punches to the face and the attacker is not letting up, you are not thinking of how to NOT hurt the other person, the goal is to hurt the other person so they will stop.

Armchair forum self defense in hindsight at its finest.

Like I said above, I did not know that I was going to be able to defeat the bully until I did. (Duh! If you knew you could beat him up, why would you be scared of him?)

Also, once I snapped, I was fully prepared to kill the bully. The teacher quite literally saved his life when she pulled me off of him.

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes.

MotionMan

 

[highland145]

Like I said above, I did not know that I was going to be able to defeat the bully until I did. (Duh! If you knew you could beat him up, why would you be scared of him?)

Also, once I snapped, I was fully prepared to kill the bully. The teacher quite literally saved his life when she pulled me off of him.

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes.

MotionMan

But they aren't as comfortable as my satin slippers.

 

[MotionMan]

But they aren't as comfortable as my satin slippers.

I know you are trying to be funny, but you actually helped prove my point.

Thanks.

MotionMan

 

[ShawnD1]

We THEN heard that the girls were further bothering my daughter, possibly including touching her person (not private parts, but not nice touches). *I* then gave my daughter the "kick their f*cking a*ses if they EVER touch you in an offensive manner" speech. I also told her that I would 100% back her up after she gave them a good beating/education of good manners. She got such a cute smile on her face.

After that, I think the knowledge that she was allowed to fight back gave her the confidence to tell them off in a way that stuck, short of having to throw down. Things are much better now.

MotionMan

It's nice to hear things are working out for your family. Nobody should need to live with that kind of stress.

 

[davmat787]

Like I said above, I did not know that I was going to be able to defeat the bully until I did. (Duh! If you knew you could beat him up, why would you be scared of him?)

Also, once I snapped, I was fully prepared to kill the bully. The teacher quite literally saved his life when she pulled me off of him.

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes.

MotionMan

But he didn't kill him, almost or otherwise. He walked away after defending himself adequately enough to stop getting punched in the face. From the article the bully walked away with a only a skinned knee the next day to show for it.

I am also saying not criticize Casey before you walk a mile in his shoes, that is my point! Nor would I criticize how you handled your incident. That's all.

 

[MotionMan]

But he didn't kill him, almost or otherwise. He walked away after defending himself adequately enough to stop getting punched in the face. From the article the bully walked away with a only a skinned knee the next day to show for it.

I am also saying not criticize Casey before you walk a mile in his shoes, that is my point! Nor would I criticize how you handled your incident. That's all.

I think the bully was lucky the other guy kind of stepped in.

MotionMan

 

[waggy]

Coolest thing I ever saw was the small Asian kid lose it and attack a guy twice his size. He completely choked the bigger guy out. It wasn't really a bully, just more of a guy who liked to show off wrestling moves and things like that.

i wrestled from 6-26 (until a motorcycle accident fucked me up).

Wrestling is a sport but hell its a good self defense too (well against one attacker). I know enough moves that i can lay a hurting on someone very easily.

i have seen guys that were smaller then me get in fights and do shit and fuck up others. you can really hurt someone without having to punch them (though that helps too).

my son is 4 and wants to join hapkido, wrestling (have to be 5 for both) along with gymnastics (don't laugh. it helps build strength and flexibility and he loves it). I will tell him no fighting..but don't be bullied and protect your sister.

my daughter is 8 and the size of the average 5 yr old. i asked her if she wanted to join hapkido (its taught at her gymnastics place) and she would rather take another gymnastics class heh

 

[waggy]

I think the bully was lucky the other guy kind of stepped in.

MotionMan

the big kid was not going to continue the attack. he was just looking at him crawl away. then he turns and leaves.

shrug either way he was right on for defending himself.

 

[jonks]

Stephen King writes the bully scenario into a lot of his books (Salems Lot, It, The Body, etc), and he knows bully's don't stop when you tattle or 'walk away' or 'be the bigger man' or any of that nonsense shit. Bullys are fucking scary when you're a kid, and you have little recourse and no power. And if you decide to fight back, you better fucking make a convincing job of it or you'll just be asking for more.

Saying the kid should have used 'the amount of force proportional to the threat' or other legal standards is not going to fly. Abused for years, probably borderline suicidal. A body slam was called for here.

He's not a danger to society. He isn't a threat to anyone who doesn't punch him in the face first, and isn't that what we all should be? Give him a fucking medal.

 

[totalnoob]

 

[0roo0roo]

Can you say pwn'd? Some trolls, need to stop trolling.

Victim of school bullying a web hero

Dumbass, I was talking about columbine, you know this.. troll

 

[Anneka]

I can't stop watching it again and again...

 

[Sephire]

 

[dud]

The mother of the boy who first attacked Casey said yesterday her family had been harassed.

The emotional mother of Ritchard Gale, the Year 7 student from Chifley College hurled to the ground after trying to start a fight with a student, said she was sick of the negative attention on her son: "We're sick of the harassment and everything that is going on. It's just a really bad time for us."


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/worldwide-fame-for-sydney-bully-victim/story-fn6b3v4f-1226022776927



I don't know what to say ...

 

[highland145]

I know you are trying to be funny, but you actually helped prove my point.

Thanks.

MotionMan

I was going for both. You're welcome.

 

[Ninjahedge]

Dud, from the article:

According to research, bystanders see 85 per cent of school bullying incidents but adults are rarely present. It also says bullying is reinforced when bystanders do nothing to stop it.

But when the bystanders do intervene the bullying is more likely to stop quickly.

And this behavior does not change when we "grow up".

 

[highland145]

The mother of the boy who first attacked Casey said yesterday her family had been harassed.

The emotional mother of Ritchard Gale, the Year 7 student from Chifley College hurled to the ground after trying to start a fight with a student, said she was sick of the negative attention on her son: "We're sick of the harassment and everything that is going on. It's just a really bad time for us."


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/worldwide-fame-for-sydney-bully-victim/story-fn6b3v4f-1226022776927



I don't know what to say ...

Payback. It's a bitch.
or
Maybe you should teach your child some character values? That's a good start.

 

[highland145]

Dud, from the article:



And this behavior does not change when we "grow up".

Had a talk with my, soon to be, 10 year old last night. Don't know if it sunk in.

 

[dud]

Dud, from the article:



And this behavior does not change when we "grow up".

I agree wholeheartedly. I've posted previously in this thread that with respect to bullying, there are three (3) classes of people: The bully, the victim ... and the bystander. The real power is with the bystander. If they intervene, the bullying ends. When the bystander does nothing it is akin to the group giving the bully permission to proceed.

I did not quote that verbiage because I, at my age, am still a naive fool to believe that this woman could have anything to say or any feelings at all for her son's victim and the hell that he (Casey) has been put through by her son.

 

[Sea Moose]

Playing "what if" does not change the situation.

That is not what happened and does not validate any alternate result.



No, he doesn't. You kill someone, they are dead. There are different motivators for this which make the crime more or less serious. From 1st degree murder, to self defense.

The big kid was not in danger of losing his life. He could have walked away. He could have called a teacher. Are these PLAUSIBLE situations in a school yard? No. He would have been teased mercilessly about it if he had done any of them.

But that STILL does not validate the extent he went to.

This is the hard thing. I am seeing a LOT of people here that have probably had something similar happen to them and wished that THEY could have done something similar. We all do to some extent.

The problem is, whether we sympathize for the big kid in this or not, both of these guys need to know how to conduct themselves appropriately in life. If they don't, this will not be the last of their problems.

In the real world, when you are getting assaulted, you are allowed to eliminate the threat.

Someone comes at you with a knife, or punches you in the face, you gonna call an adult?

its the fight or flight thing. If you instinct is that you cannot escape then you fight. Little kid got everything he deserved. Casey eliminated the threat to his personal safety.

Casey should be commended for not laying in kicks and spitting on little kid (as i would have done)

He showed great constrained and defended himself well.



Casey will pick up the chicks after this

 

[highland145]

Casey will pick up the chicks after this

They've been bullying him , too?

 

[yhelothar]

There is no question that the retaliation was the victim's only choice to make his life less of a torment. It probably was the best choice he's ever made in his life.
Teachers and asshole school administrators doesn't give two shits about bullying. In fact, most of them thinks the bullied must've done something to deserve the bullying. It's a disgusting reality.
Fighting back is the only way to making things better for yourself. Now this kid is likely to get a helluva lot more respect among his peers and no one would pick on him anymore. He's probably for the first time in his life going to have a social life.

The reality of the matter is, society and parents in general do not teach kids about empathy. They do not teach kids to put themselves in someone else's shoes. A lot of kids are quite psychopathic little bastards.
What needs to be done is schools and parents need to teach kids empathy. This has been tried in a few schools and has shown some promising results.

 

[waggy]

The mother of the boy who first attacked Casey said yesterday her family had been harassed.

The emotional mother of Ritchard Gale, the Year 7 student from Chifley College hurled to the ground after trying to start a fight with a student, said she was sick of the negative attention on her son: "We're sick of the harassment and everything that is going on. It's just a really bad time for us."


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/worldwide-fame-for-sydney-bully-victim/story-fn6b3v4f-1226022776927



I don't know what to say ...

lol so they don't like that they are getting bullied?

i do think people should leave them alone. i think the little shit got the message to not start fights.