Far left tolerance strikes again

[her209]

Far leftists duke it out at Oklahoma GOP State Convention
http://www.news-star.com/news/x1367608685/Oklahoma-Republican-state-convention-turns-raucous

 

[Rainsford]

Boo hoo, some neo-nazi skinheads got their asses beat. I'm not going to cry about it.

If you want to run around spewing hateful and ignorant shit, don't be shocked when get your skull cracked.

Freedom of speech is an an important principal, but so is being accountable for your words.

You can't go around attacking people just because they're idiots. First of all, that would take up too much time. And secondly, who decides? That's why we've got a first amendment, after all.

Making sure idiot nazis can say what they want is how we make sure civil rights protestors can say what THEY want. As long as people are just talking, let 'em talk.

 

[CallMeJoe]

You can't go around attacking people just because they're idiots. First of all, that would take up too much time. And secondly, who decides? That's why we've got a first amendment, after all.
Making sure idiot nazis can say what they want is how we make sure civil rights protestors can say what THEY want. As long as people are just talking, let 'em talk.

Letting the idiots talk is the way we expose the true depths of their idiocy.

 

[xj0hnx]

If it were teh evil mooslims in the streets saying whites should be put to the sword I wonder how consistent your view would be.

Kicking ass on nazis is a old American tradition, boo hoo righties.

By the way, your "tolerance" meme is bullshit once again, we keep telling you that.

You aren't telling anyone shit, well, you might be trying but no one is listening to you. If you meet their views with violence you are exactly the same as them.

 

[Rainsford]

Letting the idiots talk is the way we expose the true depths of their idiocy.

Heh, that too.

 

[Jhhnn]

While the "anti-facism" attackers were definitely morons, I don't see where the glaring hypocrisy comes in. They weren't preaching tolerance or understanding either. Their goal was apparently to go after racist groups with violence, which they apparently did. They don't automatically hold all liberal viewpoints just because that's what you called them

Well, yeh, but in Right-Speak, pointing out a strawman argument is a strawman, so there. Neener-neener.

 

[Bitek]

Were they "spewing hateful and ignorant shit"? Or were they sitting around having lunch?

They don't have a website, blog, fb page or posts that are freely accessed, and renounced their hatred before they had thier lunchbreak?

So what are the official statute of limitations of shit talking?
"Yes I wrote your sister was a whore, but that was all the way yesterday. Y U mad bro?"

 

[feralkid]

Were they "spewing hateful and ignorant shit"? Or were they sitting around having lunch?

They probably stopped spewing hateful shit while they sat down to enjoy their cucumber canapes and chilled lychee salad.

 

[Bitek]

You can't go around attacking people just because they're idiots. First of all, that would take up too much time. And secondly, who decides? That's why we've got a first amendment, after all.

Making sure idiot nazis can say what they want is how we make sure civil rights protestors can say what THEY want. As long as people are just talking, let 'em talk.

It's not an acceptable legal defense if they get caught, but dont ask me to feel bad for.the poor little Nazis either.

Forget even violence. If some creep came up to a guy's wife and said how hot she was, and.how.he'd like to cream a face like that, he's looking for a well deserved ass kicking.

Are you telling me you'd respond, "well sir, I don't agree with your.sentiment, but I applaud your exercise of your 1st amendment rights. Well done patriot."

Id file this under: What not to do if you don't want a beating.

 

[werepossum]

You can't go around attacking people just because they're idiots. First of all, that would take up too much time. And secondly, who decides? That's why we've got a first amendment, after all.

Making sure idiot nazis can say what they want is how we make sure civil rights protestors can say what THEY want. As long as people are just talking, let 'em talk.

I agree - but it would be awfully tempting to let them finish beating the skinheads before arresting them.

 

[xj0hnx]

They don't have a website, blog, fb page or posts that are freely accessed, and renounced their hatred before they had thier lunchbreak?

So what are the official statute of limitations of shit talking?
"Yes I wrote your sister was a whore, but that was all the way yesterday. Y U mad bro?"

So what? Do you like being able to exercise your freedom of speech? Just because their beliefs are vile does not give anyone the right to violently attack them.

They probably stopped spewing hateful shit while they sat down to enjoy their cucumber canapes and chilled lychee salad.

Most likely.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

While the "anti-facism" attackers were definitely morons, I don't see where the glaring hypocrisy comes in. They weren't preaching tolerance or understanding either. Their goal was apparently to go after racist groups with violence, which they apparently did. They don't automatically hold all liberal viewpoints just because that's what you called them

No, clearly the anti-fascists represent all liberals, in much the same way that the white nationalists represent all conservatives. I'm pretty sure that's the point the OP is making; conservatives are Nazis.

Am I doing it right?

 

[LunarRay]

They don't have a website, blog, fb page or posts that are freely accessed, and renounced their hatred before they had thier lunchbreak?

So what are the official statute of limitations of shit talking?
"Yes I wrote your sister was a whore, but that was all the way yesterday. Y U mad bro?"

Libel or slander has a limitation of 1yr from my memory. It is a civil issue and not criminal. 'Bro' does not have standing so it is not his issue. Your defense might be proof that 'Sis' is, in fact, a whore'... 'Mad' is not an issue or evidence of anything but an emotion stimulated by the writing you made. You can say lots of stuff but you can't defame... or write the truth on the bridge overpass.

 

[BoberFett]

You have become what you hate most.

Extremists almost always do. The far right and left, while claiming different rationale, are nearly indistinguishable in action.

 

[BoberFett]

I don't know, he might have a point. Unless "anti-facism" has become a lefty only principle...

According to a large part of this forum, anybody to the right of the Democrats ARE fasicsts...

 

[BoberFett]

No, clearly the anti-fascists represent all liberals, in much the same way that the white nationalists represent all conservatives. I'm pretty sure that's the point the OP is making; conservatives are Nazis.

Am I doing it right?

Actually, that's frequently the contention around here, that all conservatives are in fact Nazis.

 

[LunarRay]

Actually, that's frequently the contention around here, that all conservatives are in fact Nazis.

Both sides seem to wish for and work toward a single party state. Totalitarianism seems to be what folks strive for in the aquarium I'm looking into.

Both sides, it seems, rejects all manner of the 'usetobe' Right and Left and Socialism... Each has this new brand of ideology... God's way and the Highway...

I don't like the position the Right has moved to nor what the Left seems to favor... Guess that is a feature of more than one party though.

 

[BoberFett]

Both sides seem to wish for and work toward a single party state. Totalitarianism seems to be what folks strive for in the aquarium I'm looking into.

Both sides, it seems, rejects all manner of the 'usetobe' Right and Left and Socialism... Each has this new brand of ideology... God's way and the Highway...

I don't like the position the Right has moved to nor what the Left seems to favor... Guess that is a feature of more than one party though.

It must just be a sad part of the human condition. Desire for control, sincerely believing that you'll be the one in control.

 

[Moonbeam]

It must just be a sad part of the human condition. Desire for control, sincerely believing that you'll be the one in control.

Desire for control is just having been controlled as a child manifesting in a reaction against controls or a desire to master them. Control issues dissipate when fear does. Barring that you get authoritarians or revolutionaries instead of love.

 

[Blintok]

because only white people are racists?

around here i see many wearing hats and shirts emblazoned with "Native Pride" and they are not racist. But do same with "white pride" and you get attacked with hammers by "anti-racists"

 

[Rainsford]

It's not an acceptable legal defense if they get caught, but dont ask me to feel bad for.the poor little Nazis either.

Forget even violence. If some creep came up to a guy's wife and said how hot she was, and.how.he'd like to cream a face like that, he's looking for a well deserved ass kicking.

Are you telling me you'd respond, "well sir, I don't agree with your.sentiment, but I applaud your exercise of your 1st amendment rights. Well done patriot."

Id file this under: What not to do if you don't want a beating.

Yeah, I'm definitely talking general principle here. There are definitely situations where I probably wouldn't live up to my own principles

 

[Rainsford]

No, clearly the anti-fascists represent all liberals, in much the same way that the white nationalists represent all conservatives. I'm pretty sure that's the point the OP is making; conservatives are Nazis.

Am I doing it right?

Plus one of the nationalist guys talked about wishing he could get a CCW permit in IL. So clearly being pro-gun makes you a white nationalist

 

[Rainsford]

Actually, that's frequently the contention around here, that all conservatives are in fact Nazis.

Just as often as all liberals are assumed to be Communists.

Stereotyping the other guys using the worst extreme of their views is a pretty easy way to argue for stupid people, which explains why it's so popular

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Good job exposing yourself. Good to know you support violence against people for having an opinion that differs from yours. You have become what you hate most.

Years ago he argued that it was his right of freedom of speech to steal "Support Our Troops!" ribbons off of soccermom's minivans.

 

[LunarRay]

because only white people are racists?

around here i see many wearing hats and shirts emblazoned with "Native Pride" and they are not racist. But do same with "white pride" and you get attacked with hammers by "anti-racists"

Racism sorta maintains that there are intrinsic characteristics that elevate some races above others.

I suppose there would be no need for pride in one's race but for some other race of people trying to put them down... It seems to me it is a matter of fighting back...

I don't see how say 'Native Pride' folks consider themselves intrinsically better than say 'White Pride' folks... Equal Yes... better No.

Being attacked with hammers might be cuz there is a history of Racism emanating from the White folks. The Native folks may despise the White folks but it is based on the White racism against them...