Fallon is a better late night host than Conan will ever be.

Ns1

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Conan had Triumph but that's pretty much where his hilarity ended. I could only take that marionette cutting routine so many times before I wanted to punch myself in the face. Seriously, is that guy's show still on? How's it doing?

Jimmy Fallon, you the fucking man.

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Somehow, another NBC late-night transition has turned into a public drama. And this time, the two hosts involved are not even feuding. The network has found itself in a groundswell of speculation surrounding The Tonight Show host Jay Leno and Late Night‘s Jimmy Fallon. The network is staying mum on its plans, but a few things appear settled: Fallon is poised to replace Leno on The Tonight Show. When he does, he is not expected to copy his predecessor Conan O’Brien’s cross-country move from New York to Los Angeles. I hear Fallon and his producers had been lobbying for staying put in New York. Fallon’s current studio is being renovated, which sources say was part of a planned refurbishing of 30 Rock, and it will likely house the future Tonight Show With Jimmy Fallon. Leno’s current contract, which is up in September 2014, will likely be late-night host’s last one. In an interview with GQ, Late Night executive producer Lorne Michaels also hinted at the inevitability of Fallon’s anointment as new Tonight host. “I’m not allowed to say it — yet,” he said. “But I think there’s an inevitability to it,” He added: “He’s the closest to Carson that I’ve seen of this generation.”

With the players and the framework set, the biggest uncertainty in the transition appears to be the exact timing. There is speculation that NBC brass may have settled on an end date for Leno and that Leno and Fallon, who regularly chat on the phone, have discussed the issue — though all sides are denying that there is a plan in place. For now, sources at NBC indicate that the network has no plans to announce Leno’s Tonight exit at NBC’s upfront presentation in May,though the rampant speculation may force their hand in the decision-making. An announcement of Leno’s retirement is tied with the introduction of Fallon as new Tonight host, something he has not been contracted for yet. I hear NBC has not started or is in very early stages of making Fallon’s deal for The Tonight Show.

Additionally, NBC is expected to give a final-season send-off for Leno, who continues to deliver for the network. Despite NBC’s bad shape in primetime — finishing fifth in the February sweep among adults 18-49 — and the buzz surrounding ABC’s 11:35 PM newcomer Jimmy Kimmel, Leno won the sweep decisively in both 18-49 and total viewers. And despite a series of jabs at NBC’s woes by Leno on The Tonight Show that led to emails of disapproval from NBC topper Bob Greenblatt, the two appear to be on good terms and are reportedly dining together this week. Also needed for a Tonight transition is a replacement for Fallon. While I hear potential candidates have been pitched (Howard Stern also recently threw his name in the ring), NBC executives are not taking official meetings yet. Of course, there are the potential internal candidates that had long been rumored about, like Saturday Night Live‘s Seth Meyers, who would follow in the footsteps of Fallon, also a former Weekend Update host; or E!’s Chelsea Handler.

As for Fallon, he tries not to get wrapped up in all the speculation. “It would be great, sure, I guess,” he told GQ about hosting Tonight. “I’d love it, but it’s not on my mind.”
 

Farang

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As big of a Conan fan as I've been I do think this probably worked out better for NBC. Fallon has more mainstream popularity, I mean can you imagine the President ever appearing on Late Night with Conan? Conan couldn't even get him when he had the Tonight Show, Obama would always go on Letterman.
 
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jimmy fallon when he first started was cringeworthy. that guy couldn't string a few coherent sentences together.
 

fustercluck

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You are trolling for sure!

Conan is light years ahead of where Fallon will ever be. Fallon will never be anywhere near as good as Conan. Fallon is nice, show is pretty awful, roots are awesome :)
 

Ns1

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You are trolling for sure!

Conan is light years ahead of where Fallon will ever be. Fallon will never be anywhere near as good as Conan. Fallon is nice, show is pretty awful, roots are awesome :)

No. Conan sucks. I mean he's better than Leno but he ain't no Fallon.
 

fustercluck

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No. Conan sucks. I mean he's better than Leno but he ain't no Fallon.

"Conan ain't no Fallon"

The first time anyone ever has said such a thing!

Kinda like saying "Johnny Carson was ok, but he ain't no Carson Daily!"

Ahh I kid. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Just all I can think when someone says "Conan will never be good as Fallon" is THAT IS STRAIGHT UP BLASPHEMY, SIR!
 

chalmers

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I don't think I've ever seen a late night show in full. I don't see the appeal in them.
 
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Conan is a great writer but I have never warmed to him as a host at all. Personally I think Kimmel is the best current late-night host. Letterman was awesome 20 years ago, but that ship has sailed. Leno is a tremendously gifted standup comic, but a total sellout and boring as a host. I think Fallon and Kimmel are both very good. Fallon is a tremendous talent but I really like Kimmel's comic sensibility.
 

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Conan on Late Night was the best. He lost something when he went to TBS, I never watch it now. The times I tried to watch it, I didn't find anything funny. Same thing happened to Letterman, too. Something about the 1230 spot that makes people funny. But I have never watched an episode of Fallon. I know his stick from SNL, not really interested in him.
 

Farang

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Conan on Late Night was the best. He lost something when he went to TBS, I never watch it now. The times I tried to watch it, I didn't find anything funny. Same thing happened to Letterman, too. Something about the 1230 spot that makes people funny. But I have never watched an episode of Fallon. I know his stick from SNL, not really interested in him.

I agree with you on Conan but can't really find the reason. Maybe Richter? He doesn't offer much to me. Late Night was my favorite show and I followed up to the Tonight Show as well. I still watch him now and then but he is more of a 3rd tier for me behind Stewart/Colbert.

Letterman is the best on-his-feet comic out there I think. I don't watch him regularly because his best stuff usually just comes in highlights that you can find later.

I don't know if I've even watched a full episode with Fallon but I see his appeal and he makes more sense as the Tonight Show host. He won't have the same cult appeal but neither did Leno.
 

chalmers

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I never understood how these shows have great ratings. Who stays up that late to watch tv during the week? I guess DVR counts towards ratings?
 
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I'm not a Fallon fan at all. The main reason he's taken off is that he's able to get a lot more of the younger set which means better eye candy and vaguely more interesting music and he does tech stuff.

I honestly don't know why Conan was so adamant about doing a talk show (well I do, he did it for the "small people") as he'd do better going back to writing and/or minor movie roles.

I never understood how these shows have great ratings. Who stays up that late to watch tv during the week? I guess DVR counts towards ratings?

I don't either. The best talk shows are still shit. Some are bearable for a watch now and then but most (basically all of the ones on now) are just at best background noise.

Then again I don't understand the people that watch SNL.

Anything worth seeing on any of these will be made into clips that you'll see all over the place the next day (or even later that night really).
 

Ns1

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I never understood how these shows have great ratings. Who stays up that late to watch tv during the week? I guess DVR counts towards ratings?

No cable + up at 1130 = late night is the best thing on tv.
 

BudAshes

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If I'm going to watch some late night I would go Conan>Kimmel>Ferguson. The other guys are unwatchable for me. How come all the hosts are white guys btw?
 

QueBert

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Falon's not funny to me, but his band's fucking awesome and he to love rap music.
 
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dbk

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Fallon's show gives me a mini-SNL vibe.. their skits are hilarious! The band is good. However, Fallon is a terrible interviewer. I watch it for the skits!

Conan's a better interviewer, imo.

Ferguson is hilarious.. very natural.. his jokes are hilarious!
 
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Arkaign

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craig ferguson > all

I like him quite a lot as well.

I think Fallon is pretty good too, he was pretty terrible at first, but he's come a long way, and he has a good vibe/energy to him that makes him a great host. Conan is good, but a little too quirky to be mainstream like Carson/Leno. Letterman and Kimmel both seem like total dicks to me, and I don't get their appeal at all. Leno isn't that funny, but he's affable and a fairly good host in most respects. I think Fallon will be a legit replacement for him that can manage the show well, Leno should enjoy his retirement and get back to the occasional standup if he feels like it. Conan should keep being Conan, he's at his best when he's not trying to change (his normalized presence on the Tonight Show for the first few weeks was awful). And Letterman and Kimmel can continue to be dickheads, that's what they do, and some people like it.
 

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fallon is as bad as conan. I tried watching him but he is just not funny. I like kimmel, jay, letterman.