Fallout vegas looks like it will be good

[Jadow]

I liked Fallout 3, but thought the map was too small. As graphics get better, I've noticed the maps on games are getting smaller.

I would sacrifice graphics for bigger maps.

I remember in Daggerfall when if you started on the far west edge and walked east, it would take over an hour to get to the other side.

I could hoof it across fallout 3 in about 4 min.

 

[AlgaeEater]

I'm happy and a bit sad the game is using the same engine. This should be the last game... well ever to use this engine I hope. It's not a bad engine, but it's just long in the tooth and overdue now considering it's 2010 (halfway through it already as well, can you believe it?)

Modders (who really bring so much life into the game on your 2nd, 3rd, 108th run etc) will be eleated to hear it's still using the same engine. It's amazing what people have been able to create over the years, with some mods completely changing the way the game works. If you haven't played Fallout 3 with "Wanderer Edition" mod, you haven't played a really awesome game changing mod for Fallout 3. It's literally like a new game, similar to Obscuro's Oblivion Overhaul for Oblivion.

For the curious:
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2761

In any case I'll be picking up New Vegas on launch date for sure.

 

[Duwelon]

Why the hate on the engine? It makes gorgeous scenery and the load times are just fantastic, as is the massive world it generates. Personally I hate any engine that has "levels", I don't think there's a better engine on the market today that would work better.

Now TES:V has better look pretty damn good compared to oblivion, but I bet Bethesda is having a hard time making it look better for console.

Since i'm rambling anyways, let me just say how the engine and the size of the grids makes you feel so small when you first get in. As the hours count up of being in the game, the world inevitably shrink down, so to speak, but no other game, not even Vanguard with it's massive zones have captured that sheer feeling of being in such a massive place before. Maybe EQ in the Karana's lol.

I say, keep the engine, add new graphics features for PC's and focus on the story / amount of content since IMO, they got the quality of the graphics pretty darn good already.

 

[CP5670]

This game sounds nteresting. Fallout 3 was excellent. The main quest became forgettable towards the end, but the numerous side quests were great and you could spend a long time just going through those. The gameplay was fairly nonlinear as well and reminded me a lot of Deus Ex.

The engine was a definite annoyance though. You had the choice of playing the game with microstuttering and crashes (the default), or stability and smoothness but a variable game speed that changed with the framerate. I took the latter option, although that made combat harder early on since the game often went at double speed in fights.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

Why the hate on the engine? It makes gorgeous scenery and the load times are just fantastic, as is the massive world it generates. Personally I hate any engine that has "levels", I don't think there's a better engine on the market today that would work better.

what? of course it has levels. every map's level is matched to your own the first time you enter it, which is crap imo.

 

[QueBert]

Why the hate on the engine? It makes gorgeous scenery and the load times are just fantastic, as is the massive world it generates. Personally I hate any engine that has "levels", I don't think there's a better engine on the market today that would work better.

It generates massive boring ass levels, FO:3 was like 90% nothing but dirt and wasteland with some tore up buildings throw in. Oblivion was even worse. GTA:IV's engine looks better and has much more stuff going on. I remember Oblivion & FO:3 having plenty of loading, GTA IV has no loading. For a game with less shit happening all the time the GTA engine would be perfect.

 

[BoberFett]

Fallout 3 is one of the best games I've ever played. I fully look forward to Vegas.

 

[child of wonder]

I really liked Fallout 3 but I think my attention span is way too short to truly enjoy the game. Usually after an hour or so in I just put in cheat codes and start killing everything.

Still, will give this one a try, too.

 

[Maximilian]

Anyone ever killed fawkes on fallout 3 with the broken steel expansion installed?

After i installed broken steel dogmeat seemed to level with me, he can tank two deathclaws easily and he killed everyone in the citadel himself basically, it took about 2-3k worth of electron charges from my precision laser gatling canon to put him down lol. So i tried to kill fawkes to see if other followers levelled up too and killing that bastard is insane! Hes got a laser gatling cannon and tons of HP, mini nukes to the side of the head dont even take off a health bar.... I never manged it i gave up and ran off.

 

[AlgaeEater]

Anyone ever killed fawkes on fallout 3 with the broken steel expansion installed?

After i installed broken steel dogmeat seemed to level with me, he can tank two deathclaws easily and he killed everyone in the citadel himself basically, it took about 2-3k worth of electron charges from my precision laser gatling canon to put him down lol. So i tried to kill fawkes to see if other followers levelled up too and killing that bastard is insane! Hes got a laser gatling cannon and tons of HP, mini nukes to the side of the head dont even take off a health bar.... I never manged it i gave up and ran off.

Yeah they went a bit overboard - too late in my opinion. When I use to play vanilla Fallout 3 when it was released - seeing "Dogmeat has Died" was like every single encounter. I just eventually left him back at Megaton. Now they use the same leveling table as enemy NPC's do + random bonuses I can't find in detail. So their base HP / DR is about the same as a Yao Guai I believe, but their damage is still based off the weapon you give them (if at all)

Oh if you also find Fallout 3 to be too easy, rank up the difficulty to Very Hard and Install Mart's Mutant Mod. It's a simple mod that multiplies the enemies that spawn, so the game still feels "genuine".

http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=3211

Nothing like staring down 17 Enclave Soldiers and 7 Deathclaws all screaming and shooting at you at once

 

[VashHT]

I liked the atmosphere and the world in FO3, but I could never get into the combat. I hope it's better in this one, but I'll still buy it to play it anyway.

 

[Modular]

I liked fallout 3 and thought that while parts of the story were lacking, the gameplay and atmosphere were still fun. Granted, I didn't explore the whole world (nor did I really feel compelled to) but, part of that was because I felt that the world itself was a little redundant.

Aside from that, I never had the game crash. Not one single time...

 

[ibex333]

Fallout 3 was fantastic and this looks to be more of the same but set in vegas with a different storyline which is exactly what i would want from another fallout game, keep everything the same and make minor improvements etc why fix what isn't broken eh Anyone else looking forward to this?

I agree. No need to fix it if it ain't broke! Fallout 3 was perfect IMHO. I spent countless hours on it beating it several times and every expansion that came with it. Too bad Mothership Zeta was glitched and got stuck every time at final space battle scene.. : (

I am really looking forward to Vegas. It will be great.

 

[disappoint]

If Fallout: NV is as much of an improvement as Fallout 3 was over Oblivious I'm gonna need a drool busket.

Yes, you have a Benz, and I have a busket.

 

[VulgarDisplay]

I liked fallout 3 and thought that while parts of the story were lacking, the gameplay and atmosphere were still fun. Granted, I didn't explore the whole world (nor did I really feel compelled to) but, part of that was because I felt that the world itself was a little redundant.

Aside from that, I never had the game crash. Not one single time...

If your game never crashed then you most likely didn't use VATS. VATS is what caused about 98% of the crashing in the game.

 

[sandorski]

If your game never crashed then you most likely didn't use VATS. VATS is what caused about 98% of the crashing in the game.

I seldom used VATS, but that never Crashed the game for me. I don't recall anything specifically Crashing the game, it just seemed to happen randomly. I learned to Save a lot and that seemed avoid Crashes, certainly cut down on frustration if/when Crashes occurred.

 

[Skurge]

Fallout 3 was good, but I just got fed up with the crashing and freezing. I liked mass effect much better, but that wasn't a pillar of stability either.

I Loved Oblivion, Played through it 3-4 times

But once again, Im loving dragon age more ATM

 

[simonizor]

I never had any problems with crashing, really. Maybe a couple of times, but not excessively. It could be because I use Fallout Mod Manager to launch Fallout 3 and select which DLC to load instead of using the default launcher.

 

[Maximilian]

I fixed my random crashes by editing a .ini file, doing this specifically:

http://www.pdsys.org/blog/post/2009/02/07/Fallout-3-VideoDisplay-Freezes-sound-keeps-going.aspx

Now it never freezes anymore. Its limited to 2 cores now but still runs fine. It will still screw up when minimized though, its not really crashing but it fails to maximize again, its like it tries but ends up somewhere off the screen or something.

 

[TwinsenTacquito]

Oblivion was dumbed down Morrowind. Fallout 3 was dumbed down Oblivion.

But hey, all three were good. They're just not all Morrowind good.

 

[chubbyfatazn]

FO3 has never crashed on me, and I've played it for 115 hours (according to Steam).

For the last quarter of those 115 hours I just enabled god mode and used VATS for 99% of my shots (even close range, just to see the little death animations).

Anyway, I'm going to be buying this at or soon after release. First time since GTA4 I'll be buying a game that soon.

 

[nitromullet]

anyone else a little less than wowed by the screen shots released so far?

http://fallout.bethsoft.com/eng/art/fnv-screenshots1.html

 

[zerocool84]

anyone else a little less than wowed by the screen shots released so far?

http://fallout.bethsoft.com/eng/art/fnv-screenshots1.html

Looks almost exactly like Fallout 3. I don't understand how anyone could say Fallout 3 looked good. It was ugly and the textures were ugly. This game looks like it is slightly tweaked but the textures are still ugly as hell.

 

[Zenoth]

It's not a surprised, it's the same engine (with perhaps a few "enhancements" thrown in from Fallout 3's version), and like always before the modding community will fix the blurry and low resolution textures issue, but in the end it's still the same engine, it will crash endlessly on many hardware configs and the technical support forums for the PC version will be filled with complaints, you can safely mark my words, history will just repeat itself. Maybe that the game in itself, in its core will be "better" than Fallout 3 was, that's a possibility, by that I mean that maybe the dialog will be better, maybe the scripted scenes will play very well, maybe the ending won't suck, maybe the music will be good and fitting... and so on, but it's still running under the same frustratingly old and fragile engine.

 

[simonizor]

Looks almost exactly like Fallout 3. I don't understand how anyone could say Fallout 3 looked good. It was ugly and the textures were ugly. This game looks like it is slightly tweaked but the textures are still ugly as hell.

What the hell do you expect the US to look like after it's been nuked? It's ugly, desolate, and grungy on purpose. I think they did a great job making it look like DC had been nuked.