Farewell Ron Paul

rpanic · Feb 6, 2008

This morning my wife and I took off our Ron Paul bumper stickers. He said he wasn?t going to run as an independent so there is no reason to keep going.

I don?t think most people could handle the bitter pills of truth that he wanted everyone to swallow; most in this country want something and thinks it comes from nothing. He was the only candidate that did not pander for votes and I think he is the only one that believed in what he was saying. At least he brought up a lot of things that were missing from the other candidates and I thank him for that.

There is no conservative party it is dead, what a shame. I hope whoever wins doesn?t make things worse.

Pabster · Feb 6, 2008

Originally posted by: rpanic
There is no conservative party it is dead, what a shame. I hope whoever wins doesn?t make things worse.

No, but there are still Conservatives. And a lot of them.

bamacre · Feb 6, 2008

Hey, people are happy that Paul isn't winning. They like Hillary and McCain.

Whoozyerdaddy · Feb 6, 2008

YARP... Oh wait.

YES! :beer:

zig3695 · Feb 6, 2008

mcain and that other fuckhead were battling it out...

and besides! who cares if ron paul isnt running? you can ALWAYS write him in. every vote counts!

glugglug · Feb 6, 2008

You shouldn't have removed the bumper stickers.
RP is still running. He never said he wouldn't run as an independent, he just said he had "no intention to". (He intended to win the Republican nomination instead). When (not if) he runs as an independent, he stands a better chance than you think:

a) He's more popular among Democrats than Republicans (why the h311 is he running as a Republican?!)
b) If the other choices are McCain & Billary, he could actually win.

ProfJohn · Feb 6, 2008

Originally posted by: glugglug
You shouldn't have removed the bumper stickers.
RP is still running. He never said he wouldn't run as an independent, he just said he had "no intention to". (He intended to win the Republican nomination instead). When (not if) he runs as an independent, he stands a better chance than you think:

a) He's more popular among Democrats than Republicans (why the h311 is he running as a Republican?!)
b) If the other choices are McCain & Billary, he could actually win.

Are you on drugs????

Pabster · Feb 6, 2008

He won't win, glugglug. Even if Paul runs as Perot 2008, he won't be able to defeat the establishment.

Now he sure would take some votes, no doubt about that. Just nowhere near enough.

I don't see him doing the Independent route.

Whoozyerdaddy · Feb 6, 2008

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: glugglug
You shouldn't have removed the bumper stickers.
RP is still running. He never said he wouldn't run as an independent, he just said he had "no intention to". (He intended to win the Republican nomination instead). When (not if) he runs as an independent, he stands a better chance than you think:

a) He's more popular among Democrats than Republicans (why the h311 is he running as a Republican?!)
b) If the other choices are McCain & Billary, he could actually win.

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Are you on drugs????

"If you destroy me I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine"

For a brief moment I actually thought this would be the end of the RPTs... How foolish of me.

Skitzer · Feb 6, 2008

Originally posted by: glugglug
You shouldn't have removed the bumper stickers.
RP is still running. He never said he wouldn't run as an independent, he just said he had "no intention to". (He intended to win the Republican nomination instead). When (not if) he runs as an independent, he stands a better chance than you think:

a) He's more popular among Democrats than Republicans (why the h311 is he running as a Republican?!)
b) If the other choices are McCain & Billary, he could actually win.

You are delusional

CitizenKain · Feb 6, 2008

Originally posted by: glugglug
You shouldn't have removed the bumper stickers.
RP is still running. He never said he wouldn't run as an independent, he just said he had "no intention to". (He intended to win the Republican nomination instead). When (not if) he runs as an independent, he stands a better chance than you think:

a) He's more popular among Democrats than Republicans (why the h311 is he running as a Republican?!)
b) If the other choices are McCain & Billary, he could actually win.

Yes, that magic 3% will rise up and do nothing. He probably really thanks you guys for funding his next run at the House.

ranmaniac · Feb 6, 2008

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: rpanic
There is no conservative party it is dead, what a shame. I hope whoever wins doesn?t make things worse.

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No, but there are still Conservatives. And a lot of them.

There are, but none of them are likely to be elected for another 8 years.

daveymark · Feb 6, 2008

finally, a ron paul thread worth reading

Duddy · Feb 6, 2008

Originally posted by: bamacre
Hey, people are happy that Paul isn't winning. They like Hillary and McCain.

They (McCain supporters) also liked Bush.

nageov3t · Feb 6, 2008

Originally posted by: Duddy

Originally posted by: bamacre
Hey, people are happy that Paul isn't winning. They like Hillary and McCain.

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They (McCain supporters) also liked Bush.

Republicans who don't like Bush also seem to be going for McCain, though.

Lemon law · Feb 6, 2008

For what its worth, I visited the Ron Paul official website about a hour or so ago. Not a word about Super Tuesday. So how can any of us tell what Ron Paul is thinking? Very inscrutable them Texans.

BoomerD · Feb 6, 2008

Originally posted by: glugglug
You shouldn't have removed the bumper stickers.
RP is still running. He never said he wouldn't run as an independent, he just said he had "no intention to". (He intended to win the Republican nomination instead). When (not if) he runs as an independent, he stands a better chance than you think:

a) He's more popular among Democrats than Republicans (why the h311 is he running as a Republican?!)
b) If the other choices are McCain & Billary, he could actually win.

The Kool-aid is strong with this one...

As I've said all along, RP has some good ideas but he's unelectable in our current political machine. He's too far out of the mainstream for the majority of people to take seriously.
The way many RP supporters act tends to drive away many people who might have been interested, but don't want to be associated with "that bunch of whacko's...even though the "whacko's might not represent the majority of RP supporters, they are the ones people tend to remember and associate with RP.

dullard · Feb 6, 2008

Originally posted by: glugglug
When (not if) he runs as an independent, he stands a better chance than you think:

He would get ~5% of the Republican vote. But since only half are republicans, that is actually only 2.5% of the total population. He'd also pick up a few people who voted Democrat in the primaries. For the most part though, he got all the people he can get. Think about it, if you are a RP supporter, would you vote for another candidate in the primaries? Of course not, he needed all the help he could get. In fact, there are probably almost NO Paul supporters who voted/will vote in the primaries for someone else. He simply won't gain much more support.

I will, however, bump that up to 3% of the total population in case a few more people do come in. He'll be right in the same place as the other 3rd party candidates: a few percent which isn't much but it might just swing a state or two from R to D.

Guess what, he already DID run as independent for president. He got the same small percentage of the vote in the 1980s when he ran.

Nothing can change and nothing will change this time around.

brxndxn · Feb 6, 2008

Originally posted by: rpanic
This morning my wife and I took off our Ron Paul bumper stickers. He said he wasn?t going to run as an independent so there is no reason to keep going.

I don?t think most people could handle the bitter pills of truth that he wanted everyone to swallow; most in this country want something and thinks it comes from nothing. He was the only candidate that did not pander for votes and I think he is the only one that believed in what he was saying. At least he brought up a lot of things that were missing from the other candidates and I thank him for that.

There is no conservative party it is dead, what a shame. I hope whoever wins doesn?t make things worse.

We're in for a brokered convention.. That means that when the delegates finally arrive to the Republican convention, they will have to listen to every single candidate for equal time. Many very well may be swayed toward Ron Paul.

So, why remove the bumper stickers? Keep them on.. The media wants you to give up easily; don't be so easy.

DasFox · Feb 6, 2008

I don't get why Ron Paul ran as a Republican, his views seem to be more Democratic, at least in his speech to the people of what he is expressing is more of a Democrat view of, 'For the People'

Lemon law · Feb 6, 2008

Hey, if I get sufficiently disgusted with my Presidential choices I can write in vote for Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, or Goofey. As it is I am damn close to totally disgusted as it is.

Why not do it the classy way and vote Ron Paul?

bamacre · Feb 6, 2008

Originally posted by: DasFox
I don't get why Ron Paul ran as a Republican, his views seem to be more Democratic, at least in his speech to the people of what he is expressing is more of a Democrat view of, 'For the People'

Sinsear · Feb 6, 2008

Originally posted by: brxndxn

Originally posted by: rpanic
This morning my wife and I took off our Ron Paul bumper stickers. He said he wasn?t going to run as an independent so there is no reason to keep going.

I don?t think most people could handle the bitter pills of truth that he wanted everyone to swallow; most in this country want something and thinks it comes from nothing. He was the only candidate that did not pander for votes and I think he is the only one that believed in what he was saying. At least he brought up a lot of things that were missing from the other candidates and I thank him for that.

There is no conservative party it is dead, what a shame. I hope whoever wins doesn?t make things worse.

Click to expand...

We're in for a brokered convention.. That means that when the delegates finally arrive to the Republican convention, they will have to listen to every single candidate for equal time. Many very well may be swayed toward Ron Paul.

So, why remove the bumper stickers? Keep them on.. The media wants you to give up easily; don't be so easy.

Lol; I can't believe you guys still buy into this. Enough already; admit defeat and move on. Ron Paul is not swaying any delegates at any convention.

Lemon law · Feb 6, 2008

Originally posted by: DasFox
I don't get why Ron Paul ran as a Republican, his views seem to be more Democratic, at least in his speech to the people of what he is expressing is more of a Democrat view of, 'For the People'

DasFox, thats totally absurd, Ron Paul is a classic small government type and dems are for big government solving problems.

Of course the modern Reagan Republican outspends the dems while pretending to be fiscally responsible. Perhaps thats the root of your delusion.

jhbball · Feb 6, 2008

Originally posted by: DasFox
I don't get why Ron Paul ran as a Republican, his views seem to be more Democratic, at least in his speech to the people of what he is expressing is more of a Democrat view of, 'For the People'

What? Haha.

Farewell Ron Paul

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