Falsely accused of an auto accident

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JulesMaximus

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Quotes from Tundrasolutions.com:

had the driveline clunk problem with a 2002 tacoma prerunner. Dealer removed, inspected and lubed the drive shaft. Problem remained. Said it was the design of the vehicle due to the combination of driveline length, torque and suspension of the prerunner. They said it had to do with the spline when the driveline lengthens and contracts when coming to a stop. Also mentioned that happens to some 95 and up 4runners, TUNDRAS and tacomas with auto trans. The problem I had with the tacoma was on the extreme end. Clunk would be felt almost every time I came to a stop. First few times, had to check the rear view mirror to see if someone had rear ended the truck. Turned in the tacoma and got a tundra manual trans.

I have a 2001 Tundra 4X4 Limited with the 4.7 liter V-8. Often, but not always, when I stop at a light or stop sign it feels like someone just rear-ended me. The truck sort of lurches forward. I think it's the transmission shifting down after it sits for a few seconds but the Toyota dealer insists it's the front shocks "unloading." The only problem with that theory is that if I coast to a gradual stop so there is no dipping in the front end - in other words no loading on the shocks - it still happens. Has anyone else out there experienced this problem? I think Toyota is blowing smoke up my you know what.

I'm the one that wrote the original solution to the "thump in the rear" (at one time is was called the arkie6 fix) which was caused by binding in the driveshaft slip yoke being relieved when the transmission downshifted immediately after a stop which allowed the driveshaft to compress and the rear springs to un-wrap. The fix involved liberal application of grease to the driveshaft splines. What you have described here sounds like something different. If you get the bump feeling when you ease into a stop, this likely isn't the result of driveshaft slip yoke binding. What you have described sounds like the air conditioning compressor kicking in which also raises engine speed 200-300 RPMs to compensate for the increased engine load. When this happens at a stop light, the increased RPMs will result in increased torque on the torque converter output shaft and it will cause you to creep/lurch forward if you don't have the brake depressed firmly and aren't anticipating it. Next time it happens, look at your tachometer and see if it jumps up a couple hundred RPM at the same time. If this is what is causing the lurch forward, I don't know of any "fix" for this.

If you get the bump when you do this in gear, but don't get it when in neutral, then it is very likely that the driveshaft slip yoke is binding. The only cure that I have found for this is to THOROUGHLY grease the slip yoke - 5 or 6 shots of grease in the slip joint zerk fitting with a grease gun will do nothing to improve this condition because of the large void under the zerk fitting. You will either have to put like 20-40 shots of grease in the zerk fitting (at least until you see the joint begin expanding from the grease and then a few extra for good measure) and drive it through a half dozen or so abrupt stops (or just bounce on the rear bumper real good a few times) and then remove the zerk fitting to relieve any excess grease (you don't want the slip joint completely full of grease or it will restrict compression of the joint). Don't forget to put the zerk fitting back in when you are done.

An alternative is to drop the driveshaft at the rear end and pull the slip yoke apart (match mark both halves of the slip yoke and where the driveshaft bolts to the pinion flange for reassembly). You can then thoroughly hand lubricate the slip yoke splines. I recommend a good quality moly fortified chassis grease for this application (Toyota only recommends the moly grease in the double cardan joint).

Part of the problem with these binding slip yokes is inadequate lubrication from the factory. Another factor, at least on my truck, is the poor machining of the slip yoke splines. I pulled mine apart and believe that I could have done a better job of machining the splines with a Dremel tool - the splines were wavy and irregular, and this was not from wear or galling, this was the way they were manufactured. Fortunately, with the thorough hand lubrication of the slip yoke with moly grease I haven't had any more "bumps" or "thumps" in the rear end in I don't know how long.
 

jEct2

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WOW.... I never really looked forward to my driver's license anyway...
Knowing theres people like that makes me disoriented about getting my license...(yes I haven't gotten my driver's license yet....:()
 
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Good job not leading psycho bitch to your house. You don't need redneck smack addicts who can't drive knowing where you live. :thumbsup::D

- M4H
 

Armoth

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Good job not leading psycho bitch to your house. You don't need redneck smack addicts who can't drive knowing where you live. :thumbsup::D

- M4H

Yeah, I thought she was going to hop out and get her mail too...it's a big neighborhood. So I'm glad for once that the mailboxes are away from the houses. The last thing I want to do is have to mess with getting a restraining order to keep some psycho away from my house.
 

BooGiMaN

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'M: That would mean you were on top of the Semi then... You were in the front of the Semi and there was a grayish white car behind you, and I saw you both pull into the shopping area.'


so you saw her and another car pull into the shopping area?

lol i am guessing that grayish white car is the one that hit her...he pulled in behind her and she then sped off in pursuit of you...lol crazy biatch
 

Armoth

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Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
'M: That would mean you were on top of the Semi then... You were in the front of the Semi and there was a grayish white car behind you, and I saw you both pull into the shopping area.'


so you saw her and another car pull into the shopping area?

lol i am guessing that grayish white car is the one that hit her...he pulled in behind her and she then sped off in pursuit of you...lol crazy biatch

Yeah, who the heck knows what her problem was... It didn't even make sense and I couldn't reason with her since she was on crack. Maybe she's just attention deprived...
 
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Originally posted by: Armoth
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Good job not leading psycho bitch to your house. You don't need redneck smack addicts who can't drive knowing where you live. :thumbsup::D

- M4H

Yeah, I thought she was going to hop out and get her mail too...it's a big neighborhood. So I'm glad for once that the mailboxes are away from the houses. The last thing I want to do is have to mess with getting a restraining order to keep some psycho away from my house.

Personally, if someone got on my ass in a car big enough to crush my puny little Civic, I'd be hightailing it the hell down to the police station.

"This crazy lady tailgated me the whole way here flashing her lights and honking at me! I think she might have a gun/bomb/anthrax/drugs!"

Then just sit back and watch the beatings. :D

- M4H
 
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Originally posted by: Armoth
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
'M: That would mean you were on top of the Semi then... You were in the front of the Semi and there was a grayish white car behind you, and I saw you both pull into the shopping area.'


so you saw her and another car pull into the shopping area?

lol i am guessing that grayish white car is the one that hit her...he pulled in behind her and she then sped off in pursuit of you...lol crazy biatch

Yeah, who the heck knows what her problem was... It didn't even make sense and I couldn't reason with her since she was on crack. Maybe she's just sex deprived...

You did say she was a fat uggo. Maybe she wanted you to ... ahem ... "rear end" her.

- M4H
 

Armoth

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Jan 22, 2003
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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Armoth
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
'M: That would mean you were on top of the Semi then... You were in the front of the Semi and there was a grayish white car behind you, and I saw you both pull into the shopping area.'


so you saw her and another car pull into the shopping area?

lol i am guessing that grayish white car is the one that hit her...he pulled in behind her and she then sped off in pursuit of you...lol crazy biatch

Yeah, who the heck knows what her problem was... It didn't even make sense and I couldn't reason with her since she was on crack. Maybe she's just sex deprived...

You did say she was a fat uggo. Maybe she wanted you to ... ahem ... "rear end" her.

- M4H

Oh, excuse me while I go vomit in the corner...ack! Sick and wrong...sick and wrong...
 

VirtualLarry

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Originally posted by: Armoth
Yeah, who the heck knows what her problem was... It didn't even make sense and I couldn't reason with her since she was on crack. Maybe she's just attention deprived...
That's a funny story but - if she was literally "on crack", then why didn't the cop haul her off? At least in this state, you can be arrested for DUI if you are on anything, really, if it affects your ability to drive.

It's probably good that her car didn't show any damage (right?), because if it had, the cop might have given it a bit more thought. That's one reason why I don't park anywhere near damaged cars in parking lots. Because you never know.
 

cavemanmoron

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Originally posted by: PingSpike
She probably hit a pothole while blabbing on her cellphone and building a lego star ship in her glove box. When she looks up, she saw your car and just assumed you'd rear-ended her and pulled a hit and run...because she's THE BEST GOD DAMN DRIVER IN THE WORLD!

Good move calling your bro to get pics though. It ended ok, but who the fvck knows.

;)
 

imported_Hi

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Feb 22, 2005
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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Armoth
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Good job not leading psycho bitch to your house. You don't need redneck smack addicts who can't drive knowing where you live. :thumbsup::D

- M4H

Yeah, I thought she was going to hop out and get her mail too...it's a big neighborhood. So I'm glad for once that the mailboxes are away from the houses. The last thing I want to do is have to mess with getting a restraining order to keep some psycho away from my house.

Personally, if someone got on my ass in a car big enough to crush my puny little Civic, I'd be hightailing it the hell down to the police station.

"This crazy lady tailgated me the whole way here flashing her lights and honking at me! I think she might have a gun/bomb/anthrax/drugs!"

Then just sit back and watch the beatings. :D

- M4H


again with the ugly civic :p
 

tami

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Nov 14, 2004
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you don't have her info? i'd get a lawyer to scare her off with some sort of letter (a harassment charge may be good). make her replace the rock chips on your car. :)

how could a vehicle just hit another vehicle and drive off -- especially when both drivers are present? her story makes no sense from the start.

she probably had damages (whatever they may be, since you said you didn't see anything obvious) from someone hitting her in a parking lot or something and decided that you would be a good harassment target.
 
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Originally posted by: Hi
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Armoth
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Good job not leading psycho bitch to your house. You don't need redneck smack addicts who can't drive knowing where you live. :thumbsup::D

- M4H

Yeah, I thought she was going to hop out and get her mail too...it's a big neighborhood. So I'm glad for once that the mailboxes are away from the houses. The last thing I want to do is have to mess with getting a restraining order to keep some psycho away from my house.

Personally, if someone got on my ass in a car big enough to crush my puny little Civic, I'd be hightailing it the hell down to the police station.

"This crazy lady tailgated me the whole way here flashing her lights and honking at me! I think she might have a gun/bomb/anthrax/drugs!"

Then just sit back and watch the beatings. :D

- M4H


again with the ugly civic :p

That's not what you said when you spread yourself across the hood last night! :p

- M4H
 

TheLonelyPhoenix

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Feb 15, 2004
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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Hi
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Armoth
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Good job not leading psycho bitch to your house. You don't need redneck smack addicts who can't drive knowing where you live. :thumbsup::D

- M4H

Yeah, I thought she was going to hop out and get her mail too...it's a big neighborhood. So I'm glad for once that the mailboxes are away from the houses. The last thing I want to do is have to mess with getting a restraining order to keep some psycho away from my house.

Personally, if someone got on my ass in a car big enough to crush my puny little Civic, I'd be hightailing it the hell down to the police station.

"This crazy lady tailgated me the whole way here flashing her lights and honking at me! I think she might have a gun/bomb/anthrax/drugs!"

Then just sit back and watch the beatings. :D

- M4H


again with the ugly civic :p

That's not what you said when you spread yourself across the hood last night! :p

- M4H

Owned. :D
 

imported_Hi

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Feb 22, 2005
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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Hi
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Armoth
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Good job not leading psycho bitch to your house. You don't need redneck smack addicts who can't drive knowing where you live. :thumbsup::D

- M4H

Yeah, I thought she was going to hop out and get her mail too...it's a big neighborhood. So I'm glad for once that the mailboxes are away from the houses. The last thing I want to do is have to mess with getting a restraining order to keep some psycho away from my house.

Personally, if someone got on my ass in a car big enough to crush my puny little Civic, I'd be hightailing it the hell down to the police station.

"This crazy lady tailgated me the whole way here flashing her lights and honking at me! I think she might have a gun/bomb/anthrax/drugs!"

Then just sit back and watch the beatings. :D

- M4H


again with the ugly civic :p

That's not what you said when you spread yourself across the hood last night! :p

- M4H


i needed the money


:Q
 
Aug 26, 2004
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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Armoth
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
'M: That would mean you were on top of the Semi then... You were in the front of the Semi and there was a grayish white car behind you, and I saw you both pull into the shopping area.'


so you saw her and another car pull into the shopping area?

lol i am guessing that grayish white car is the one that hit her...he pulled in behind her and she then sped off in pursuit of you...lol crazy biatch

Yeah, who the heck knows what her problem was... It didn't even make sense and I couldn't reason with her since she was on crack. Maybe she's just sex deprived...

You did say she was a fat uggo. Maybe she wanted you to ... ahem ... "rear end" her.

- M4H

LMFAO...probably :D