Fallujah falls to Al Qaeda

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highland145

Lifer
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Not our problem. Thanks, Obama.
Not stopping you from buying a gun and going to Falluja to fight Al Qaeda, if you so desire.
Late to the game, sens, but no one is stopping you from sending your extra wealth to the IRS. You and Warren. They're in need.

Edit: Actually, with fraking, let them burn. 10,000 years of fighting and the US thinks they can fix it?....Sounds like the little head leading the big...Cut off their $$ and terrorists can blow up their on sheep instead of ours.
 

master_shake_

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1. set up the infrastructure and get everyone in iraq fiber,
2. get the nsa to spy on them and find some real terrorists
3. profit.
 
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MSM not covering this?


isn't Fox News part of mainstream media?

And it took about 30 seconds to google the links below.

http://abcnews.go.com/International...ah-watch-al-qaeda-make-back/story?id=21411639

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-03/al-qaeda-fighters-take-fallujah-as-iraqi-army-attacks.html

http://america.aljazeera.com/articl...ked-fightersiniraqpushdeeperintofallujah.html

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/01/04/al-qaeda-iraq-fallujah-ramadi/4317125/

And as I recall American troops left Iraq on a timetable set up by the Bush administration together with the Iraqi govt.

So, looks like you strike out on both issues.
 

compuwiz1

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MSM not covering this?


isn't Fox News part of mainstream media?

And it took about 30 seconds to google the links below.

http://abcnews.go.com/International...ah-watch-al-qaeda-make-back/story?id=21411639

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-03/al-qaeda-fighters-take-fallujah-as-iraqi-army-attacks.html

http://america.aljazeera.com/articl...ked-fightersiniraqpushdeeperintofallujah.html

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/01/04/al-qaeda-iraq-fallujah-ramadi/4317125/

And as I recall American troops left Iraq on a timetable set up by the Bush administration together with the Iraqi govt.

So, looks like you strike out on both issues.

They are covering it now. Not so much when I first posted.
 
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They are covering it now. Not so much when I first posted.

No, what you did was post the latest talking point from some right wing web site or email. It's been in the news for at least a day or two (and it only happened over the past couple of days).
 

ElFenix

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troll title is troll title.


?? Every one of those links is from before you posted. The first one is from a day earlier.

NYT was reporting it yesterday as well and was reporting about the fighting in the area several days ago.
 
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UberNeuman

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"Ladies and Gentleman: This Thread is about to crash-land in 30 seconds. Please return your trays into a upright position and pull down the oxygen mask that you'll find overhead and place it over your mouth and help those with you to do the same....

Thanks for flying FAILED airlines."
 

compuwiz1

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Tough crowd. I was at work and this was the first I found it. No intent but to post it for discussion. No troll intended....no matter what some of ya think. :D

Bitch idiot OP self ownage here

Ok, so I was. I stand corrected. My research was lazy prior to posting.
 
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UberNeuman

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Tough crowd. I was at work and this was the first I found it. No intent but to post it for discussion. No troll intended....no matter what some of ya think. :D

Plane going down...

\stand for what you believe, or don't pussy out when facts come to light....
\\hey, I'm just asking questions......
 

xj0hnx

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Except ACA will save lives instead of wasting them. Too bad Bush didn't use the Iraq war money to do it earlier. Tens of thousands of people could have been saved if he did.

BWAHAHAHA!!!! Riiiiiight. It's amazing how deluded you are.

It was a pointless waste. We destabilized Iraq and sacrificed our efforts in the only legitimate area of operation, Afghanistan. I'm no Obama fan, but the damage he may have done is trivial compared to Bush, who sent us backwards in so many ways that only decades passing will undo the harm. The sheer waste of it all is repulsive.

QFTMFT x100

Plane going down...

\stand for what you believe, or don't pussy out when facts come to light....
\\hey, I'm just asking questions......

So the guy admits he was wrong, which is something a lot of you progressive retards just don't have the balls to do, and you are still acting like a bitch to him? What a douche bag.
 

UberNeuman

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BWAHAHAHA!!!! Riiiiiight. It's amazing how deluded you are.



QFTMFT x100



So the guy admits he was wrong, which is something a lot of you progressive retards just don't have the balls to do, and you are still acting like a bitch to him? What a douche bag.

Don't like it when you and kind are called out - too fucking bad....


\and yes, I'm a massive douche bag....
 

bononos

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It was a pointless waste. We destabilized Iraq and sacrificed our efforts in the only legitimate area of operation, Afghanistan. I'm no Obama fan, but the damage he may have done is trivial compared to Bush, who sent us backwards in so many ways that only decades passing will undo the harm. The sheer waste of it all is repulsive.

Yes, it bizzare that there are still some hardcore defenders of the war who are spinning the disaster into a myth of how the US saved the world at the (small) cost of a few thousand lives (and maybe ten times that number in ptsd wrecks and basket cases). Iraq is now much worse off with a very bad economy and sectarian violence.
 

xj0hnx

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Don't like it when you and kind are called out - too fucking bad....


\and yes, I'm a massive douche bag....

You don't know what my "kind" is, and truthfully I probably have more in common with you politically than him, but you are pretty much just a useless tool that acts like a holier than thou dick head, flexing your keyboard commando machismo. Just a sad sack, bitter little boy crying for attention.
 
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xj0hnx

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Yes, it bizzare that there are still some hardcore defenders of the war who are spinning the disaster into a myth of how the US saved the world at the (small) cost of a few thousand lives (and maybe ten times that number in ptsd wrecks and basket cases). Iraq is now much worse off with a very bad economy and sectarian violence.

Come on now, they didn't have a good economy before we went in, at least now everyone is fucked instead of everyone that wasn't Saddam :p
 

UberNeuman

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You don't know what my "kind" is, and truthfully I probably have more in common with you politically than him, but you are pretty much just a useless tool that acts like a holier than thou dick head, flexing your keyboard commando machismo.

I doubt it. But thanks for playing...

\sometimes posting incorrect information should be singled out...
\\if you have a problem with that, then too bad...
\\\as for "holier than thou dick head", I'm just a fellow traveler on the intertubes... take it as you will..
 

xj0hnx

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I doubt it. But thanks for playing...

\sometimes posting incorrect information should be singled out...
\\if you have a problem with that, then too bad...
\\\as for "holier than thou dick head", I'm just a fellow traveler on the intertubes... take it as you will..

Yea well, what you know couldn't fill a thimble, so take it as you will.
 

MooseNSquirrel

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Bush had bigger problems on his plate than people who need to buy cell phones instead of pay for their insurance, he had a war to fight with people killing our civilians. Bush's fault was not that he fought the war, but how he managed it. Or, more specifically, how he managed the people managing it. He did a horrible job there.

The Dems and Obama have, and ultimately had, no such problems. Nearly all the hard decisions, progress/failure, capabilities, and cost had been done by Bush. What the Dems, after 2 years controlling Congress before Obama even was elected, and thus fully prepared for the incoming Messiah in terms of agenda, needed to do was pass UHC - nuke style. If that meant they had to go nuclear against some unwilling Dems that were more moderate, then really, so be it. They failed. They spectacularly failed. Their failure will (and really, already has) cost more lives than Iraq+Afghanistan ever cost us. It will dwarf that, by orders of magnitudes.

Comparing these two failures isn't even close: While Bush managed poorly and cost us a small few thousand military lives, plus $1-$3T depending how you look at it, the Dems and Bummer by their weakness and 'OMG lets pass something so Bummer will have an accomplishment and We'll look good too!' strategery have F'd our entire civilian population long term. Que the irony of the Thanks Obama! memes being applied here...

The dissonance...it is cognitive...
 

bononos

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Come on now, they didn't have a good economy before we went in, at least now everyone is fucked instead of everyone that wasn't Saddam :p

Iraq had one of the best economies in the middle east before Desert Storm 1. After that it was placed under UN embargo for a decade which sunk the economy. Then after Desert Storm 2, the US tried to turn Iraq into a free market experiment which made the economy worse.
 

UberNeuman

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Yea well, what you know couldn't fill a thimble, so take it as you will.

I take it quite well. Your overflow of anger I take better..
\it really doesn't have to be this way, y'know..
 
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Jhhnn

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Iraq had one of the best economies in the middle east before Desert Storm 1. After that it was placed under UN embargo for a decade which sunk the economy. Then after Desert Storm 2, the US tried to turn Iraq into a free market experiment which made the economy worse.

Well, yeh, right after we blasted their infrastructure to bits- bridges, roads, electricity, telecom, even drinking water & sewage disposal. Things start to turn primitive after enough bombs have landed. The whole point of the exercise has been to set back Iraq so they can't challenge our Israeli & Saudi friends, to balkanize their society into warring factions so they'll remain weak for the near future. The Saudis continue the effort by exporting & supporting Jihad throughout the islamic world. Feudal Monarchies traditionally stay on top by holding everybody else down, and, well, there you have it. Our pals!
 

Doppel

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Sounds like a great opportunity for neocons to exercise their right to bear arms, form a well regulated militia, and ship off to Fallujah. If Al Qaeda can do it, so can you.
This is a repeat of the post you made 21 minutes earlier. Of course it's a silly notion and unlike your claim in your earlier post, yes it would be illegal as well.

If this is a precursor to the rest of Iraq it just goes to prove that after the US topples a nation the only thing that can keep it "breathing" is a constant supply of US troops and money. Yet more evidence Iraq was the worst foreign policy blunder in decades by the United States. Blunder is a very, very kind word. If this were back in olden days those responsible would be charged with treason for the lies they told that got the US into this quagmire--not to mention the Iraqi lives cost (though it appears their lives are of no value to the national discourse here).

It's easy to pin this on Obama for political points and if things get worse people will, but overall it's probably wrong; I don't think a person here truly wanted the US to keep troops in Iraq until the end of time. At some point the birds have to be kicked from the nest. It just appears this one isn't flying very well. The worse Iraq gets the more we must hold Bush and those who endorsed his position responsible. That won't happen, though. Now he's comfortably retired and watching movies while people are slaughtered.

Our society is quite strange. Small things like an off-color joke can get somebody lambasted on the national stage and their career in tatters, but rank negligence leading to a catastrophic war and they still have millions of supporters.