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Sust

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I'm not asking about those who pour regular unleaded into a car designed for at least 91 octane. I'm also not asking about trucks or SUVs of any sort.

From what i've seen so far, it looks like a new honda accord V6 is the most powerful V6 using regular unleaded (or 87 octane if you'd rather go by octane.)

I'd appreciate it if anyone else know of a new car with more horsepower that runs on regular?
 

overst33r

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Soon to come Pontiac G8 will run on regular making 360hp/380ftlbs. The Hyundai Genesis is supposed to make like 370hp on regular too... We'll see.

Currently though, a 2008 Chevrolet Impala SS comes to mind. 303hp/320ftlbs

Cadillac CTS with the new DI V6 has 304hp... I think that runs on regular.

 

Jeff7181

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I don't think the Accord's V6 makes 268 HP on 87 octane. That's the minimum you can put in the engine and not cause problems... but I'm fairly certain the 268 HP number comes from using 91 octane.
 

sniperruff

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just so you know, the manual for my altima 3.5 says it requires minimum of 87 octane gas so i assume that would work just as well as 91, but like jeff said, i think it'll make less power.

the mustang GT drinks regular too. i doubt it'll make close to 300bhp.
 

caspur

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Originally posted by: mariok2006
Originally posted by: RGUN
2007 Chevrolet Corvette.

Try again.

He is correct.

Fleet corvettes are permitted to run on 87 octane as per the manufacturer's specs. Corvettes for retail sale may differ, however they end up in the same pool after being returned to Chevy at the end of the lease period.

Rather than being "designed" for high octane, think of the corvette as having a "bonus" for putting in premium, but will run just fine on regular.
 

overst33r

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Originally posted by: caspur
Originally posted by: mariok2006
Originally posted by: RGUN
2007 Chevrolet Corvette.

Try again.

He is correct.

Fleet corvettes are permitted to run on 87 octane as per the manufacturer's specs. Corvettes for retail sale may differ, however they end up in the same pool after being returned to Chevy at the end of the lease period.

Rather than being "designed" for high octane, think of the corvette as having a "bonus" for putting in premium, but will run just fine on regular.


Yes, so will any new modern car, because the computer retards the timing, but I am 99% sure it will not make the same power on 87 as it will on 91 or 93.

P.S.
There are fleet corvettes? :confused: What are they used for?

 

caspur

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Fleet cars are usually related to a commercial lease deal. Rental companies hold probably the largest private fleet of cars, though businesses and local governments can sometimes have their own arrangement with manufacturers.



 

fstime

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Originally posted by: caspur
Originally posted by: mariok2006
Originally posted by: RGUN
2007 Chevrolet Corvette.

Try again.

He is correct.

Fleet corvettes are permitted to run on 87 octane as per the manufacturer's specs. Corvettes for retail sale may differ, however they end up in the same pool after being returned to Chevy at the end of the lease period.

Rather than being "designed" for high octane, think of the corvette as having a "bonus" for putting in premium, but will run just fine on regular.

Thats pretty much the case on any modern car.

The Corvette engine was made to run its best on 91+ octane.

I can take any recent engine designed for 91 and put 87. Doesn't mean it will break down but it will effect performance and mileage.

 

Hail The Brain Slug

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Originally posted by: mariok2006
Originally posted by: caspur
Originally posted by: mariok2006
Originally posted by: RGUN
2007 Chevrolet Corvette.

Try again.

He is correct.

Fleet corvettes are permitted to run on 87 octane as per the manufacturer's specs. Corvettes for retail sale may differ, however they end up in the same pool after being returned to Chevy at the end of the lease period.

Rather than being "designed" for high octane, think of the corvette as having a "bonus" for putting in premium, but will run just fine on regular.


Yes, so will any new modern car, because the computer retards the timing, but I am 99% sure it will not make the same power on 87 as it will on 91 or 93.

P.S.
There are fleet corvettes? :confused: What are they used for?

High speed police chases? I know the local state police station here has one.
 

GoatMonkey

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Originally posted by: mariok2006
Originally posted by: caspur
Originally posted by: mariok2006
Originally posted by: RGUN
2007 Chevrolet Corvette.

Try again.

He is correct.

Fleet corvettes are permitted to run on 87 octane as per the manufacturer's specs. Corvettes for retail sale may differ, however they end up in the same pool after being returned to Chevy at the end of the lease period.

Rather than being "designed" for high octane, think of the corvette as having a "bonus" for putting in premium, but will run just fine on regular.


Yes, so will any new modern car, because the computer retards the timing, but I am 99% sure it will not make the same power on 87 as it will on 91 or 93.

P.S.
There are fleet corvettes? :confused: What are they used for?

Now I'm waiting to see the UPS guy roll up in a brown Vette with the special overnight delivery packages.

 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: sniperruff
just so you know, the manual for my altima 3.5 says it requires minimum of 87 octane gas so i assume that would work just as well as 91, but like jeff said, i think it'll make less power.

the mustang GT drinks regular too. i doubt it'll make close to 300bhp.

When I bought my '94 Mustang it was rated for 87 octane but pinged like crazy whenever I put that in the tank. I always had to run premium in that car...of course gas was quite a bit cheaper back in 1996. The manufacturer of my current car recommends premium for best performance, so that is what I put in my car.

I'm curious why the OP needs a car that is designed to run on regular unleaded?
 

MegaVovaN

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Originally posted by: GoatMonkey
Originally posted by: mariok2006
Originally posted by: caspur
Originally posted by: mariok2006
Originally posted by: RGUN
2007 Chevrolet Corvette.

Try again.

He is correct.

Fleet corvettes are permitted to run on 87 octane as per the manufacturer's specs. Corvettes for retail sale may differ, however they end up in the same pool after being returned to Chevy at the end of the lease period.

Rather than being "designed" for high octane, think of the corvette as having a "bonus" for putting in premium, but will run just fine on regular.


Yes, so will any new modern car, because the computer retards the timing, but I am 99% sure it will not make the same power on 87 as it will on 91 or 93.

P.S.
There are fleet corvettes? :confused: What are they used for?

Now I'm waiting to see the UPS guy roll up in a brown Vette with the special overnight delivery packages.

because vette has SO MUCH trunk space?
 

RGUN

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Originally posted by: MegaVovaN
Originally posted by: GoatMonkey
Originally posted by: mariok2006
Originally posted by: caspur
Originally posted by: mariok2006
Originally posted by: RGUN
2007 Chevrolet Corvette.

Try again.

He is correct.

Fleet corvettes are permitted to run on 87 octane as per the manufacturer's specs. Corvettes for retail sale may differ, however they end up in the same pool after being returned to Chevy at the end of the lease period.

Rather than being "designed" for high octane, think of the corvette as having a "bonus" for putting in premium, but will run just fine on regular.


Yes, so will any new modern car, because the computer retards the timing, but I am 99% sure it will not make the same power on 87 as it will on 91 or 93.

P.S.
There are fleet corvettes? :confused: What are they used for?

Now I'm waiting to see the UPS guy roll up in a brown Vette with the special overnight delivery packages.

because vette has SO MUCH trunk space?

You would be surprised, the Vette has tons of trunk space (the targa at least)... way more than you might think.. enough for us to take it to a cottage full of luggage and our 70lb dog. Ohh and the manual says 87 octane fuel is fine.... so thanks, but no need to try again

 

Jeff7181

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Yep, 87 octane is fine. I bet you could even put 86 octane in it and it would be fine. But don't think for a second that the engine will make the same amount of power and get the same mileage as if you used Premium.
 

MegaVovaN

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Originally posted by: RGUN
Originally posted by: MegaVovaN
because vette has SO MUCH trunk space?

You would be surprised, the Vette has tons of trunk space (the targa at least)... way more than you might think.. enough for us to take it to a cottage full of luggage and our 70lb dog. Ohh and the manual says 87 octane fuel is fine.... so thanks, but no need to try again

chill, I was talking by stereotype. I've never even been inside 'vette :(
 

Sust

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Thanks for the responses, everyone.
I'm starting to look at new cars and I wanted to know what was out there that wasn't running on super. It cost me 50 bucks the other day to fill up my nissan maxima with Super.
Granted, I could have put in regular, but it's always done well on super and the book it came with told me to use super so i'm not one to rock the boat. I'm just happy the damn thing works.

So Honda is playing loosey goosey with their adverts, eh? I thought it was too good to be true for their engine to do that kind of output on regular. Oh well, the search continues. All i'm looking for is a ULEV sedan that runs on trash, gets 25 mpg, and does 0-60 in about 5 seconds. Clearly that's just too much to ask :)

Thanks also to the guys suggesting the corvette, but I like sleepers.
I think i'll take a closer look at the Impala which seems to have tied itself with the accord in terms of output on regular.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: Sust
Thanks for the responses, everyone.
I'm starting to look at new cars and I wanted to know what was out there that wasn't running on super. It cost me 50 bucks the other day to fill up my nissan maxima with Super.
Granted, I could have put in regular, but it's always done well on super and the book it came with told me to use super so i'm not one to rock the boat. I'm just happy the damn thing works.

So Honda is playing loosey goosey with their adverts, eh? I thought it was too good to be true for their engine to do that kind of output on regular. Oh well, the search continues. All i'm looking for is a ULEV sedan that runs on trash, gets 25 mpg, and does 0-60 in about 5 seconds. Clearly that's just too much to ask :)

Thanks also to the guys suggesting the corvette, but I like sleepers.
I think i'll take a closer look at the Impala which seems to have tied itself with the accord in terms of output on regular.

What year is your Maxima? I have a 2003 Maxima SE I've owned since it was new. It's a decent car, lots of power, not very green, loads of torque steer and it gets about 19mpg on premium gas. But it is quite comfortable with 4 adults on long rides...and I've beaten more than a few sport coupes and 5 series BMWs with it. :p
 

Jeff7181

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I've spent $55 filling my Altima with regular... all things considered, the price difference is very small. Around here I usually buy gas at $2.95 and I have a 20 gallon tank. If I put 20 gallons in that's $59. If I put 20 gallons of Premium in at $3.05 that's $61. Not much of a difference. If you get 25 mpg with Regular, you're spending about 11.8 cents per mile. If you get 26 mpg with Premium, you're spending about 11.7 cents per mile. So if you can get an extra mile per gallon by using Premium fuel, you'll actually be SAVING money by buying the more expensive fuel.
 

thecritic

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2008 or newer Toyota Camry V6, preferably the SE version for best handling.

Runs on regular fuel, 0-60 in a hair over 6 seconds. All of the transmission problems have been resolved (flare complaints) for the 2008 and later models.

In-town mileage is over 20, easily over 30 on the highway if driven responsibly.
 

thomsbrain

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Originally posted by: Jeff7181
I don't think the Accord's V6 makes 268 HP on 87 octane. That's the minimum you can put in the engine and not cause problems... but I'm fairly certain the 268 HP number comes from using 91 octane.

Nope, all engines offered in the Accord are supposed to run on regular. The 3.0L V6 in my generation makes 240 HP on regular. Not a big stretch for a 3.5L to make 268.

The S2000 and Civic Si do need premium.

This information is taken from Honda's website. If they are upfront about the S2000 and Civic Si requiring "premium" to make their stated power figures, there is no reason they wouldn't also say it for the Accord if that were true.

As Fifth Gear showed in their dyno tests, an engine designed to run optimally on regular fuel will NOT see any power benefit to higher octane fuel. Only engines that "require" higher octane fuel will see any power difference between the grades.

So the speculators can kindly turn their attention to other suggestions.

I'm sure there must be some V8 engines out there that are supposed to run on regular, though, right?
 

StageLeft

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The OP clearly wants a car not that runs on 87, like they all do now, but one that produces the same power at 87 as 91; one that truly "runs on 87". I imagine it's an american car. The hemi V8s seem to have a recommended grade of 89, so that's half-way there, right? :)
 

iamwiz82

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Spending $25,000 on a car and then looking to save 10 cents a gallon makes my eyes cross if I think about it too long.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Spending $25,000 on a car and then looking to save 10 cents a gallon makes my eyes cross if I think about it too long.

No kidding, even if you drive it 20,000 miles annually, saving 10 cents a gallon only works out to $100.