Fake Intel Core2Duo?

Tempered81

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its oem for 220 plus ship.

E3110 Xeon (e8400 in business casual) is 187.00 - 7.99 w/ Google checkout @ Tankguys.com

 

nitromullet

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Originally posted by: shabby
Originally posted by: Googer
After a little google searching, I found a tomshardware thread. It's a tiger direct OEM repackage.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/217350-28-dollar

Its basically a returned cpu that tigerdirect repackages, i'd stay faaaaaaaar away.

From TigerDirect's site:

PLEASE NOTE: We only sell NEW processors purchased direct from the manufacturer or from factory authorized distributors. We will never sell a "pull" (which is a CPU removed from an assembled system at some manufacturing plant) or a used processor as other online vendors do without telling you. We are the largest CPU reseller in the Country, we offer the lowest prices in the industry on processors because we deal in such great volume. If you are comparing our price against another site with a much lower price, you are probably buying returns or pulls. Only accept genuine quality, buy from Us.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/app...DUO-Q9300#content_1600

They are a big enough company to where they would get sued to hell and back if they had a disclaimer like that and sold returns as new.
 

myocardia

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Originally posted by: tutelary
calling tiger-direct shady is absurd.

They're a bit shadier than newegg/ZipZoomFly/ClubIT, however, he was calling the fleabay e-tailer shady, not TigerDirect.
 

jaqie

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Originally posted by: Googer
Just doesn't look like Intel packaging.
That's the exact same style of box I got my OEM seagate 7200.10 320GB when I bought it from the local tigerdirect brick&mortar outlet, I just about guarantee it came from a tigerdirect outlet.
 

Jessica69

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Originally posted by: myocardia


They're a bit shadier than newegg/ZipZoomFly/ClubIT,

PUH-LEEZE! That comment just has to be one of the stupidest ones I've heard on this board in quite a while....and that's going pretty far. TD is no shadier than any other online etailer.....maybe more honest in some ways, compared to one in particular.

True, TD had their rebate fiasco a couple of years ago and got it taken to them over it, and rightly so. But these days, TD's rebate process is one of the quickest around...probably stemming from their fiasco....

Outside of the rebate crap, TD is no better or worse than 'Egg, ZZF, or anyone else. I'd almost say TD's pricing, while sometimes not the cheapest, is at least consistent, something Newegg cannot claim with a straight face.

We're all quite familiar with NE's "dynamic pricing" software and model......yet we seem to completely forgive NE for jacking up prices, sometimes minute by minute, on highly popular items.....while other sellers keep a consistent price day-to-day.

NE's prices remind me of gas prices.....popular item has price increases quickly and dramatically.....yet are painfully slow to drop when the sales drop.


Of course, you can also contrast NE's and TD's business models....NE is online and warehouse only while TD actually has retail stores in addition to its online presence. Yep..pretty shady to me....having real stores.


As for the packaging in the ebay ad....it's an OEM product w/TD's antistatic packaging. I've purchased several OEM things from TD over the years.....and they all come in that sort of packaging. RAM, cpus, etc. What would you expect the damned tray cpu to come in......a padded envelope? Tray cpus don't have "Intel packaging" to come out of, outside of the tray itself, so TD has to pack it in something. Sounds like none of you have ever bought an OEM cpu from anyone at all.......


On, and thanks Zap.....hadn't realized Newegg had finally matched prices on Q6600 cpus with Microcenter, which has had that price now for over 2 months.......
 

alfa147x

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Originally posted by: Jessica69
Originally posted by: myocardia


They're a bit shadier than newegg/ZipZoomFly/ClubIT,

PUH-LEEZE! That comment just has to be one of the stupidest ones I've heard on this board in quite a while....and that's going pretty far. TD is no shadier than any other online etailer.....maybe more honest in some ways, compared to one in particular.

True, TD had their rebate fiasco a couple of years ago and got it taken to them over it, and rightly so. But these days, TD's rebate process is one of the quickest around...probably stemming from their fiasco....

Outside of the rebate crap, TD is no better or worse than 'Egg, ZZF, or anyone else. I'd almost say TD's pricing, while sometimes not the cheapest, is at least consistent, something Newegg cannot claim with a straight face.

We're all quite familiar with NE's "dynamic pricing" software and model......yet we seem to completely forgive NE for jacking up prices, sometimes minute by minute, on highly popular items.....while other sellers keep a consistent price day-to-day.

NE's prices remind me of gas prices.....popular item has price increases quickly and dramatically.....yet are painfully slow to drop when the sales drop.


Of course, you can also contrast NE's and TD's business models....NE is online and warehouse only while TD actually has retail stores in addition to its online presence. Yep..pretty shady to me....having real stores.


As for the packaging in the ebay ad....it's an OEM product w/TD's antistatic packaging. I've purchased several OEM things from TD over the years.....and they all come in that sort of packaging. RAM, cpus, etc. What would you expect the damned tray cpu to come in......a padded envelope? Tray cpus don't have "Intel packaging" to come out of, outside of the tray itself, so TD has to pack it in something. Sounds like none of you have ever bought an OEM cpu from anyone at all.......


On, and thanks Zap.....hadn't realized Newegg had finally matched prices on Q6600 cpus with Microcenter, which has had that price now for over 2 months.......



Originally posted by: alfa147x
Originally posted by: Googer
Is this CPU a fake?


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...Name=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

Picture shows exact item you will get, Intel Core 2 DUO E8400 processor CPU SLAPL.

could it be a OEM chip?
 

Mr Fox

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Originally posted by: Jessica69
Originally posted by: myocardia


They're a bit shadier than newegg/ZipZoomFly/ClubIT,

PUH-LEEZE! That comment just has to be one of the stupidest ones I've heard on this board in quite a while....and that's going pretty far. TD is no shadier than any other online etailer.....maybe more honest in some ways, compared to one in particular.

True, TD had their rebate fiasco a couple of years ago and got it taken to them over it, and rightly so. But these days, TD's rebate process is one of the quickest around...probably stemming from their fiasco....

Outside of the rebate crap, TD is no better or worse than 'Egg, ZZF, or anyone else. I'd almost say TD's pricing, while sometimes not the cheapest, is at least consistent, something Newegg cannot claim with a straight face.

We're all quite familiar with NE's "dynamic pricing" software and model......yet we seem to completely forgive NE for jacking up prices, sometimes minute by minute, on highly popular items.....while other sellers keep a consistent price day-to-day.

NE's prices remind me of gas prices.....popular item has price increases quickly and dramatically.....yet are painfully slow to drop when the sales drop.


Of course, you can also contrast NE's and TD's business models....NE is online and warehouse only while TD actually has retail stores in addition to its online presence. Yep..pretty shady to me....having real stores.


As for the packaging in the ebay ad....it's an OEM product w/TD's antistatic packaging. I've purchased several OEM things from TD over the years.....and they all come in that sort of packaging. RAM, cpus, etc. What would you expect the damned tray cpu to come in......a padded envelope? Tray cpus don't have "Intel packaging" to come out of, outside of the tray itself, so TD has to pack it in something. Sounds like none of you have ever bought an OEM cpu from anyone at all.......


On, and thanks Zap.....hadn't realized Newegg had finally matched prices on Q6600 cpus with Microcenter, which has had that price now for over 2 months.......


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aigomorla

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Originally posted by: Mr Fox

Statistically NewEgg gets the job done like no other....98.6% CSR is hard to beat

Tiger is Improving, but still has major issues.

Excerpted from www.resellerratings.com

You guys are funny.

1. There cant be fake cpu's. Intel isnt like Nvidia that goes to other fabs. Basically what im trying to say is there isnt a company out there with the fab process as detailed as intel to make a 45nm cpu. Fake CPU would mean an Engineering Sample or a Stolen Batch.

2. If your chip wont die on you in the first 30 days, i have yet to see one die if used properly for many many years. I dont understand the fear of OEM's. The only chips ive had failed on me either died within the first week, came DOA, or died after many many many months of simulated torture. Think of the Termininator when you think of 65nm chips expecially. They take a beating and keep on ticking.

3. 45nm they will die if you feed it too much voltage. I have a heartache thats ihsless sitting in my desk as a reminder not to kill my yorkie.
 

jaqie

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Originally posted by: aigomorla
1. There cant be fake cpu's.
Not entirely accurate, though it is much harder to do now then in the old days. it is possible (but has been made more cost then profit can be made) to sell slower processors reclocked and re-etched as newer ones, this is what the OP meant as fake, I think.
 

aigomorla

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Originally posted by: jaqie
Originally posted by: aigomorla
1. There cant be fake cpu's.
Not entirely accurate, though it is much harder to do now then in the old days. it is possible (but has been made more cost then profit can be made) to sell slower processors reclocked and re-etched as newer ones, this is what the OP meant as fake, I think.

Well if you think of it in that perspective then yeah.

But anyone who did that would get a major smackdown.

Theres a difference in making something yourself and then labeling as someone elses vs taking someone else's and changing to entirely.

If you think about it, jaqie, there both intel fake or not, so its not really a fake intel. :T
 

shabby

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Originally posted by: nitromullet
Originally posted by: shabby
Originally posted by: Googer
After a little google searching, I found a tomshardware thread. It's a tiger direct OEM repackage.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/217350-28-dollar

Its basically a returned cpu that tigerdirect repackages, i'd stay faaaaaaaar away.

From TigerDirect's site:

PLEASE NOTE: We only sell NEW processors purchased direct from the manufacturer or from factory authorized distributors. We will never sell a "pull" (which is a CPU removed from an assembled system at some manufacturing plant) or a used processor as other online vendors do without telling you. We are the largest CPU reseller in the Country, we offer the lowest prices in the industry on processors because we deal in such great volume. If you are comparing our price against another site with a much lower price, you are probably buying returns or pulls. Only accept genuine quality, buy from Us.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/app...DUO-Q9300#content_1600

They are a big enough company to where they would get sued to hell and back if they had a disclaimer like that and sold returns as new.

So why is it repackaged? Why would a company open a new cpu and simply stick it in their own packaging?
I knew someone who purchased a celeron/mobo combo from td and the cpu came in that same package and the heatspreader was covered in scratches. New my ass.
 

Zap

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Originally posted by: jaqie
Originally posted by: aigomorla
1. There cant be fake cpu's.
sell slower processors reclocked and re-etched as newer ones, this is what the OP meant as fake, I think.

"remarked"

That's what we used to call them. This actually used to be a real problem, but isn't one these days now that CPUs have microcode on them that reports what they are to the BIOS and any software utility that can read it. Otherwise people can just do BSEL mods and sell as faster chips. Actually people can still do that, as long as they don't misrepresent the chips as really being the faster model and instead sell it as "pretested overclocked" chips.

Originally posted by: shabby
So why is it repackaged? Why would a company open a new cpu and simply stick it in their own packaging?

OEM CPUs are AKA "tray" CPUs. They never had individual packaging to begin with.