Far Cry

[RSanders]

I will be getting a job soon.. I am thinking about just saving up enough money to get a 9800Pro which is somewhere around $200 or so.

I will probably buy some cheap videocard first, then get the better one.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: Naustica
If you connect it to TV you should be able to run it at 800x600 w/ high details. You'll get free AA from TV. Check out this pic of Far Cry on a projector. Scroll down to see the pics. link

Thanks for making me hate my pathetic 10+ year old fishbowl Mitsubishi 35" TV...

and my 9yr old 36' JVC too! The wifey says no HDTV till this one dies, damned you JVC and Mitsubishi for making stuff that lasts! :laugh:

 

[ponyo]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: Naustica
If you connect it to TV you should be able to run it at 800x600 w/ high details. You'll get free AA from TV. Check out this pic of Far Cry on a projector. Scroll down to see the pics. link

Thanks for making me hate my pathetic 10+ year old fishbowl Mitsubishi 35" TV...

and my 9yr old 36' JVC too! The wifey says no HDTV till this one dies, damned you JVC and Mitsubishi for making stuff that lasts! :laugh:

Hehe. That's why you always buy a gift first for your wife to soften her up before spending money on your toys.

Now I've experienced watching DVDs and playing games on 100+ inch widescreen, it's hard to look at my 53" and 36" TVs the same way again. It's like working on 22" monitor and then having to use 15" monitor but only more so.

 

[Pete]

$100 is pretty good for a 9500P, but 9700Ps and 9800Ps go for as little as $130 on eBay, IIRC.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Naustica

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: Naustica
If you connect it to TV you should be able to run it at 800x600 w/ high details. You'll get free AA from TV. Check out this pic of Far Cry on a projector. Scroll down to see the pics. link

Thanks for making me hate my pathetic 10+ year old fishbowl Mitsubishi 35" TV...

and my 9yr old 36' JVC too! The wifey says no HDTV till this one dies, damned you JVC and Mitsubishi for making stuff that lasts! :laugh:

Hehe. That's why you always buy a gift first for your wife to soften her up before spending money on your toys.

Now I've experienced watching DVDs and playing games on 100+ inch widescreen, it's hard to look at my 53" and 36" TVs the same way again. It's like working on 22" monitor and then having to use 15" monitor but only more so.

Sweet! What projector do you have, where did you buy it, and how much? TIA for any info :beer:

 

[Transistor]

Why do people like FarCry? I played the demo and was bored. I can't think of a game to compare it to because it is so bland. The gameplay is boring. Thief, Spinter Cell, Battlefield 1942, Half-life, Deus Ex, on and on... put FarCry to shame. The UT2K4, which I'm into right now, is much better. Gameplay is seriously lacking in FarCry. It's like a technology demo and that's it.

It has some nice eyecandy and it is pretty. However, it has a Serious Sam look to most of the textures. Yuck.

 

[SickBeast]

Wow...8500LE for Far Cry? I've played it on mine but it's useless; you're forced to run with all the settings on "low" and it really negates the superior graphics. On top of that it runs slow.

My 9700PRO struggles to run the game at 1280x1024 with all the settings at medium, shadows at low, and lighting at very high. I don't really think even the 9500PRO is acceptable for this game.

To run the game adequately, I suppose the 9700PRO will do. However, it's going to require the latest cards (X800 etc) to run the game as it was designed to run.

 

[ponyo]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Originally posted by: Naustica

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: Naustica
If you connect it to TV you should be able to run it at 800x600 w/ high details. You'll get free AA from TV. Check out this pic of Far Cry on a projector. Scroll down to see the pics. link

Thanks for making me hate my pathetic 10+ year old fishbowl Mitsubishi 35" TV...

and my 9yr old 36' JVC too! The wifey says no HDTV till this one dies, damned you JVC and Mitsubishi for making stuff that lasts! :laugh:

Hehe. That's why you always buy a gift first for your wife to soften her up before spending money on your toys.

Now I've experienced watching DVDs and playing games on 100+ inch widescreen, it's hard to look at my 53" and 36" TVs the same way again. It's like working on 22" monitor and then having to use 15" monitor but only more so.

Sweet! What projector do you have, where did you buy it, and how much? TIA for any info :beer:

I bought Infocus X1 for $827 AR from Compuplus. It's a good starter projector. I got my Zenith DVB318 DVD player hooked up to it displaying 1080i scaled. Hooked up my cheap spare Kenwood 5.1 receiver w/ JBL speakers. I'm using white painted wall as a screen until I can afford a decent professional screen. I tried my dreamcast via VGA- looked terrific. Also tried my PS2 and gamecube. Both looked good but not good as dreamcast. I think it was due to composite input. Probably will look better with component adaptor. I also hooked up my computer via VGA and played little Halo, NFS:U, BF1942, and MOH. All looked incredible even at low 800x600 res. Strange how it can look so crappy at that res on my computer monitor yet look so good on the big screen. I told my wife I'm going to build a cheap media/game PC to hook up to this and she was all for it.

In all it's the best $830 I've spent this year. My wife is happy cause I finally did something w/ the big empty finished basement room. I'm happy cause I've a new toy to play with and can finally watch all my DVDs in theater like environment.

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: Transistor
Why do people like FarCry? I played the demo and was bored. I can't think of a game to compare it to because it is so bland. The gameplay is boring. Thief, Spinter Cell, Battlefield 1942, Half-life, Deus Ex, on and on... put FarCry to shame. The UT2K4, which I'm into right now, is much better. Gameplay is seriously lacking in FarCry. It's like a technology demo and that's it.

It has some nice eyecandy and it is pretty. However, it has a Serious Sam look to most of the textures. Yuck.

You can't knock a game after playing a mere demo
Farcry is anything but bland...it's pretty intense

*edit*
I've been playing around with my "9700 pro", trying to see how well I could run the game and still have it look nice...messing with fraps and such
if you consider 40-50fps comfortably playable, a 9700 pro will do for this game
run around 10x7...low AA, lowest AF, high detail
you wont notice much between highest and high detail, but it will cause a small performance hit
also, I tried playing with no AA vs. low AA, and didn't notice much of any performance difference, but visual difference was definitely there
tried lowest AF vs. highest AF settings as well...here it was the opposite...didn't notice much of any visual difference, but the performance hit was running around 33% and making my frames drop under 30 often

can anyone else confirm this?
this seems like an optimal setting for the not so latest and greatest

 

[Brian48]

I don't use FSAA or Aniso with this game. Too much of a performance hit. With my 9700Pro machine (box#2), I just run it at 1152x864 with all options set to VERY HIGH and Trillinear. It's slower than what I'm used to with UT2004 or Call of Duty, but it's still very playable.

 

[RussianSensation]

Originally posted by: Transistor
Why do people like FarCry? I played the demo and was bored. I can't think of a game to compare it to because it is so bland. The gameplay is boring. Thief, Spinter Cell, Battlefield 1942, Half-life, Deus Ex, on and on... put FarCry to shame. The UT2K4, which I'm into right now, is much better. Gameplay is seriously lacking in FarCry. It's like a technology demo and that's it.

It has some nice eyecandy and it is pretty. However, it has a Serious Sam look to most of the textures. Yuck.

Everyone has different opinions about music, fashion, food, cars, vacation spots, and so on.....You can't argue opinions. You didn't like it, I liked it. But there is no sense in you wasting time telling people you don't like Far Cry in a Far Cry related thread because obviously we play it because it's fun.

 

[Transistor]

The thread is about FarCry. If I want to discuss how I dislike the game, then that is my prerogative. I am not going to be told not to waste people?s time because you don?t agree with my opinion. My original question was ?Why do people like FarCry?? I asked a simple question and gave an opinion. Your contribution to the conversation was to try to silence me because I have a different opinion of the game. This could have been an opportunity for you to share something you enjoy about the game and possibly sway my opinion. Instead, you made an attempt to insult me by telling me I am wasting people?s time and that I have no sense. You are the counter-productive one, not I.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Thanks Naustica! :beer: I'll check that projector out, that's less than half what I was planning to spend so that'll keep peace in my house.

As to the FarCry is boring statements, @37 I find games like UT2k4 too frenetic a pace. FarCry is my kinda game though, immersive graphics and the ability to complete the levels without using the same tactics or approach everytime. I say more power to us all because we're all gamers, so we have a common interest we share :sun:

 

[RSanders]

Will an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro be a good card for another year or so? I will only have enough to buy it and if I do, I don't want to be disappointed when a game comes out in a few months that it has trouble playing. If that is the case, I will buy a lower video card that costs around $100 and save for a better card than the 9800 Pro.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: RSanders
Will an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro be a good card for another year or so? I will only have enough to buy it and if I do, I don't want to be disappointed when a game comes out in a few months that it has trouble playing. If that is the case, I will buy a lower video card that costs around $100 and save for a better card than the 9800 Pro.

I'd council you to just live with what you have for now. My reasoning is that your system bandwidth and CPU power are already weak by current standards and although a 9800pro would improve performance over your current card the rest of your rig will probably be a crutch all too soon if not immediately. I'd save for a full system upgrade of CPU, board, ram, and vid card. Otherwise you will keep hitting walls due to one or another of your components bottlenecking you=vicious cycle of constantly needing something else to get you over the hump, the way I see it.

 

[slag]

Originally posted by: Naustica

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: Naustica
If you connect it to TV you should be able to run it at 800x600 w/ high details. You'll get free AA from TV. Check out this pic of Far Cry on a projector. Scroll down to see the pics. link

Thanks for making me hate my pathetic 10+ year old fishbowl Mitsubishi 35" TV...

and my 9yr old 36' JVC too! The wifey says no HDTV till this one dies, damned you JVC and Mitsubishi for making stuff that lasts! :laugh:

Hehe. That's why you always buy a gift first for your wife to soften her up before spending money on your toys.

Now I've experienced watching DVDs and playing games on 100+ inch widescreen, it's hard to look at my 53" and 36" TVs the same way again. It's like working on 22" monitor and then having to use 15" monitor but only more so.

You cannot call a projector a widescreen.. its nowhere near the same. I have a 65 inch mitsubishi HDTV but wouldnt dream of playing computer games on it due to the place its set up. My lcd works great for gaming.

 

[slag]

Originally posted by: Avalon

Originally posted by: Transistor
Why do people like FarCry? I played the demo and was bored. I can't think of a game to compare it to because it is so bland. The gameplay is boring. Thief, Spinter Cell, Battlefield 1942, Half-life, Deus Ex, on and on... put FarCry to shame. The UT2K4, which I'm into right now, is much better. Gameplay is seriously lacking in FarCry. It's like a technology demo and that's it.

It has some nice eyecandy and it is pretty. However, it has a Serious Sam look to most of the textures. Yuck.

You can't knock a game after playing a mere demo
Farcry is anything but bland...it's pretty intense

*edit*
I've been playing around with my "9700 pro", trying to see how well I could run the game and still have it look nice...messing with fraps and such
if you consider 40-50fps comfortably playable, a 9700 pro will do for this game
run around 10x7...low AA, lowest AF, high detail
you wont notice much between highest and high detail, but it will cause a small performance hit
also, I tried playing with no AA vs. low AA, and didn't notice much of any performance difference, but visual difference was definitely there
tried lowest AF vs. highest AF settings as well...here it was the opposite...didn't notice much of any visual difference, but the performance hit was running around 33% and making my frames drop under 30 often

can anyone else confirm this?
this seems like an optimal setting for the not so latest and greatest

I have a 9500 softmodded to a 9700 pro and am using an intel p4c 3.25 ghz. I play with everything maxxed out and the only places it gets slow is with fog. Its very playable

 

[RSanders]

I stated above that I was getting this videocard for a new PC that I am building, not the current system.

All I want to know is if the ATI Radeon 9800 Pro is worth getting now and will it last me over a year or so. I will have a processor to handle it.