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fan for athlon thunderbird 1.2?

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imported_Reck

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I think my old antec 7500rpm fan is wearing out, it idles higher and higher these days. Must be, since the weather is much cooler now and the idle has went up. With a 7500rpm fan it idles at 50-52C. I'm not the person who built the computer so...I've never installed a cpu fan. I asked months ago on another forum and was reccomended a taisol or something like that, if I remember right I didn't end up buying it cause the retention method wasn't what I needed. Is it possible to have a fan that cools as well as my old one but is quiet? The antec sounds like a freaking jet or something, it's loud as hell. I can hear it in a few rooms away. Another thing, to install a cpu fan,do you have to take out the whole motherboard cause that would be scary...lol. My motherboard is the abit kt7. Thanks.

 
I'm still using one old T-Bird Socket A PC, with a 1.33 cpu. The hsf says Cooler Master on the 60 mm fan and isn't terribly noisy, but this one has always run pretty hot since new (the MB will take a newer, faster cpu that might run cooler, and I had a Palomino 2100 around here SOMEWHERE I planned to use .. oh, well!)

Depending on how the heatsink is made, you can probably unscrew the existing fan and attach a replacement without any difficulty at all, and without having to do anything more complicated than removing the side panel for access -- do remember to unplug the power cord, though -- always better that way. Don't try for just any fan for this. You need one with the 3-pin lead that plugs into the MB. One of the simplest ways to combine decent cooling with low noise is putting in an adapter from 60 mm to 80 mm and using bigger fans on the heat sinks.

Replacing the entire heatsink and fan is a lot more complicated, harder to do with the MB in the case, and has considerably more potential for mistakes, although it's really a better way to go in the long run (how much longer do you plan to hold onto that old PC, anyway?) I just bought a Thermaltake Silent Boost that is made a lot like the suggested hsf in Operandi's reply. I will be using it in a DVR/HTPC I'm going to assemble around an AMD XP 2600, and the (pre-owned, old) case is probably going to be a veritable nightmare to get good air circulation going in.


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So how do I even know what size my curent one is? It's a small fan...smaller than the case fans. They have adpter that allow you to mount bigger fans? Won't that cause an airflow offset though? Actually I already replaced the chipset fan months ago and as I was doing it I was just checking to see how tight a fit the cpu fan was and it's on there very tight. To remove it you have to use two screwdrivers and wedge them in while leveraging them so it pushes the clip out...very dangerous if you were to slip. Damn wtf are hardware makers doing anyway...not like the fan is somehow going to jump away from the mount eh? The way most cpu fans are mounted is overkill and it's a major pain in the ass to replace.
 
dude, this will fit your CPU
it's SocketA (462) and will fit the socket for sure.
your CPU fan is probably a delta screamer 60mm fan, I have had 3 of them. they never made a fan that spun that fast in an 8cm or larger format AFAIK.
but that coolermaster heatsink i showed you, I have one on an Athlon900 (TBIRD) and one on an Athlon 2600+ and it keeps both of them cool as can be.
 
Yea I asked the person who built and it is a 60MM fan. Craig I'd like to avoid replacing the heatsink as I don't really want to end up without a computer if I **** it up.
 
Originally posted by: Reck
Yea I asked the person who built and it is a 60MM fan. Craig I'd like to avoid replacing the heatsink as I don't really want to end up without a computer if I **** it up.
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It's not really that difficult if you take your time, but if you just want a new fan I go for this Y.S. Tech.
 
Originally posted by: Operandi
Originally posted by: Reck
Yea I asked the person who built and it is a 60MM fan. Craig I'd like to avoid replacing the heatsink as I don't really want to end up without a computer if I **** it up.
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It's not really that difficult if you take your time, but if you just want a new fan I go for this Y.S. Tech.
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if you are indeed just buying a fan, i can attest to the ys.tech fans.. they are great fans.. and that particular model should not be very loud at all.
 
Originally posted by: Reck
So how do I even know what size my curent one is? It's a small fan...smaller than the case fans. They have adpter that allow you to mount bigger fans? Won't that cause an airflow offset though? Actually I already replaced the chipset fan months ago and as I was doing it I was just checking to see how tight a fit the cpu fan was and it's on there very tight. To remove it you have to use two screwdrivers and wedge them in while leveraging them so it pushes the clip out...very dangerous if you were to slip. Damn wtf are hardware makers doing anyway...not like the fan is somehow going to jump away from the mount eh? The way most cpu fans are mounted is overkill and it's a major pain in the ass to replace.
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You are talking about the clip that holds on the ENTIRE hsf unit when you complain about using two screwdrivers. I already told you that you probably don't need to or want to UNCLIP the heat sink.

Well, this didn't work:
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Some places that would display that hsf's picture.

That Cooler Master heat sink unit looks like it has a 70 mm fan on top, similar to my own Silent Boost hsf. In each case, there are four screws holding the fans onto the tops of the heat sinks. On the Cooler Master units, the screws look like they are below the top surface somewhat. See those holes in each corner?


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Yes I know how to remove the cpu fan man I've done it plenty of times to clean dust out of the heatsink grilles. .

So the Ys moves 27 CFM? How much air do I need to push do ya think? How loud is 36 db btw lol.

http://www.hardwarereview.net/...mm%20Fan%20Adapter.htm

What about a 60>80mm adapter? What way should I go? Edit: I should note that the heatsink is flush with the 60MM fan btw.

http://www.burnoutpc.com/modul...icle.php?articleid=153

That looks promising...it's aluminum so it would disappate heat more. Anyone use these?
 
Bumpity. Hmm I don't think I can use a 80mm fan, my case is too small and the 80mm would almost completely block the rear intake fan. So yea how much air is 27CFM then? This is something I really have to pay atention to, my room is very hot during the summer. I know there are still some tbird users here. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Kiwi
I'm still using one old T-Bird Socket A PC, with a 1.33 cpu. The hsf says Cooler Master on the 60 mm fan and isn't terribly noisy, but this one has always run pretty hot since new (the MB will take a newer, faster cpu that might run cooler, and I had a Palomino 2100 around here SOMEWHERE I planned to use .. oh, well!)

Depending on how the heatsink is made, you can probably unscrew the existing fan and attach a replacement without any difficulty at all, and without having to do anything more complicated than removing the side panel for access -- do remember to unplug the power cord, though -- always better that way. Don't try for just any fan for this. You need one with the 3-pin lead that plugs into the MB. One of the simplest ways to combine decent cooling with low noise is putting in an adapter from 60 mm to 80 mm and using bigger fans on the heat sinks.
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There may be adapters for the smaller step upward from 60 to 70 mm, but I haven't run across any of those yet, myself. There are a couple of computer parts stores and one general electronics supplies type of store I can go to locally for fans, and there are an assortment of adapters available for the power leads.

Just go to any of the many web sites for cooling hardware, pick something, and then buy it. Small fans such as a 60 mm have to turn fairly high rpms (read than as being fairly noisy) to move a respectable amount of air. The ones on my two nearby AMD systems are louder than the power supplies in their respective systems; the one that came with a Retail XP 2800 is quieter than the aftermarket (Cooler Master) one on the T-Bird.

Incidentally, if you have a fan in the backplane near that hsf, and it's an INTAKE fan, it's backwards. The hot air coming out of the PSU next to the fan is being pulled right back into the system and isn't cooling anything; turn that one around the correct way and/or add some ducting to carry the PSU exhaust heat away from the fan's opening.


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Originally posted by: Reck
Bumpity. Hmm I don't think I can use a 80mm fan, my case is too small and the 80mm would almost completely block the rear intake fan. So yea how much air is 27CFM then? This is something I really have to pay atention to, my room is very hot during the summer. I know there are still some tbird users here. 🙂
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27 CFM is plenty as long as the heatsink isn't junk. I would just replace the whole thing, its not really that hard to replace the heatsink.
 
Yea kiwi brings up an excellent point about the air getting sucked back in. I know there are ducts for moving your hot air from your powersupply upwards so it doesn't get sucked into the case again. Where the hell can I find one of those at? I've been looking for one of those too.
 
Haha I made my own and it works brilliantly. All you need is some cardboard and some strong tape. No air at all from the power supply is sucked into the case again, it goes up past the case. It looks a bit cheesy but it works lol. Would take some pictures but I don't have a camera. 😉
 
I don't know but there is no way for it to be an exaust, there are only screw holes on one side of the fan.

Whoo hoo btw my cpu temps are 3C cooler now! I run 45C at full load! Sweet. Amazing. Not bad for a five minute construction. 🙂


 
Originally posted by: prometheusxls
The fan on the back is supposed to be exhanust (not inlet)...
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As I was telling him, yes. In this instance, it's a fan close to the PSU, and hot air rises upwards, so an exhaust in either the top, in front of the PSU, or in the upper rear, is what a cool design case should have. Intakes on the side panels work nicely to bring in unheated air flow to the central area where the most heat is generated (CPU, GPU).

If the fan in the backplane area is the wrong kind, facing the wrong way, it makes this story sound more like a case of an amateur builder being involved. The "standard" for fans used in PC's is a box-case fan with mount ears on both sides, suitable for use facing either way. Fans of this type have been used inside of various electronic equipment for several decades. The old vacuum tube hardware also often ran pretty hot, so many high power amplifiers, radio transmitters, etc. had need of heat sinks and fans way back when tubes were in use.


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>> there is no way for it to be an exaust, there are only screw holes on one side of the fan.

WRONG FAN used.

> If the fan in the backplane area is the wrong kind, facing the wrong way, it makes this story sound more like a case of an amateur builder being involved. The "standard" for fans used in PC's is a box-case fan with mount ears on both sides, suitable for use facing either way. Fans of this type have been used inside of various electronic equipment for several decades. The old vacuum tube hardware also often ran pretty hot, so many high power amplifiers, radio transmitters, etc. had need of heat sinks and fans way back when tubes were in use.


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