Fall of the Republic

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I like this :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Israel

The Israeli economy withstood the late-2000s recession, registering positive GDP growth in 2009 and ending the decade with an unemployment rate lower than that of many western countries.[1] There are several reasons behind this economic resilience, for example, the fact, as stated above, that the country is a net lender rather than a borrower nation and the government and the Bank of Israel's generally conservative macro-economic policies. Two policies in particular can be cited, one is the refusal of the government to succumb to pressure by the banks to appropriate large sums of public money to aid them early in the crisis, thus limiting their risky behavior. The second is the implementation of the recommendations of the Bach'ar commission in the early to mid-2000s which recommended decoupling the banks' depository and investment banking activities, contrary to the then-opposite trend, particularly in the United States, of easing such restrictions which had the effect of encouraging more risk-taking in the financial systems of those countries.[25]

Smart people indeed.
 
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I have to add this :

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/ae7a14ec-0e...-0e7c-11e0-b9f1-00144feabdc0.html&_i_referer=


http://www.z24.nl/analyse/artikel_1...achs_stays_upright__The_Financial_Times_.html

The credit crisis showed many banks to be houses of cards. Goldman Sachs, on the other hand, looks more like a self-righting toy.

The meltdown itself barely nudged it from upright. The public indignation when it received $12.9bn of taxpayer money from the government’s AIG bailout knocked it sidewise for a moment, but the details were too complicated to cause much damage.

A potentially fatal blow – the death of investment banking under the crushing hand of regulation – never materialised.

But early this year Goldman was left reeling by a punch from an entirely new direction. On April 16th, the Securities and Exchange Commission charged Goldman and one of its vice presidents with "defrauding investors by misstating and omitting key facts about a financial product tied to subprime mortgages".

Goldman’s share price fell 13 per cent on the day and over the next two months underperformed the broader market by almost a fifth.

Accusation
Goldman was accused of withholding "vital information" about a synthetic collateralised debt obligation - in particular that clients on the other side of the deal had a big role in the design of the product and were betting that it would fall in value.

For many observers, the accusation was damning for an industry supposedly based on helping clients. But Goldman said banking was a game for consenting adults and its role was more akin to matchmaking.

Many expected Goldman to lose clients and business after this reputational hit. CEO Lloyd Blankfein was under pressure to quit. But it ended up by just admitting a "mistake", and settled by paying $550m, a mere 3 per cent of last year’s expense on compensation and benefits. By December, Goldman’s share price had made up all the ground it lost to the rest of the financial sector after the SEC action. The toy stays upright.

Copyrights Financial Times Limited 2010

Now does this not read as familiar ?

Remember this text and settling by paying a small amount of money :

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-great-american-bubble-machine-20100405
 
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I think what the confused Mr jones does not see is reflected here :

The CO2 debacle is a separate issue of scientists who want their 15 minutes of fame and politicans who see a possible new market.

A lot of separate situations. Conservatist republicans that protect their almost aristocrat wealth. Republicans who have an blind Ayn Rand view next to democrats who have a blind Ayn Rand view.
Democrats that want to be rich too but think the wealth can be spread evenly without a mentality change. Eternal struggles about legislations and laws. And AIPAC shaping the view of the US people about the ME. If you mix these basic forces together with the incidental situations you get what you have today.

To mention something funny, Carter Glass and Henry Steagall where both democrats. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass–Steagall_Act

Here are some fragments of the documentary israel lobby :
These fragments reflect what anybody interested should see :

suppression of people by fear and abuse of religion used by religious people as John Hagee to force senators, representatives and common citizens to not speak negative against Israel :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N294FMDok98#t=11m34s

How about removing the liberty of free speech throug the use of fear by AIPAC connected individuals :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N294FMDok98#t=19m50s

Who do i see at these meetings:
George W Bush.
Dick Cheney.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N294FMDok98#t=25m35s

From Illinois ,Barack Obama.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N294FMDok98#t=26m21s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N294FMDok98#t=32m46s

Colin Powell.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N294FMDok98#t=31m40s

Bill Clinton.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N294FMDok98#t=31m43s

Nancy Pelosi.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N294FMDok98#t=31m47s

Richard Pearle admitting that any one who is negative against Israel will never be elected again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N294FMDok98#t=31m53s

The reason why the US would never have withdrawn from the wars even under Obama is because of the AIPAC, A speech by neo conservatist Dick Cheney :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N294FMDok98#t=33m12s



I think it is a bit clearer now what is the problem of the US.
Your constitution is used against you.

And same documentary complete.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N294FMDok98


EDIT:

The effects of stress on the people of the US :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtjU0-dOTLM#t=1m17s
 
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Zebo

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Very good video wyvrn. Hits all the key points of what's coming.

Unfortunately people latch on to bigotry and party and won't ever notice what happened even after it happens. We will end up with fascism or communism depending who wins when SHTF instead of stable middle bottom up prosperity model West has usually practiced.. All you can do is prepare for inevitable.

If young I'd GTFO of USA and move to Oceania or some EU countries. Will hit there but much later. If you decide to stay I'd live rural and get involved with your police or be police. You will be insulated or an enforcer either way.

In other words - stop worrying nothing you can do about it but prepare. Just knowing about it puts you far far ahead of those who will be caught flat footed and empty handed.
 
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Jews, Goldman (jews), and more Jews. Doesn't this BS get old?

Can you stop generalizing, please. Why is it always when some people who may or not may have a Jewish background (The bank is called Goldman Sachs after it's founders more then a century ago and besides, do you personally know all employees ?), do some bad things that immediately you assume all people with a Jewish background have something to do with it. Why can every other ethnicity have criminals accept for Jewish people. All of a sudden all Jewish people are responsible for the act of a few ? When are you people going to use your brain ? Indeed this is getting kind of old.
 

wyvrn

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Very good video. And although it is a bit conspiracy theory-ist, it is filled with enough fact to make it worth watching.

Ive had this linked in my sig for about 6 months and have recommended people watch it when they complain about various banking injustices.

Bingo. Losts of drama, but if you can get past that, the information is solid.
 

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Jews, Goldman (jews), and more Jews. Doesn't this BS get old?

I don't think it mentions Jews. I think it does take on the banks, many of which do not have Jewish families running them. So your response might have had a generalization in it, but the video doesn't.
 

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I don't think it mentions Jews. I think it does take on the banks, many of which do not have Jewish families running them. So your response might have had a generalization in it, but the video doesn't.

The video is full of shit and is alarmist with no solid information backing it. Nice bump of a stupid thread.