Falklands War part 2?

[WelshBloke]

So childishly dull.

Faintly amusing though.

 

[Veliko]

The Argentinians have currently left open the civilian air link. However, these are non-militaristic options.

If the UK cannot even support these colonies, then it should be given to those who can make efficient use of them.

Militaristic or not the Argentinian actions are still aggressive. They are attempting to artificially make it hard for the islanders to support themselves.

 

[CanOWorms]

Militaristic or not the Argentinian actions are still aggressive. They are attempting to artificially make it hard for the islanders to support themselves.

The UK is trying to artificially support the islands. If they cannot support it from the UK or on its own, then why should they keep such a colony?

The mere UK presence in the Malvinas is viewed as aggressive.

 

[Veliko]

The UK is trying to artificially support the islands. If they cannot support it from the UK or on its own, then why should they keep such a colony?

What an utterly meaningless thing to say. It's like saying the US is artificially supporting Alaska.

The mere UK presence in the Malvinas is viewed as aggressive.

What definition of aggressive are you using here?

 

[WelshBloke]

I bet that they would because that would be so costly to the UK that they would almost certainly surrender the Malvinas.

I guarantee they wouldn't.


They have the ships and manpower already its not like we dont have to pay for them just because they aren't in the Falklands.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Militaristic or not the Argentinian actions are still aggressive. They are attempting to artificially make it hard for the islanders to support themselves.

The Malvinas being unsustainable for the UK is a direct consequence of the Malvinas having no real connection to the UK.

Economic and diplomatic acts of the type that Argentina is undertaking and will hopefully further enact are not very aggressive at all. If these simple acts make the Malvinas completely economically nonviable for the UK, then that's just a further argument to show that the Malvinas has no business belonging to the UK.

The entire continent is basically with Argentina on this anyways. Eventually, not only will the Malvinas themselves be economically difficult to maintain, but trade relations with the booming economies of South America may very well be cut off to the UK.

 

[RabidMongoose]

I guarantee they wouldn't.


They have the ships and manpower already its not like we dont have to pay for them just because they aren't in the Falklands.

The UK could barely even project force in Libya. They don't have enough to maintain the Malvinas on their own, IMO. The cost would be incredible, especially for the troubled UK economy to handle.

If the UK is spending more than it can actually make from the Malvinas, then they will most likely surrender it. Argentina is completely outsmarting the UK here by going with the diplomatic and economic route.

 

[Veliko]

The pathological hatred that Mongoose and Worms have (or claim to have for notoriety purposes) for the UK would be hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic and tragic.

 

[CanOWorms]

What an utterly meaningless thing to say. It's like saying the US is artificially supporting Alaska.

What definition of aggressive are you using here?

Militantly menacing.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Please try to stay on topic and refrain from personal attacks. I don't have a hatred of the UK. I would appreciate it if you did not intentionally misrepresent me since you are being intellectually dishonest, which is against the rules in this forum.

 

[WelshBloke]

The UK could barely even project force in Libya. They don't have enough to maintain the Malvinas on their own, IMO. The cost would be incredible, especially for the troubled UK economy to handle.

If the UK is spending more than it can actually make from the Malvinas, then they will most likely surrender it. Argentina is completely outsmarting the UK here by going with the diplomatic and economic route.

There are already enough forces to keep the islands safe from Argentinian aggression. There has been for 30 odd years and the cost hasn't been an issue at all so far.

 

[Veliko]

Militantly menacing.

You don't appear to actually understand what militant means. The Argentinians are being far more militant than the UK is.

 

[CanOWorms]

The pathological hatred that Mongoose and Worms have (or claim to have for notoriety purposes) for the UK would be hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic and tragic.

I don't hate the UK. I hate many of their policies. I also hate their Empire. However, that is common in the world.

I can just as easily state that the pathological love that many have for the UK would be hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic and tragic.

 

[Veliko]

Please try to stay on topic and refrain from personal attacks. I don't have a hatred of the UK. I would appreciate it if you did not intentionally misrepresent me since you are being intellectually dishonest, which is against the rules in this forum.

You quite clearly do.

 

[CanOWorms]

You don't appear to actually understand what militant means. The Argentinians are being far more militant than the UK is.

Please define "understand."

I disagree. The Argentinians have repeatedly stressed that they seek a peaceful resolution. The UK's answer has been further militarization of the South Atlantic.

 

[WelshBloke]

Militantly menacing.

How are we menacing?


Do you believe the UK is going to attack the Argentinian mainland?

 

[Veliko]

Please define "understand."

I disagree. The Argentinians have repeatedly stressed that they seek a peaceful resolution. The UK's answer has been further militarization of the South Atlantic.

This merely serves to prove my point.

You can be militant about seeking alleged peaceful resolution.

 

[RabidMongoose]

There are already enough forces to keep the islands safe from Argentinian aggression. There has been for 30 odd years and the cost hasn't been an issue at all so far.

You misunderstand. It's not about keeping the Malvinas safe. It's about forcing the UK to spend resources on the Malvinas and sacrifice economic opportunity with the booming South American economies.

If the UK focuses on the Malvinas, then they'll have nothing else that they can do. They could barely project force in Libya. To project any meaningful force from the UK to the Malvinas would cost a tremendous amount of money and be the most significant focus of the UK. It would be draining. Maybe thats what Argentina would want the UK to do at this point, keep spending money on the Malvinas until they become economically unviable.

 

[MotF Bane]

How are we menacing?


Do you believe the UK is going to attack the Argentinian mainland?

It seems to these two that Britain putting forth military forces to defend their own territory is "aggressive militarization".

 

[CanOWorms]

How are we menacing?

You don't think further militarization of the South Atlantic with advanced weapons and nuclear missiles is menacing?

Do you believe the UK is going to attack the Argentinian mainland?

I don't think a full-scale war is going to break out.

 

[RabidMongoose]

You quite clearly do.

Again, please don't lie.

 

[WelshBloke]

You misunderstand. It's not about keeping the Malvinas safe. It's about forcing the UK to spend resources on the Malvinas and sacrifice economic opportunity with the booming South American economies.

If the UK focuses on the Malvinas, then they'll have nothing else that they can do. They could barely project force in Libya. To project any meaningful force from the UK to the Malvinas would cost a tremendous amount of money and be the most significant focus of the UK. It would be draining. Maybe thats what Argentina would want the UK to do at this point, keep spending money on the Malvinas until they become economically unviable.

Which do you think the UK gov would do if they had to make a choice? Help out in Libya or defend its own territory?

 

[WelshBloke]

You don't think further militarization of the South Atlantic with advanced weapons and nuclear missiles is menacing?



I don't think a full-scale war is going to break out.

So given that we aren't going to attack anyone that isn't going to attack us how are we menacing anyone?

 

[Infohawk]

I also find it strange that Worms and Mongoose are so avidly against Britain sending any military assets to defend British territory as it is aggressive, yet so ardently proud of the Argentinians using passive-aggressive measures like economically starving the islanders.

When it comes to the UK, it's not just about passive-aggressive measures. Cow, for example, has said the time is now to attack the UK to stop genocide (this somehow was relevant to the UK oil spill). Doesn't make a lot of sense for a variety of reasons but his desires are violent.

 

[CanOWorms]

When it comes to the UK, it's not just about passive-aggressive measures. Cow, for example, has said the time is now to attack the UK to stop genocide (this somehow was relevant to the UK oil spill). Doesn't make a lot of sense for a variety of reasons but his desires are violent.

Please stop with your constant derailings. You were also warned on misrepresentation earlier.