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Far Cry 2 DRM/Securom/limited activations...

yepp

Senior member
http://shop.ubi.com/Prod_ExtDe...sp?catalogid=750&id=35

If in french click on the British flag, click on Far Cry 2, scroll down to bottom of page.

This video game is protected by the digital rights management software SecuROM which installs additional components required for copy protection on the user's
computer and limits the number of installations of the game. During the installation and/or the first launch, an online connection is required to unlock the game.


http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...521068375/m/3981062496

bukowski113-Ubi Forum Manager:

- You have 5 activations on 3 separate PCs.

- Uninstalling the game ?refunds? an activation. This process is called ?revoke?, so as long as you complete proper uninstall you will be able to install the game an unlimited number of times on 3 systems.

- You can upgrade your computer as many time as you want (using our revoke system)

- Ubisoft is committed to the support of our games, and additional activations can be provided.

- Ubisoft is committed to the long term support of our games: you?ll always be able to play Far Cry 2.
 
Originally posted by: YEPP
http://shop.ubi.com/Prod_ExtDe...sp?catalogid=750&id=35

If in french click on the British flag, click on Far Cry 2, scroll down to bottom of page.

This video game is protected by the digital rights management software SecuROM which installs additional components required for copy protection on the user's
computer and limits the number of installations of the game. During the installation and/or the first launch, an online connection is required to unlock the game.


http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...521068375/m/3981062496

bukowski113-Ubi Forum Manager:

- You have 5 activations on 3 separate PCs.

- Uninstalling the game ?refunds? an activation. This process is called ?revoke?, so as long as you complete proper uninstall you will be able to install the game an unlimited number of times on 3 systems.

- You can upgrade your computer as many time as you want (using our revoke system)

- Ubisoft is committed to the support of our games, and additional activations can be provided.

- Ubisoft is committed to the long term support of our games: you?ll always be able to play Far Cry 2.


so you can actually install it on 3 different systems? As long as you do a proper uninstall you get to reclaim activations? sounds ok to me.
 
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

so you can actually install it on 3 different systems? As long as you do a proper uninstall you get to reclaim activations? sounds ok to me.

Assuming Securom doesn't cause crashing or other system problems, then sure, their policy sounds reasonable. But apparently for some percentage of users that's exactly what happens. And pirates can and will download a cracked version containing no restictive software that might cause conflicts or crashes on their systems. So buying the game gets you a restricted possibly malware level monitoring software, and pirating gets you the same game minus the hassle. EA & Co need to look at the options the average consumer has and decide what makes sense for them.
 
Well, maybe I'll wait until right before I plan to do a reformat/reinstall anyway...

Or hope that the Steam version comes SecuRom free.
 
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
so you can actually install it on 3 different systems? As long as you do a proper uninstall you get to reclaim activations? sounds ok to me.

If what bukowski113 says is true, then it is less restrictive than the method EA is using.

I'm still not 100% clear on what is mean't by "You have 5 activations on 3 separate PCs "

I for one won't be buying, the DRM is not hardware failure proof. The thought of managing all my games just to upgrade my machine or installing a clean OS is off putting.
 
I don't pirate games, no way am I going to go DL a crack for a game I legitimately purchased.
 
Originally posted by: Maximilian
In the words of AVGN what a shitload of fuck. They should have learned from spores example.

Crysis Warhead and Stalker Clear Sky use similar install limit methods - you don't see a mass crybabyfest about those games now do ya?

I guess a lot of you will be missing out on some great games going forward as it's not going to change - Install limit/DRM is here to stay.

Don't like it - then you'll just have to stick with playing your circa 1980's games.. 😉

 
Originally posted by: coloumb
Originally posted by: Maximilian
In the words of AVGN what a shitload of fuck. They should have learned from spores example.

Crysis Warhead and Stalker Clear Sky use similar install limit methods - you don't see a mass crybabyfest about those games now do ya?

I guess a lot of you will be missing out on some great games going forward as it's not going to change - Install limit/DRM is here to stay.

Don't like it - then you'll just have to stick with playing your circa 1980's games.. 😉


Well, I am still bycotting Warhead, and bought Clear Sky before I knew about the DRM and can't return it now. Clear Sky has taught me to ALWAYS check what DRM a game has before I buy it even if I hear nothing bad (GREAT game but I would still bycott it if I knew before hand).

I will Not be buying Farcry 2 with this DRM, when they patch it out maybe along with every other game with similar DRM.

My reasoning is that this DRM is a unwanted and unneeded hassle for me, that is all the reason I need.

Side note, I'm currently playing through Warcraft 3, and am about to move onto Frozen Throne. Next will be starcraft 1/BW :laugh:
A good game is a good game, the PC has enough of them that I won't have to drop the soap to play a good game because there are no others.
 
Slightly better than the other install limiting schemes I've seen, but it doesn't count as a proper uninstall if your hardware fails and you have to reformat. Still seems pretty ridiculous.
 
I'm glad they have a method for deactivation. The only problem with that is when the user is unable to perform an uninstall. They essentially lose one activation. The hard drive may die, the OS may become unusable, or the computer might spontaneously explode sending shrapnel into the users head. Not only would the user have shrapnel lodged into their skull, but they would also be out an activation.
 
Originally posted by: AdamK47
I'm glad they have a method for deactivation. The only problem with that is when the user is unable to perform an uninstall. They essentially lose one activation. The hard drive may die, the OS may become unusable, or the computer might spontaneously explode sending shrapnel into the users head. Not only would the user have shrapnel lodged into their skull, but they would also be out an activation.

suxballslol
 
Originally posted by: coloumb
Originally posted by: Maximilian
In the words of AVGN what a shitload of fuck. They should have learned from spores example.

Crysis Warhead and Stalker Clear Sky use similar install limit methods - you don't see a mass crybabyfest about those games now do ya?

I guess a lot of you will be missing out on some great games going forward as it's not going to change - Install limit/DRM is here to stay.

Don't like it - then you'll just have to stick with playing your circa 1980's games.. 😉

Heh dont count on it, piracy is also here to stay 😉

Enjoy playing your limited activation shit in a dvd case games that you paid good cash for.
 
Any word on the Steam version yet?

Steam really should have a no-DRM policy on their games. I mean, the thing is already tied to your Steam account, why would there need to be addtional DRM on top of that?
 
Originally posted by: coloumb
Crysis Warhead and Stalker Clear Sky use similar install limit methods - you don't see a mass crybabyfest about those games now do ya?

Actually there was a protest of those games as well. Check out amazon.

Originally posted by: coloumb

Don't like it - then you'll just have to stick with playing your circa 1980's games.. 😉

Have fun trying to play the game you bought in 5 years when the activation servers go down. I'll be playing my DRM free games like Sins of a Solar Empire and Demigod.

To bad Ubi decided to use this crap protection. Looks like i'll be buying a lot less PC games this season.
 
Originally posted by: Slick5150
Any word on the Steam version yet?

Steam really should have a no-DRM policy on their games. I mean, the thing is already tied to your Steam account, why would there need to be addtional DRM on top of that?

I wouldn't get your hopes up. So far all games that use this new activation based SecuROM nonsense also include it on the steam versions. Bioshock, Crysis Warhead, etc..
 
Originally posted by: Miklebud
Thank God for Steam. <3

most games that had drm in the retail package get it on steam too.

don't most drm inflicted games patch to remove the need to contact activation servers after a year or so?
 
Originally posted by: AdamK47
I'm glad they have a method for deactivation. The only problem with that is when the user is unable to perform an uninstall. They essentially lose one activation. The hard drive may die, the OS may become unusable, or the computer might spontaneously explode sending shrapnel into the users head. Not only would the user have shrapnel lodged into their skull, but they would also be out an activation.

they're giving you FIVE different activations, if you have your PC die 5 times and are unable to install the game. You need a new PC. MY PC's stability is shaky at best sometimes, and I believe I could manage with even 3. If you need more than 5 from crashes my suggestion is buy an Xbox360 PC's ain't for you 🙂

on a serious note, while I don't like any form of DRM, 5 installs with the option to revoke an install is good. And I'd say the chances of a single person having 5 instances where they're unable to uninstall the game due to system failure is none, so it's a non issue.
 
Originally posted by: QueBert
on a serious note, while I don't like any form of DRM, 5 installs with the option to revoke an install is good. And I'd say the chances of a single person having 5 instances where they're unable to uninstall the game due to system failure is none, so it's a non issue.

But it's the principle of the matter! Even for those of us that get a little adventurous with our systems or just suck at computers, shouldn't we be entitled to the same usage of the game?

I dunno. I was glad to see Bioshock install limits revoked before I bought the game; not sure if it would have influenced my final purchase decision either way. (I was pretty unaware of DRM before Bioshock, tbh). What I do know is that less restrictive DRM feels better, whether or not it makes a practical difference.
 
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