Fat burning pills?

[Syringer]

So I'm not a fat person by any means, I workout regularly and though I haven't measured my body fat %..if I had to guess based on what I've seen on others I'd say it's around 13%-14%.

What I want to do though is reduce it a bit to around 10%, and I plan on starting a HITT program and continue lifting weights to try to reduce it down. However would there be any good supplemental aids to speed up the process a bit?

 

[Fingolfin269]

Hell, that would have been an easy question to answer 6-9 months ago. I think most of the stuff currently on the shelves is junk unless you can find some random boondock gas station that still sells ephedra.

 

[Looney]

I'm not a big believer in these, not until you get into the more illegal and dangerous stuff (like clen and DNP - which can kill). Even ephedrine, caffeine, aspirin combo was only raising your metabolism by only 2-3%, which is miniscule... people lost weight more from the appetite suppressant and increased energy than from the actual metabolism rising.

You have to remember that if you use pills or even cut your diet to lose the fat, as soon as you stop taking the pills and revert back to your normal diet, it will come back anyways. So the best thing to do is an actual lifestyle change.

Ephedra is still sold, just sold under HCL and in smaller doses (for allergies and such).

 

[jst0ney]

<sarcasm>The best ones are the ones that are five miles away that you have to walk to every day to get. They work great.</sarcasm>

Sorry I couldn't help myself. The truth is that there is no pill that will do the work for you. The basics of loosing weight are easy. Burn more than you take in, ie eat less or exercise more or both. What you are talking about is changing body composition. Redusing your body fat with out increasing your lean body mass is useless. You are on the right track if you are lifting weights. Are you have a cardio workout in place? Many times that makes the difference.

As with all things, hard work pays off and speeding up the process is false. Ephedra worked by increasing metabolism. Sure that worked but when you stop taking ephedra metobolism slowed down and the weight comes right back.

 

[SWScorch]

for the love of crap, pills can't make you fit. Only eating right and exercising regularly can.

 

[ironcrotch]

Originally posted by: SWScorch
for the love of crap, pills can't make you fit. Only eating right and exercising regularly can.

amen to that! the only real way to burn fat is to make more muscle. lots of cardio, if u lift lower weight and more reps. :thumbsup:

 

[Gurck]

You can still get ephedra, just not in the usual form - you have to get ephedrine HCL. I'm not fully sure of the laws regarding it; I was able to find a reputable online company (searched bizrate) to ship it here (NY), but otoh all the fat burners have stopped using it as an ingredient entirely, many online supplement stores *don't* have it, and I'm fairly sure GNC and similar stores don't carry it.

You obviously can't have a routine of taking one and then going to pig out at McDonalds, but it is a big help. The biggest part of this is its power as an appetite suppressant, and it also, being a stimulant, gives you energy - which you can use to do cardiovascular exercise. However in controlled studies people on the same diet and exercise regimen lost much more fat while on it vs. the control group. I forget the study length, but the control group lost 18 pounds average, while the ephedra group lost 20 - however, the control group lost an average of 9 pounds of fat, 9 pounds of muscle while the ephedra group lost 18 pounds of fat &amp; 2 pounds of muscle.

FYI being at a calorie defecit (eating less than you burn, which is required to lose weight) does have the side effect of losing muscle. You can combat it by lifting, but don't expect to gain much strength while dieting.

Using it requires a brain, of course. If the directions say to take one, you take (surprise) one. 20 will not work 20 times as well. People who're already at risk should be careful, if they take it at all, since it raises blood pressure; smokers, the morbidly obese, middle-aged &amp; older folk, those with hypertension, those with heart disease, and anything else in that area I missed. Using it if you have a heart deformity or heart arrythmia is a no-no.

 

[Zim Hosein]

Trim Spa Baby!

 

[SpunkyJones]

Originally posted by: SWScorch
for the love of crap, pills can't make you fit. Only eating right and exercising regularly can.

:thumbsup: It really is this simple. Really.

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: SpunkyJones

Originally posted by: SWScorch
for the love of crap, pills can't make you fit. Only eating right and exercising regularly can.

:thumbsup: It really is this simple. Really.

Dunno about you spunk, but SWScorch is one of the skinniest people I've ever seen. Sorry, but people like you (damn you, damn you to hell ) don't have the vaguest idea about this sort of thing. Read my post. Of course diet &amp; exercise are the most important factors, but ephedrine is about as close as you can come to a magic pill without smoking tobacco or using dangerous illegal stimulants (coke, crack, meth).

 

[PingSpike]

Is cocaine available in pill form? You could try snorting it if it isn't.

 

[Zim Hosein]

Originally posted by: PingSpike
Is cocaine available in pill form? You could try snorting it if it isn't.

:Q

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: PingSpike
Is cocaine available in pill form? You could try snorting it if it isn't.

Gets too damn expensive

 

[SpunkyJones]

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: SpunkyJones

Originally posted by: SWScorch
for the love of crap, pills can't make you fit. Only eating right and exercising regularly can.

:thumbsup: It really is this simple. Really.

Dunno about you spunk, but SWScorch is one of the skinniest people I've ever seen. Sorry, but people like you (damn you, damn you to hell ) don't have the vaguest idea about this sort of thing. Read my post. Of course diet &amp; exercise are the most important factors, but ephedrine is about as close as you can come to a magic pill without smoking tobacco or using dangerous illegal stimulants (coke, crack, meth).

I'm on the heavier end of the scale.

But its not my fault, dam stinkin wife cooking all that delicious food, day after day. :thumbsup:

 

[Antisocial Virge]

Originally posted by: Gurck
You can still get ephedra, just not in the usual form - you have to get ephedrine HCL.

Wow, I'm really surprised you can still get that. From what I have read its still legal because it is aimed as a respiratory drug and has "drug facts" on the box and not "supplement facts". I used this years ago and its pretty potent stuff. It constricts vessels making it seem like your sucking air through a straw but it will bounce you off the walls. Friend took two pills once and thought it was gonna kill him. One girl I knew said she went to a store to ask for something to help her stay up and study. The morons gave her ephedrine HCL. She ended up with chest pains and was wondering why untill I saw what she was using. Just use carefully. I must admit it did wonders on my workouts but there is no way it should be used all the time.

 

[SWScorch]

Gurck: I resemble that remark! Yes, I am naturally skinny, but I'd like to think I do have the vaguest idea about this stuff. I know that metabolism-enhancing pills are not perfectly safe, and that you can achieve the same results through plain old exercise and eating right. It just might take longer, but from what I've read, heard and observed, it's more natural and less stress on your body.

If you can tell me 100% that these pills can do more than is possible with regular exercise, get you in better shape, and leave you healthier, then I respectfully bow down and retract statement. Otherwise, I still stand by it.

 

[hevnsnt]

Diet and Exercise

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: Antisocial-Virge

Originally posted by: Gurck
You can still get ephedra, just not in the usual form - you have to get ephedrine HCL.

Wow, I'm really surprised you can still get that. From what I have read its still legal because it is aimed as a respiratory drug and has "drug facts" on the box and not "supplement facts". I used this years ago and its pretty potent stuff. It constricts vessels making it seem like your sucking air through a straw but it will bounce you off the walls. Friend took two pills once and thought it was gonna kill him. One girl I knew said she went to a store to ask for something to help her stay up and study. The morons gave her ephedrine HCL. She ended up with chest pains and was wondering why untill I saw what she was using. Just use carefully. I must admit it did wonders on my workouts but there is no way it should be used all the time.

It works because it's potent, and so it needs to be respected. No college kid ideas about getting high and such. Used properly it's quite effective. Even used improperly, it's rarely fatal. 155 deaths over the past ten years have been attributed to it, and all were people who were really asking for it; people with preexisting heart conditions and morbidly obese hypertensive smokers going by the logic that 20 pills will make them skinny 20 times as fast!!11... Darwin Award winners, in other words.

It's also a tool, not a magic pill. Magic pills don't exist.

 

[Doboji]

I can tell you in my personal experience I lost 50lbs by doing the Atkins diet.... and all the low-carb nay-sayers STFU... It simply works.... Add in exercise, and you can maintain the weight loss even after you go off the diet.

-Max

 

[Rudee]

There is no such thing as a fat burning pill. Thermogenic aids such as ephedra give a temporary increase of metabolism, but they are not a long term cure for weightloss. If you want to naturally increase your metabolism, eat smaller meals more frequently throughout the day, and do strength training. Strength training will add muscle, and muscle is metabolically active, thus the more you have the faster your base metabolic rate.

 

[J0hnny]

Cytomax!!!

Use it on your regular exercise regimen and keep increasing your workout routine. You'll be skinny in no time!

Cytomax Me!

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: Rudee
There is no such thing as a fat burning pill. Thermogenic aids such as ephedra give a temporary increase of metabolism, but they are not a long term cure for weightloss. If you want to naturally increase your metabolism, eat smaller meals more frequently throughout the day, and do strength training. Strength training will add muscle, and muscle is metabolically active, thus the more you have the faster your base metabolic rate.

The main reason for ephedra's effectiveness is its appetite suppression.

Originally posted by: SWScorch
Gurck: I resemble that remark! Yes, I am naturally skinny, but I'd like to think I do have the vaguest idea about this stuff. I know that metabolism-enhancing pills are not perfectly safe, and that you can achieve the same results through plain old exercise and eating right. It just might take longer, but from what I've read, heard and observed, it's more natural and less stress on your body.

If you can tell me 100% that these pills can do more than is possible with regular exercise, get you in better shape, and leave you healthier, then I respectfully bow down and retract statement. Otherwise, I still stand by it.

Well, you know the practical facts, but it's hard to understand it from someone else's point of view. It's easy to say you need to burn more calories than you eat to lose weight, which is true, if you're the type who can eat 3-4k calories a day, not lift a finger, and be rail-thin.. it's quite another to have to actually do it when you don't have an insane metabolism. Some people simply have it easier than others. Enjoy it, you won the gene lottery, at least in this important aspect of it. Not everyone has it so easy.

 

[SWScorch]

:beer:

 

[topslop1]

go to www.bodbuilding.com and read some articles. They'll really set you straight okay?

 

[OutHouse]

http://www.chitogenics.com/ I dont care what you people say. I lost 20 pounds and 3 inches in my waist from taking these.

so for me yes they do work.