Fat Burner Supplements...

[Vernor]

I believe the only thing proven to work is the ephedrine-caffeine stack.


There's a lot of crap out there.

 

[Whisper]

I don't have any articles to cite, but I do know some of the following facts:

-Weight-lifting burns roughly (at least) 350-400 calories/hour
-Weight-lifting increases lean muscle mass more than cardio, and lean muscle mass increases your overall metabolism
-You continue to burn calories at an accelerated rate for up to 2-3 hours after lifting weights

Cardio is great in its own right, don't get me wrong. If you already lift weights and want to shed a few extra pounds, then throw in 30 minutes of jogging a day and watch the weight fall off. However, if I were to recommend a plan for someone that wanted to lose weight and who was currently doing nothing physical beyond walking to work, I would definitely put them on a weight-lifting program. Increases strength, improves appearance and health, reduces body fat, strengthens bones, and a whole host of other shtuff.

Edit: and btw, for the whole "how many calories does a pound of lean muscle burn while resting" deal...I have no idea, but using an online metabolism calculator thingamajigger (ok, so maybe not the most trusthworth source, but oh well), I burn roughly 1800 calories/day doing absolutely nothing. I'm male, between 5'10" and 5'11" in height and weigh something like 162 lbs.

 

[godmare]

Originally posted by: Kemosabe1447

Originally posted by: godmare

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
I think cardio is the best way to lose all of those pounds. Don't rely on some herb. I wouldn't. I used to take Xenadrine but it didn't work so I stopped taking it.

Actually, weight training more effectively burns calories, raises metabolism, and maintains metabolic elevation for longer periods of time. This I can actually cite research, if you want

Not that I don't believe you, but where did you hear it? Because I would like to read up on that.

Muscle and Fitness magazine.
Ben Weider did an editorial on it, the University of Wisconsin- LaCrosse did the research. It of course gives specific calorie counts and such.

 

[iamme]

Originally posted by: godmare

Originally posted by: Kemosabe1447

Originally posted by: godmare

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
I think cardio is the best way to lose all of those pounds. Don't rely on some herb. I wouldn't. I used to take Xenadrine but it didn't work so I stopped taking it.

Actually, weight training more effectively burns calories, raises metabolism, and maintains metabolic elevation for longer periods of time. This I can actually cite research, if you want

Not that I don't believe you, but where did you hear it? Because I would like to read up on that.

Muscle and Fitness magazine.
Ben Weider did an editorial on it, the University of Wisconsin- LaCrosse did the research. It of course gives specific calorie counts and such.

so, 30 minutes of lifting weights will burn as much, or more, calories than running for 30 minutes?

 

[Nocturnal]

Can you still eat out at Jack and the Box etc etc but do cardio and maintain a regular weight?

 

[Scope]

Technically if calories in=calories used, then your weight shouldn't change at all.

Scope!

 

[JSClark]

Originally posted by: godmare
Well, ephedrine's illegal now, so I'd recommend focusing on those not including it
I have used a few in my day Q), Hydroxycut had the best impact. Of course, you act like you're on coke when using that sh!t....
Try Xenadrine EFX, that's supposed to be good.

NOOOOOOOO!!!!!! NO on the Xenadrine!! that stuff is awful... I was on that stuff for 2 weeks and had to stop because my body was getting all sorts screwed up... I was tired yet jittery, couldn't think straight....that stuff is just bad news....

 

[Scope]

Xenadrine EFX is Ephedra free, you shouldn't have been too jittery from that one. Xenadrine RFA-1 is the bad one.

Scope!

 

[StageLeft]

Weights burn calories differently depending on intensity. I know that I don't burn as much mentioned there because I do long rests between sets If you're going madly through a workout though you can burn a goodly number, but for brute calories burned cardio is still the way to go...although as mentioned it won't add a significant amount of muscle to you in most cases.

 

[iamme]

Question: I have a "skinny" body frame, but I've developed some love handles and kind of a gut . I want to lift weights to get bigger and lose fat at the same time. I remember a previous thread saying you can't gain lots of muscle and burn lots of fat at the same time. Should I work on losing the fat, then packing on muscle or vice versa? Or can I just do both at the same time?

 

[godmare]

Originally posted by: iamme
so, 30 minutes of lifting weights will burn as much, or more, calories than running for 30 minutes?

Not in so many words.

From 'muscle and Fitness' January 2003.
the 'New' Cardio, by Joe Weider (laboriously typed by godmare)

If you thought running or other aerobic activities were the only way to a healthy heart, take note: Research is provingthat resistance training is effective in reducing blood pressure, controlling coronary risk factors, and is a great help in preventing and managing diseases such as diabetes and osteoporosis. And that's on top of improving one's strength, endurance, and psychological well-being.
In other words, weight training boasts many of the same benefits often associated directly with cardio workouts! A regimen that incudes both is definitely a powerful one-two combo to maintainyour body and your health, but many people focus too much of their limited energies on cardio, which is a mistake in my estimation.
you see, for years, weight traininghas suffered from misinformation, or at least a lack of information, among some exercisers. Specifically, people training more to protect their health than build their body think cardio is the best option for that goal- so they lace up their running shoes, jump on the bike, or crankout 40 minutes on the elliptical machine and may never even touch a weight during their workouts. After al, cardiovascular training is all about the heart, while weight training is all about building big muscles, right?
Well, wrong, actually, as I've been arguing for years. And now science is catching up. Indeed, rsistance training offers it all in terms of benefits. And while cardio is a sound component of a total health and fitness program, it's certainly not the most efficient road to benefits if you do cardio as your main mode of exercise and weight-train only as an afterthought.
A recent study from the University of Wisconsin-LaCrosse, reported in the European Journal of Applied Physiology, offers even more compelling evidence. Researchers found that after a 30-minute full-body workout, where subjects trained with their 10-rep max weights, resting metabolic rate was elevated by %20 for two days following the exercise session. In a 180-pound man, that averages to an extra 400 calories per day! Additionally, the percentage of fat that was burned by the subjects also increased.The researchers concluded that the energy required to recover from resistance exercise was significant enough to be helpful in a weight-loss program.
Following aerobic exercise, a person's resting metabolic rate remains elevated for anywhere from 60 minutes to about 12 hours, depending on the intensity and duration of the exercixe session. Although a typical weightlifting workout may burn only about 60% of the calories burned during a moderate bout of cardio of the same duration (for instance, a 180-pound manwould burn 210 caloriesi n 30 minutes of weight training vs. 360 calories if he jogged at 6 mph for the same period), that gap closes over the longer term. The payoff for weight training comes during the following rest days, when that 180-pound man would burn an additional 800 calories simply from an elevated metabolism.
Another thing to consider: Cardio activity may burn calories, and it does condition the heart, but one thing cardio activity does not do is promote significant skeletal muscle growth. And muscle is a metabolic machine - a pound of muscle burns about 35-50 calories per day on average. Sure, it's not much by itself, but it adds up. Add 5 pounds of muscle, and your body will burn about 250 more calories each and every day. Suddenly, calories that were going to your midsection will be used as muscle fuel, keeping you leaner over the long haul,
In a succesful fitness program, you need both weight training and cardio - just keep in mindwhich form of exercise gives you the most bang for your buck!

 

[godmare]

Bump cuz I spent way too long copying that ^^^ for no one to read it

 

[Scope]

Hey man, I read it.

Scope!

 

[godmare]

Originally posted by: Scope
Hey man, I read it.

Scope!

Sweet!

 

[yakko]

Go with proper diet and exercise and you will be better off for it.