FarCry 1.2 patch - up to 33% improvement for NV40 (w/benchmarks)
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StrangerGuy
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It seems that the tables have been turned. Some time ago even the X800 Pro is faster than the 6800U in Far Cry IIRC.
My patience has paid off. My BFG with water block, stock 470MHz arrives tomorrow. Just in time...Format and tune. Then comes DX9c and FarCry 1.2 patch......I'm walking on the ceiling. 
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)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))Well, just to keep things in perspective (a couple thoughts):
1. IQ is the same between the two, so I wouldn't say that it has been improved at all.
2. Those are average framerates, and it would have been nice to see what the minimums were, since they are usually what you notice the most. It seems like on some other sites the Nvidia cards have better max framerates, but worse min framerates (although maybe not perceptibly so), so their averages can be higher even though from a playability standpoint the two cards could be similar.
Really though, that's my only gripe with the AT article, and it does seem like NV has really started to get their drivers working well with these cards. That 6800GT is looking like a great card.
-D'oh!
1. IQ is the same between the two, so I wouldn't say that it has been improved at all.
2. Those are average framerates, and it would have been nice to see what the minimums were, since they are usually what you notice the most. It seems like on some other sites the Nvidia cards have better max framerates, but worse min framerates (although maybe not perceptibly so), so their averages can be higher even though from a playability standpoint the two cards could be similar.
Really though, that's my only gripe with the AT article, and it does seem like NV has really started to get their drivers working well with these cards. That 6800GT is looking like a great card.
-D'oh!
That's great and all but where are all the promised visual improvements? I guess it's nice for those that haven't played far cry before but I was looking forward to playing the game again with the visual enhancements promised in the crytek demo at some show that I saw. So basically, nVidia is saying that SM3.0 allows their cards to have miniscule visual improvements at best and now performance won't trail ATI (even with brilinear) in some games? Great, but then why all the cock and bull stories about the visual improvements?
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looks good, but i have couldn't help but wonder about the crediblity of the anandtech article when i found that they made no mention of the rendering issues with nvidia cards and the 1.1 patch. i am hopeing that the issues have been resovled with the 1.2 patch, but considering the issues have never been mentioned on anandtech it does leave me wondering.
BFG10K
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I'm not concerned to be honest. Far Cry really needs more performance and SM 3.0 does deliver.
If you look at the benchmarks you'll see nVidia is usually at the top. Even the GT can edge the X800 XT sometimes when SM 3.0 is used.
I'd expect so, especially with the new SM 3.0 path.
It didn't need any more performance with the X800 pro I was using, but then again I use a 17" WS LCD, so 1600x1200 is pointless for me. What's the point then of incorporating SM3.0 into all the already released games? To speed up performance? fanfreakingtastic. I'm gonna wait months to finish Painkiller just so it runs a little faster? Please, SM3.0 is a non-feature if this is all there is. They might as well have said that their cards are faster with the 1.2 patch and left it at that, no need to go trumpeting SM3.0 when it does nothing but allow the card to render faster.
I'd like nvidia to explain to me WHAT THE F HAPPENED TO THIS?:
http://www.materiel.be/news/12004/FC-PS3.0.jpg
What did you think SM3 would be? Free performance gain = potential higher settings/resolution so therefore better IQ.
Good point. No doubt, the performance gains are most excellent but......what did happen to the eye candy that we had seen in screenies?
When it's on games I've already played I could give a crap. Wow, if I play through farcry again it'll be SOOOOOO much faster :roll: Please, what a waste of hype. So far SM3.0 is a whole lot of nothing more than a speed boost. If they don't get some VDR and HDR into FarCry then patching was pointless for the majority of gamers who have already played FarCry. Usage of SM3.0 to boost performance in future games is fine but then who cares about SM3.0 if it looks exactly like SM2.0; we can observe the performance improvement without nvidia having to hype it as a feature.
I thought it would be THIS since nvidia SAID IT WOULD BE THIS:
http://www.materiel.be/news/12004/FC-PS3.0.jpg
Well it does look like shots from NVIDIA 6800 launch party where Far cry was shown with much more detail in rocks and in Budda were just marketing bull after all and not SM3.
I just don't see any difference in IQ between 2.0 and 3.0.
At launch everybody was implying that we will get a huge IQ boost and they even had a Far cry with "this SM3 patch" running on several demo machines.
It did look suspicious - since framerate seemed very low.
All of it just goes to show how dirty GPU wars have become.
I just don't see any difference in IQ between 2.0 and 3.0.
At launch everybody was implying that we will get a huge IQ boost and they even had a Far cry with "this SM3 patch" running on several demo machines.
It did look suspicious - since framerate seemed very low.
All of it just goes to show how dirty GPU wars have become.
After reading the AT article, i walk away impressed by not blown away. In most benchmarks, the SM3 improves the performance of nv cards by like 3-5 fps. By in some benchmarks, like volcano, we see gains of about 10 fps for each card!! Nvidia is finally showing us the true quality of their cards by producing better drivers that push their cards to the max.
IQ however was a let down. I saw no increase in IQ when jumping from sm2 to sm3. What ever happened to the big hoop-ala about improved lighting and more realistic shadows and lights and stuff with the SM3 patch? This was the only disapointing part about sm3. Otherwise, im destined to be a nvidia 6800 customer.
IQ however was a let down. I saw no increase in IQ when jumping from sm2 to sm3. What ever happened to the big hoop-ala about improved lighting and more realistic shadows and lights and stuff with the SM3 patch? This was the only disapointing part about sm3. Otherwise, im destined to be a nvidia 6800 customer.
Supposedly, after going through NvNews forum the VDR and HDR will come later in a patch. When? Who knows! True? Who knows!
Originally posted by: Leon
Update: Anandtech own analysis is on the main page
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And better IQ to boot. No word yet for HDR/offset mapping, which I believe will be out as seperate mod.
better IQ? that's completely false.. sm3 doesn't provide any IQ improvments over sm2.
overall, it seems it's a bit of a mixed bag. ati has the performance edge with no aa/af. in the most important settings (imo) - with aa/af, nvidia outperforms ati. kinda funny.. used to be the other way around (nvidia took the bigger hit with aa/af), lol..
otoh, sm3 doesn't really appear to offer a significant gain in performance except under very specific conditions; the most recent fw drivers had a greater impact in overall performance.
while the ati is no slouch, at least at this point it takes a back seat in far cry performance, where previously ati had the upper hand. add to that the possibility of SLI options at a later date, & it definately looks like nvidia has the upper hand in this generation hardware. will be interesting to see if ati can provide the additional performance thier engineers spoke of in their later driver sets...
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