Fashion Mistakes - Suits

[_Rick_]

Completely useless tips, as dressing up for business is the most depressing thing to do.

If there were some party dress tips, those I could appreciate, but I can't bear that preppy faux-lux look that pervades the ranks of consultants and used car salesmen.

Also, ties. Seriously? I think they are the most ridiculous garment ever invented (and at any occasion, a real man will wear a bow tie, because a tie is just disgusting) and luckily they appear to be on their way out in straight thinking businesses. A man with a tie is untrustworthy, because he wants to take all your moneys!


Also, legs and butts are generally bad, if you are in the market for pants.
Either you look like a boxer, that wears a suit only for the press conference, because the legs are too tight; or you might as well go naked, because everyone can see your penis, as the cloth stretches around your lower waist.
Not that this is a disadvantage in the right company, but it can be misconstrued by some individuals and requires self-confidence to pull off smoothly.

Also, no word on hats in this article. Completely useless! No word on adornments!
It merely covers the basics of that depressing business uniform look. Modern man's blue overall.

/end rant.

 

[Howard]

Completely useless tips, as dressing up for business is the most depressing thing to do.

If there were some party dress tips, those I could appreciate, but I can't bear that preppy faux-lux look that pervades the ranks of consultants and used car salesmen.

Also, ties. Seriously? I think they are the most ridiculous garment ever invented (and at any occasion, a real man will wear a bow tie, because a tie is just disgusting) and luckily they appear to be on their way out in straight thinking businesses. A man with a tie is untrustworthy, because he wants to take all your moneys!


Also, legs and butts are generally bad, if you are in the market for pants.
Either you look like a boxer, that wears a suit only for the press conference, because the legs are too tight; or you might as well go naked, because everyone can see your penis, as the cloth stretches around your lower waist.
Not that this is a disadvantage in the right company, but it can be misconstrued by some individuals and requires self-confidence to pull off smoothly.

Also, no word on hats in this article. Completely useless! No word on adornments!
It merely covers the basics of that depressing business uniform look. Modern man's blue overall.

/end rant.

tldr

 

[TwiceOver]

For the bottom button rule, I was always taught "Always, sometimes, never" referring to top, middle, bottom respectively. Some decent pointers in there. Being in IT I'm the completely casual guy (today jeans, t-shirt, white socks). But I really like dressing nicely from time to time.

Freaks out my boss when I come in Suited Up. "Hey, you have an interview somewhere or something????"

 

[slayer202]

I saw a guy in khakis, a blue blazer (with brass buttons!) and sneakers today, and he strangely didn't look out of place. Hilariously fitting.

Sneakers aside, the khakis/blazer combo is my most hated look ever...

For the bottom button rule, I was always taught "Always, sometimes, never" referring to top, middle, bottom respectively.

While most 3-button suits should probably be on the sideline right now, you'd button the middle one

 

[LegendKiller]

you guys are stuck in the 90s, man. pleats are out of style. the only reason they're still around are for older guys who are set in their fashion ways.

Pleats didn't come from the 1990s, they have been around for more than 100 years. Personally, I'd rather not have my pants crowding my crotch.

 

[yllus]

I've abused button down collar shirts by unbuttoning the collar and wearing a cotton tie with it. I'm going for a slightly sloppy casual look there though, so I think it works.

(2) Socks should match your slacks, not your shoes (i.e. if you're wearing a blue suit with brown shoes you should be wearing dark blue socks, not dark brown ones).

Heck, I didn't know that. Will make the adjustment, thanks!

 

[Howard]

For the bottom button rule, I was always taught "Always, sometimes, never" referring to top, middle, bottom respectively. Some decent pointers in there. Being in IT I'm the completely casual guy (today jeans, t-shirt, white socks). But I really like dressing nicely from time to time.

Freaks out my boss when I come in Suited Up. "Hey, you have an interview somewhere or something????"

Sometimes, always, never. Not what you wrote.

 

[vshah]

it depends on the corporation and the industry not the group. at deutschebank and lehman brothers even IT people wore suits which is obviously nutty.

what? I worked in IT at DB for 2.5 years and never once saw an IT guy wearing a suit. dark slacks/shirts/ties yes, but never a jacket.

IT Management 3 levels above me, yes. But not my level, my boss, or his manager.

 

[yllus]

Also, ties. Seriously? I think they are the most ridiculous garment ever invented (and at any occasion, a real man will wear a bow tie, because a tie is just disgusting) and luckily they appear to be on their way out in straight thinking businesses. A man with a tie is untrustworthy, because he wants to take all your moneys!

Ties are amazing and fun. I regularly get compliments on my ties, both in the office place and at social events. Most recently I was complimented on wearing a pure white button down collar shirt plus this tie:

That's a knitted silk tie from The Tie Bar and costs all of $15.00. Killer spring/summer tie.

 

[slayer202]

And while you probably shouldn't match your socks with your shoes, you don't have to match them with your pants...unless you are being anally conservative

 

[eits]

Pleats didn't come from the 1990s, they have been around for more than 100 years. Personally, I'd rather not have my pants crowding my crotch.

i didn't say they came from the 90s. i'm saying that they were fashionable in the 90s. now, they aren't.

 

[Zenmervolt]

you guys are stuck in the 90s, man. pleats are out of style. the only reason they're still around are for older guys who are set in their fashion ways.

That's what people said about normal slacks back when bell bottoms were in fashion too. In 20 years pleats will still be around and flat front pants will be remembered as what hipsters thought suits should look like. The slacks worn with a suit are not the same as a pair of khaki chinos; properly tailored wool slacks from a suit will have narrower legs and none of the billowing hips problem that you see with cheap off-the-rack pleated chinos. Badly tailored pleats look bad, yes, but properly tailored pleats have a class and style that flat front slacks simply do not. The only thing in favor of flat front slacks is that they allow sloppy tailoring to still look half-decent.

Given the choice, I'm going to err towards something Bogart or Carey Grant would wear, not towards something a pseudo-trendy random internet guy would wear.

Ties are amazing and fun. I regularly get compliments on my ties, both in the office place and at social events. Most recently I was complimented on wearing a pure white button down collar shirt plus this tie:

That's a knitted silk tie from The Tie Bar and costs all of $15.00. Killer spring/summer tie.

I quite agree. Ties are a great way to inject personality into a suit. A well-chosen tie is the perfect way to introduce individuality into an otherwise fairly standardized style.

ZV

 

[TwiceOver]

Sometimes, always, never. Not what you wrote.

Sorry, yeah. Somehow I reversed that.

 

[Farang]

I agree with everything except the rubber soled shoes. I walk a mile to work, a lot of times on wet pavement, and yea I could walk in tennis shoes and change at work but give me a break. Either I do that or wear out the soles in a matter of months. Anyway who spends enough time to notice needs to find a hobby.

I also don't put much thought into tie knots, but then again I rarely wear a tie.

 

[Exterous]

that makes me glad I am in IT.

jeans and tennis shoes ftw.

While not that casual I very much enjoy not having to wear suits and ties (or eve long sleeved dress shirts) at work. Not that it would make sense to be running new CAT 6 in a suit and tie anyway...

Living in MN and working in Minneapolis and Chicago, rubber is a must.

Yeah - I have a pair of leather soled shoes in the closet that I never really wear anymore. Sure some of it is that the occasions I would need them are few and far between but mostly because those occasions tend to happen in the winter

Ties are amazing and fun. I regularly get compliments on my ties, both in the office place and at social events. Most recently I was complimented on wearing a pure white button down collar shirt plus this tie.

Completely agree. Old standbye/traditional ties seem to be overly common place, esp among interviewees for an IT job making a bolder/more personalized tie is a great way to add personality and set yourself apart. I've gotten complimented at least once on my tie choices at the last two companies I've interviewed at

Of course I don't wear them often enough to be comfortable in them so its always a relief to take them off 😛

 

[LegendKiller]

i didn't say they came from the 90s. i'm saying that they were fashionable in the 90s. now, they aren't.

dude, they have been "fashionable" for over 100 years, it's only the last ~5 years that eurotrash suits have become the trendy thing. As somebody keeps pointing out and you conveniently ignore, the "trendy" guys 60+ years ago were wearing pleats and you can find examples of them before, and after, that, not just the 90s. Unpleated pants are a trend that comes and goes.

 

[slayer202]

That's what people said about normal slacks back when bell bottoms were in fashion too. In 20 years pleats will still be around and flat front pants will be remembered as what hipsters thought suits should look like. The slacks worn with a suit are not the same as a pair of khaki chinos; properly tailored wool slacks from a suit will have narrower legs and none of the billowing hips problem that you see with cheap off-the-rack pleated chinos. Badly tailored pleats look bad, yes, but properly tailored pleats have a class and style that flat front slacks simply do not. The only thing in favor of flat front slacks is that they allow sloppy tailoring to still look half-decent.

Given the choice, I'm going to err towards something Bogart or Carey Grant would wear, not towards something a pseudo-trendy random internet guy would wear.

I quite agree. Ties are a great way to inject personality into a suit. A well-chosen tie is the perfect way to introduce individuality into an otherwise fairly standardized style.

ZV

Keep dressing like guys in the 60's and we'll keep on laughing. Just because they were stylish doesn't mean it would look good now. Pleats and cuffs can look pretty horrible. The only way they are saved is modern cuts, cuts they didn't wear back then. Flat front is not a trend

 

[BoberFett]

Keep dressing like guys in the 60's and we'll keep on laughing. Just because they were stylish doesn't mean it would look good now. Pleats and cuffs can look pretty horrible. The only way they are saved is modern cuts, cuts they didn't wear back then. Flat front is not a trend

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Flat front, cuffless pants make guys look like little boys, IMO. They're in the same category as skinny jeans.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Flat front is not a trend

I disagree. For suits with proper slacks, it'll be dead in 20 years.

ZV

 

[Howard]

I disagree. For suits with proper slacks, it'll be dead in 20 years.

ZV

I'd like to put money on that.

 

[Dr. Detroit]

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Flat front, cuffless pants make guys look like little boys, IMO. They're in the same category as skinny jeans.

Pretty much how I feel - although I will wear flat-fronts as a casual look without a jacket or tie - usually with a sweater.

If you are wearing rubber soled shoes in a suit I think you look like a salesman who is on their feet all day hustling.

 

[Aikouka]

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Flat front, cuffless pants make guys look like little boys, IMO. They're in the same category as skinny jeans.

Hm, I don't think I ever noticed, but I think that's what I'm wearing. Although, I'm only in a business casual attire, and not in a full-blown suit. I just like these pants because they're lightweight and rather comfy.

 

[eits]

dude, they have been "fashionable" for over 100 years, it's only the last ~5 years that eurotrash suits have become the trendy thing. As somebody keeps pointing out and you conveniently ignore, the "trendy" guys 60+ years ago were wearing pleats and you can find examples of them before, and after, that, not just the 90s. Unpleated pants are a trend that comes and goes.

and, now, they're not. maybe a bit in the future, they will be. who knows? but, for now, flat fronts are in and pleats are out.

 

[eits]

I disagree. For suits with proper slacks, it'll be dead in 20 years.

ZV

that's like saying double-breasted suits will be back in 20 years.

 

[eits]

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Flat front, cuffless pants make guys look like little boys, IMO. They're in the same category as skinny jeans.

lol where the hell do you shop?