Fallujah Battle

Perknose

Forum Director & Omnipotent Overlord
Forum Director
Oct 9, 1999
46,940
10,840
147
I'm listening on NPR radio right now (Terry Gross) to her interview with NYT reporter Dexter Philkins (sic), who was embedded with the Marines as they went into Fallujah last month.

His reports make the hair rise on the back of my neck, but they make me so very proud of the Corps, and of the United States of America.

No politics here right now for me, just my whole heart and soul going out to these brave, brave, brave young men.

Death Before Dishonor! :brokenheart:
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
58,686
3
0
http://www.npr.org/rundowns/ru...-Dec-2004&prgId=13

Embedded in Fallujah, Reporter Dexter Filkins

Filkins accompanied a Marine company for eight days in November as they conducted an offensive on Fallujah. He followed the Marines from the outskirts of the city into the maze of streets, dodging suicide bombers, waking at 1:30 a.m. to a rebel attack, and even sustaining the threat of friendly fire when the company was mistaken for rebels by U.S. troops.


WMA streaming audio
 

LongTimePCUser

Senior member
Jul 1, 2000
472
0
76
Heroic? They also went into a city, declared it a free fire zone and shot anyone who moved. They destroyed the power supplies, water supply and most of the homes and buildings. The first thing they did was to capture a hospital. They did that because too many civilian casualties were reported by the hospital the last time. Not this time. The did this to make sure that people would be allowed to register to vote, but no one has been allowed back. Were these war crimes? They were just following orders.
 

alchemize

Lifer
Mar 24, 2000
11,486
0
0
Originally posted by: LongTimePCUser
Heroic? They also went into a city, declared it a free fire zone and shot anyone who moved. They destroyed the power supplies, water supply and most of the homes and buildings. The first thing they did was to capture a hospital. They did that because too many civilian casualties were reported by the hospital the last time. Not this time. The did this to make sure that people would be allowed to register to vote, but no one has been allowed back. Were these war crimes? They were just following orders.

Bzzzt. I call BS. Please back up your statements if you are going to besmirch our good soldiers. It's the least we ask, a link from tinfoil-loonies.org or something.
 

BBond

Diamond Member
Oct 3, 2004
8,363
0
0
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: LongTimePCUser
Heroic? They also went into a city, declared it a free fire zone and shot anyone who moved. They destroyed the power supplies, water supply and most of the homes and buildings. The first thing they did was to capture a hospital. They did that because too many civilian casualties were reported by the hospital the last time. Not this time. The did this to make sure that people would be allowed to register to vote, but no one has been allowed back. Were these war crimes? They were just following orders.

Bzzzt. I call BS. Please back up your statements if you are going to besmirch our good soldiers. It's the least we ask, a link from tinfoil-loonies.org or something.

FALLUJAH NAPALMED

Destroyed Fallujah ?Uninhabitable?

US strikes raze Falluja hospital

'Unusual Weapons' Used in Fallujah

Fallujah 101

In the rubble of Falluja

U.S. probes shooting at Fallujah mosque

Just because the U.S. press refuses to report what is happening in Iraq doesn't mean it isn't happening. Americans aren't being told but the rest of the world is watching and we're failing the global test in Iraq.

 

alchemize

Lifer
Mar 24, 2000
11,486
0
0
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: LongTimePCUser
Heroic? They also went into a city, declared it a free fire zone and shot anyone who moved. They destroyed the power supplies, water supply and most of the homes and buildings. The first thing they did was to capture a hospital. They did that because too many civilian casualties were reported by the hospital the last time. Not this time. The did this to make sure that people would be allowed to register to vote, but no one has been allowed back. Were these war crimes? They were just following orders.

Bzzzt. I call BS. Please back up your statements if you are going to besmirch our good soldiers. It's the least we ask, a link from tinfoil-loonies.org or something.

FALLUJAH NAPALMED

Destroyed Fallujah ?Uninhabitable?

US strikes raze Falluja hospital

'Unusual Weapons' Used in Fallujah

Fallujah 101

In the rubble of Falluja

U.S. probes shooting at Fallujah mosque

Just because the U.S. press refuses to report what is happening in Iraq doesn't mean it isn't happening. Americans aren't being told but the rest of the world is watching and we're failing the global test in Iraq.

I don't see anything in those links that states the reason behind the military taking the hospital was because too many civilian casualties were reported by the hospital last time.

PS I notice you have a new sig there, BBond. Why, pray tell, do you have a link to that PDF talking about "Best Orthaganol Basis De-Noising", BOBDN?
 

BBond

Diamond Member
Oct 3, 2004
8,363
0
0
Originally posted by: alchemize

I don't see anything in those links that states the reason behind the military taking the hospital was because too many civilian casualties were reported by the hospital last time.

PS I notice you have a new sig there, BBond. Why, pray tell, do you have a link to that PDF talking about "Best Orthaganol Basis De-Noising", BOBDN?

Ozoned insists on calling me BOBDN so I Gooogled BOBDN to find out what it is and that's what I came up with. I found some other interesting information as well. ;)

600 Iraqis killed in Fallujah, hospital chief says

Okrent Looking Into 'NY Times' Calling Civilian Casualties 'Unconfirmed' or 'Inflated'

The issue resurfaced this month when, on the first day of the Fallujah offensive, U.S. and Iraqi troops' primary objective was to secure Fallujah General Hospital, which was labeled a "propaganda" machine against the United States and its allies and a refuge for insurgents. Troops burst in and tied up patients and doctors to make sure the compound was secure. The military charged that the civilian toll from the earlier offensive had been grossly inflated.