Far Cry Kills XFX 7800GTX 256MB ?!

[anghellic]

Hi.

I am trying to find out if my xfx 7800 GTX is suppose to crash under Far Cry. I have a Dell 2005 FPW and resolution set to 1650 X 1050. Far Cry plays for a short while then my whole computer restarts.

Things I have tried:

-Reducing my resolution to about 1024 X 768
-Installing latest Far Cry 1.33 Patch
-Installing latest Nvidia drivers for my card.
-Disabling Computer Overclock; Running on stock speed.

Here are my Far Cry Settings. I'm wondering if they're not too high (even for a 7800GTX)

Anisotropic Filtering - 1
Environment Quality - High
Water Quality - High
Anti-Aliasing - 4X
Resolution - 1650 X 1050
Rendering Mode - "Cold"
Lighting Quality - Low
Shadow Quality - Low
Texture Filter Quality - Trilinear
Particle Count - High
Special Effects Quality - High
Sound Quality - High

I also installed FRAPS and my frame rates are good...about 71 and above. But my computer still crashes. I am guessing that an XFX 256 Meg card should be able to handle this. I am not sure about the resolution though.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

 

[Aznguy1872]

When reinstalling nvidia drivers make sure to use driver cleaner of some sort to get rid of all the files that are still left over. If that doesn't work then hrm I dont really know...

 

[fliguy84]

i used to crash while playing far cry with my 6800nu. after tinkering for a while, i figured out that it was my sound card settings that gave me the problem. i set it to low quality and disable eax, and everything works fine. but i know, it was trade off to play without any problems :S

 

[Drayvn]

I have no clue why yours is crashing.

I play Far Cry with everything on the highest settings and i have the same screen as you which i run at 1680x1050 and all i dont have is AA as i have HDR on instead and it runs damn smooth

 

[Elfear]

Like Drayvn said your GTX should be able to handle FarCry at those settings. You could probably put everything to max and still get good frames. Have yo checked how hot your GTX is getting? Maybe crashing because of heat issues?

 

[Elusiv1]

It could be your PSU, what amperage do you have on all the rails??? Also, your ram could be unstable or there's a possibility of a driver issue???? Please post your system specs.........

 

[TomSM]

It's PSU. If you crash w/ blue screen then It'd be your memory.

 

[tuteja1986]

PSU or Memory crapping out issue me think :!

 

[Steelski]

PSU or Memory!. that card should be able to run that res with everything on very high and ultra high.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am running all those on a 9800 with acceptable rates of frame. Also Farcry is CPU bound so those frames wont change much even at higher settings!!!!!!! does your computer crash during other games?

 

[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: TomSM
It's PSU. If you crash w/ blue screen then It'd be your memory.

Not necessarily, mem problems don't always have to bluescreen.

Uninstall all drivers, install DriverCleaner.
Reboot, run Drivercleaner as instructed, reboot, install latest NV drivers.

If its still crashing, it is likely a hardware issue but you never know. Check your PSU specs and if that seems in line run MemTest.

 

[Topweasel]

Originally posted by: anghellic
Hi.

I am trying to find out if my xfx 7800 GTX is suppose to crash under Far Cry. I have a Dell 2005 FPW and resolution set to 1650 X 1050. Far Cry plays for a short while then my whole computer restarts.

Things I have tried:

-Reducing my resolution to about 1024 X 768
-Installing latest Far Cry 1.33 Patch
-Installing latest Nvidia drivers for my card.
-Disabling Computer Overclock; Running on stock speed.

Here are my Far Cry Settings. I'm wondering if they're not too high (even for a 7800GTX)

Anisotropic Filtering - 1
Environment Quality - High
Water Quality - High
Anti-Aliasing - 4X
Resolution - 1650 X 1050
Rendering Mode - "Cold"
Lighting Quality - Low
Shadow Quality - Low
Texture Filter Quality - Trilinear
Particle Count - High
Special Effects Quality - High
Sound Quality - High

I also installed FRAPS and my frame rates are good...about 71 and above. But my computer still crashes. I am guessing that an XFX 256 Meg card should be able to handle this. I am not sure about the resolution though.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

I had problems like that with FarCry But it turned out to be an issue with the X64 patches. That and I am not sure if .33 is the best patch out their. Crytech doesn't seem to be the best at devloping and testing patches.

 

[ForumMaster]

r u geting a blue screen? or does ur comp just turn off? if it is blue screen, disable auto restart and choose a directory for ur mem dump. write down ur BSOD codes and google them. if ur computer simply restarts or shutsdown, it'd probablly be heat issues.

 

[akugami]

The question is what is displayed during the crash? If BSOD, you can usually see the error it produces and sorta figure out what it might be. If it locks up with the game screen still showing, it could be your video card overheating (bad fan, or insufficient memory cooling on the GPU). Bad memory is always a possible culprit. Run memtest86 to find out if this is the case. A failing PSU is also a popular culprit.

 

[anghellic]

I think Topweasel has a point. After installing the X64 patch (or patch 1.33), my problems began. I remember uninstalling the X64 patch because it caused the game to freeze and installing the 1.33 patch instead. Only to find out that they're pretty much the same thing.

I don't think that my PSU doesn't have enough juice....If you take a look at my Rig you will see that I'm running the Turbo-Cool 850 Watt PSU. Furthermore, the voltages are dead-on-bawls accurate with a 12V rail well over 50 Amps!

One of you asked at what temp does my card run while playing far cry. Well it runs between 50 and 60 C, with the threshold for shutting down being 110C.
I don't think it's a temperature issue.

I don't get any BSODs, my computer just restarts. Period. All temperatures are good. CPU>> about 47 C on burn and system about 37 C.

Come to think of it. I am pretty sure it's the patch. Before the patch I had everything on high with little problems.

I will find a way to remove the patch and switch to patch 1.32 and see what happens. This might be a couple of days since my room is being painted and my computer is packed away.

My system Specs
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AMD Athlon X2 4800+....all overclocking disabled.
Corsair twinx2048-3500LL pro memory....stock voltages and speed.
ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe
PC Power and Cooling 850SSI SLI ready
XFX GeForce 7800GTX Factory O/C 490/1300
Windows XP Professional X64 Version, service pack 1
Zalman CNPS95500 LED CPU Cooler
Thermaltake Tsunami Case


Again, I really appreciate the help from all of you guys. Cheers!

 

[anghellic]

oh one more thing. I did a System stability test with my overclocking (2.6 GHz) enabled for a whole day with no problems and no crashes. I think that if my RAM were bad, they would crap out. Furthermore, I play far cry with all overclocking off. Nothing is being stressed.

 

[Regs]

If it was memory or a failing PSU, your problems would be more sporadic and universal through out applications both 2D and especially 3D intensive.

If it's just one application there is obviously a flaw with the medium its running on.

One thing could be the over clock. Even if you test your system 100x over with prime 95 and other commercial stability tests, it doesn't mean Far Cry was tested on your test bed back when it was being developed. Quality control does not include overclocked systems. If your CPU mis-calculates or mis-fetches data from memory, then your system will crash.

However, I think your problem will more likely be caused by an incapability or a software glitch. Like fliguy84 stated, it could be your sound card. It could also be a number of other things causing conflicts. Like fossil x64 files, media drivers that do not support far crys built in video/audio controls, old game saves located outside the games routine uninstall scripts, even a bad sector on a hard drive.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Here is what I run: AMD Opteron 170, ASUS A8N-SLI Premium, eVGA GeForce 7800GT, 2.0GB CL2 Corsair DDR400, WinXP PRO SP2, DX9C.

I have been playing Far Cry (latest build) on a DELL FP2001, 1600x1200, 4x FSAA, 16x AF, all settings maxed.

And it is FLAWLESS!!!

 

[anghellic]

Regs you are absolutely right. Which is why I disabled all overclocking. A seemingly stable system with P95 and Memtest doesn't mean that it will not crash under COD 2 or any other game.

But my problems are with all overclocking disabled and all stock speeds. I KNOW my video card is not crap...and as such it should be handling that no problem with all settings maxed out and then some.

 

[anghellic]

The other thing is I can tell when it will crash soon. Sometimes I see some horrible artifacts on the screen. Other times I see some moderate cases of image tearing.

When I get the chance I will remove the x64 and see what happens.

 

[DimZiE]

Originally posted by: anghellic
The other thing is I can tell when it will crash soon. Sometimes I see some horrible artifacts on the screen. Other times I see some moderate cases of image tearing.

When I get the chance I will remove the x64 and see what happens.

might be your PSU or heat...

got the same problem.. coz some VGA manufacturer does not ship adequate cooling solution with their card.. added some ramsinks and a bigger HSF for the core solved the problem for me... you might want to try it..

 

[anghellic]

Dimzie, I checked the temperature of the card using the utility in the Nview program by Nvidia. The card runs at about 57 C while playing Far Cry. The card is programmed to shut down if the temperature reaches or exceeds 110 C. Somehow I don't think heat is the problem. Although, later on I may look into some VGA coolers. But wouldn't that be a tight fit? Since I plan on getting another card for an SLI setup?

 

[anghellic]

Today is the day I get to set up my computer again. My room has been repainted. So hopefully I will have some news for you guys by late tonight or early next morning regarding that x64 patch.

Cheers!

 

[Zebo]

Download nvtweak and underclock your card to 350/900 and lemme know how it goes. I think card is defective.

 

[anghellic]

Guys I have Bad News.
Last night I removed all the patches from Far Cry. Then I turned everything up to max. It played fine for a couple of minutes...no lagging...no artifacts...then suddenly boom. My comnputer restarted.


I am going to do two things:

1. Use Nvtweak like Zebo suggested
2. Install and play a different game (let's say COD 2) with max settings and see what happens. If it shuts down while playing another game then I know that I need a new card for sure.

 

[anghellic]

Hey Zebo how did you get your X2 4200+ to run at 2580 Mhz?
I have a 4800+ which I managed to get up to 2604 Mhz then suddenly it wasn't stable anymore after a couple of days.