Fastest IDE harddrive?

Kiamo

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What's the fastest (and reliable) IDE harddrive I can get for my friend? Under $300 preferably... around $200 would be better.

Thanks for any help! :)

BTW: He plays games a lot, the system has ATA133, and its really fast... Size doesnt matter so long as its around 25 or over (way over is fine)
 

GooberPHX420

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As far as I recall, with IDE..the fastest you can go is 7200 rpm, am I right? If so, then all of the major competitors are damn close to the same. I personally love the IBM deskstar models. I have a 46gb IBm Deskstar 60gxp and it is damn nice. its quiet and very fast. As for wanting to blow 200 bucks, why not go raid? or just go big ang get twin 60's or something ;)
 

Kiamo

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I mean fastest brand and model... not just fastest RPM speed they make... heh

Maybe not fastest, but really fast... Speed is key here. :)
 

saltedeggman

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WESTERN DIGITAL "SPECIAL EDITION" 100GB 7200RPM EIDE HARD DRIVE MODEL # WD1000JB-SE - OEM, DRIVE ONLY 3.5 inch Form Ultra ATA 100 8.9ms Seek Time 8MB CACHE BUFFER - 3 Year Manufacturer Warranty

245 @ newegg.com
 

Pariah

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Probably the just released WD1200JB, which is the successor to the drive salted mentioned above. I'm assuming that the 120JB improves on the performance of the 100JB, based on the fact the regular 120 performs a decent amount better than the regular 100.
 

ku

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Well, the only hard drive that supports ATA133 is maxtor still... i believe. Correct me if i'm wrong.
 

scoobydooby

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Anyone know what the speed difference should be between ATA100 and 133? I've got one of those maxtors and I'm wondering whether it'll be worth an upgrade to get a ATA133 controller in the future...
Scoob
 

Rand

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<< Probably the just released WD1200JB, which is the successor to the drive salted mentioned above. I'm assuming that the 120JB improves on the performance of the 100JB, based on the fact the regular 120 performs a decent amount better than the regular 100. >>



Precisely.
 

MisterDuck

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Although storagereview.com hasn't reviewed the WD1200JB drive, based upon their reviews of the 100gb drive with the 8 meg cache, there is no doubt in my mind that the 1200JB burns the hell out of anything out there right now.

I would even bet money that it'll take out a fair amount of SCSI drives on the market, to be perfectly honest - and with 120 gb's of storage space on top of that (not that I'd know what to do with that, but....yeah).
 

CZroe

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The problem with Seagate and Maxtor is that you can't tell they suck! Their diagnostic utilities are USELESS. Western Digital and IBM allow you to remap bad sectors to spare sectors and run real hardware dignostics and not some software crap that locks and resets the PC when it encounters an error and has no way to mark it as bad.

BTW, the 120GB WD has 2MB cache while the 100GB special edition one has 8MB so thespecial edition should outperform it by far except for sustained data throughput. with that 8MB cache, it can "sustain" the full-speed 100MBps for 4x as long (Still only a fraction of a second but it really speeds up random writes to the disk)!
 

Rand

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<< The problem with Seagate and Maxtor is that you can't tell they suck! Their diagnostic utilities are USELESS. Western Digital and IBM allow you to remap bad sectors to spare sectors and run real hardware dignostics and not some software crap that locks and resets the PC when it encounters an error and has no way to mark it as bad.

BTW, the 120GB WD has 2MB cache while the 100GB special edition one has 8MB so thespecial edition should outperform it by far except for sustained data throughput. with that 8MB cache, it can "sustain" the full-speed 100MBps for 4x as long (Still only a fraction of a second but it really speeds up random writes to the disk)!
>>



There is a "Special Edition" of the 120GB version now, with the 8MB cache that made the original 100GB "Special Edition" so impressive.
 

dsparks

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Never had a problem out of ANY of my IBM deskstar HDD's.

I am ready for a bigger drive myself!
 

Bovinicus

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<< Where does one go for hard drive reviews since Storagereview.com went belly up? >>

That sucks! StorageReview provided some of the most comprehensize review for harddrives I have ever seen. That pisses me off. =(
 

CQuinn

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http://www.storagereview.com

Its still there till the end of the month at least.
And there are discussions going in the forums there to see if some parts can be continued
in another way or as another site.

You guys seem pretty upset about a site you don't even visit enough to tell whether it
is still around...

MisterDuck, the only SCSI drives in mass-production right now are the 10000 and 15000rpm varieties.
Even with the gains in tranfer rate from its higher density, the WD1200JB will only start to keep up with
those drives.

Also, while the WD holds the lead in transfer rate for IDE, I believe the Maxtor D740X wins out for access time.

 

scoobydooby

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yo strawberrymom,
that's a silly thing to say. You have to at least back up your statement with someone. Just saying something sucks is of no help to anyone here.
Scoob
 

John

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scoobydooby, she/he/it has been saying that exact phrase in several threads lately.
 

Strawberrymom

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well lets se in the amount of westerndigitals ive sent back they have refused to warranty them. they always bead sectored. i have maxtors and the 3 ata 100's i am using now jsut rock. if i could id have gotten the barracuda 4's but they didnt have what i needed.

they are stable as all out

and the going statements out there are WD = Whens it gonna Die?
 

Pariah

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If there is one thing you can't trash about WD, it's their RMA policy. There isn't a better one in the business. You can create your own RMA online in a few minutes, without ever having to wait on the phone to talk to someone. If you do want to talk to someone, they don't drill you on what is wrong with the drive, they will take back practically anything and crosship the replacement if you have a valid credit card. Every company may mishandle an RMA case from time to time, but I have an extremely hard time believing you've had multiple rejections from WD. Even if the drive works fine, they won't reject it, they probably use them for other warranty replacements.

Just to add, Maxtor's policy is basically the same thing. A lot of companies can learn from these 2 when it comes to replacing defective hardware.
 

conlan

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As far as the ATA-100 vs. ATA 133 posted earlier in this thread, last i researched (it's been awhile, i admit) the full potential of ATA-100 had yet to be reached, let alone ATA-133. Has that changed in the last 3 or 4 months?
 

jeffrey

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"As far as the ATA-100 vs. ATA 133 posted earlier in this thread, last i researched (it's been awhile, i admit) the full potential of ATA-100 had yet to be reached, let alone ATA-133. Has that changed in the last 3 or 4 months?"

The new maxtor's and Western Digital's with 40gig platters and 7200 spindle speeds can burst over the limit of ATA-100. So ATA-133 can help if you have two of the new drives in RAID 0.
 

conlan

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<< The new maxtor's and Western Digital's with 40gig platters and 7200 spindle speeds can burst over the limit of ATA-100. So ATA-133 can help if you have two of the new drives in RAID 0. >>


thanx for the update, things happen fast in 'puter land :)
 

gnef

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the upgrade to ata133 was more for capacity than speed. The new standard allows for drives larger than 137 GB (IIRC) to be formatted and utilized by the operating system, i believe. From what i have read, most people wouldn't notice the difference between ata66 and ata100 let alone ata100 and ata133.

-Mel