Fairly disgusted at a co-worker's question!

[LunarRay]

Quote by Supertool

Just wondering why the stockholders of Halliburton competitors should be made to suffer regarding a person who WAS affiliated with Halliburton and now is in government service.
Just wondering why the US taxpayers should be made to suffer uncompetitive service pricing regarding a person who WAS affiliated with Halliburton and now is in government service.
Just wondering.
Noone is saying to exclude Halliburton from bidding because Dick Cheney worked there. All I am saying is don't exclude everyone aside from Halliburton because Dick Cheney worked there.
Yes, and out of all sole sources and pre-vetted companies the government just happened to select Dick Cheneys former company. Just like FERC just happened to look the other way as Bush's big campaign contributors were robbing CA of billions through their market manipulation.
There is plenty of smoke here, whether there is a smoking gun remains to be seen, but certainly should be investigated.
The argument that poor planning is responsible for just landing the contract in Halliburton's lap is absurd, but if it was true, what heads have rolled for that poor planning?[/quote]

Ok... I can see the smoke, at least I can smell what may be smoke or just someone cooking a BBQ.

In this Iraqi issue it will be the Iraqi who will foot the bill.... so I'm told by the talking heads on the news. And I agree the Enrons and buddies "ripped" me off quite a few electric pennies.. But, the issue as I see it can be seen as Halliburton may be the best at the task required. Also, I can't fathom Bush being that stupid.... well...nah..... well... is he that smart... nah... maybe I've got to rethink this.
Regarding non bid letting... the justification must be listed to enable that to go forth.. I've tried to find it on the net and will keep trying.. assuming the contract award letter is open to the public.
I doubt heads rolled if planning was an issue... especially if the buy off was Rummyfield.

 

[joohang]

Originally posted by: Spyro

Originally posted by: bigdog1218
It's called Capitalism.

 

[swifty3]

Originally posted by: bolinger

I wanted to hit him in the head with the microphone. I didn't realize that invasion could be seen as a marketing opportunity. May as well have called it "Operation Iraqi Market Share".

That idea made it through the prelims at the Whitehouse, but the administration nixed it when they realized people might suspect their alterior motives for a war.

ROFL!!!!!Nice. Like your sig too!

 

[swifty3]

Originally posted by: aznparty

Originally posted by: PipBoy
Every quarter the CEO of my Fortune 500 company has a big meeting to tell everyone how the early morning conf. call w/Wall Street went, how the company's doing, plans for the future, etc. At the end you can ask questions if you want. One guy goes "well I know it's kind of early in the post war thing, but what are we doing to take advantage of the situation and get more of our product into Iraq?"

I wanted to hit him in the head with the microphone. I didn't realize that invasion could be seen as a marketing opportunity. May as well have called it "Operation Iraqi Market Share".

Everything nice and moral and just until you get down to business.

Damn straight! Welcome to "democracy" Iraq. Hope you end up having as much fun as Us.

 

[swifty3]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: konichiwa
Nothing new...

$600m (or $7b?) contract to Halliburton...

ok, Lets say the worst happened and every oil well in iraq was set on fire. Do we spend the normal 90-180days to go throught the normal contracting process, or do we just hire boots and coots(owned by haliburton) which are known worldwide for expertise and proven ability of putting out oil fires?


You decide.

How about we just say that all the oil wells were NOT set on fire (reality), and that spending 90-180 days on a fair contracting selection process is the right thing to do.

 

[swifty3]

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: konichiwa
Nothing new...

$600m (or $7b?) contract to Halliburton...

ok, Lets say the worst happened and every oil well in iraq was set on fire. Do we spend the normal 90-180days to go throught the normal contracting process, or do we just hire boots and coots(owned by haliburton) which are known worldwide for expertise and proven ability of putting out oil fires?


You decide.

Because we all know how this war was suddenly thrust upon us, and we had no time to plan in ahead and take bids for putting out fires from companies other than the VP's former employer.
It's not like we had a whole year leading up to this war to do it.

Can you name another company besides Kellogg Brown & Root that is as well known or has as much experiance in extinguishing oil well fires? How many companies world-wide are in that business?

Kellogg Brown & Root doesn't put out oil well fires. They supply infrastructure to the military, like erecting camps and buildings, food prep, stuff like that.

 

[swifty3]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: PipBoy
Because it was Cheney's company, end of story. Government does not exist without the "old boys network".

Yup - skill and job performance has nothing to do with obtaining contracts

As if they are the only company out there with skill and job performance. Cheney was the VP for the company for christs sake. Wake up and smell the petroleum you dunce!

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: swifty3

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: konichiwa
Nothing new...

$600m (or $7b?) contract to Halliburton...

ok, Lets say the worst happened and every oil well in iraq was set on fire. Do we spend the normal 90-180days to go throught the normal contracting process, or do we just hire boots and coots(owned by haliburton) which are known worldwide for expertise and proven ability of putting out oil fires?


You decide.

How about we just say that all the oil wells were NOT set on fire (reality), and that spending 90-180 days on a fair contracting selection process is the right thing to do.

That would be a rather stupid thing to do. Charges were placed on the oil wells. If they had all been set off it would have been a huge ecological and finical disaster for Iraq. If you don't care about them at all vs. perhaps saving a few dollars than waiting would have been the right thing to do. I would rather have the equipment in place and the people ready to go if it did occur.

It's irather sad to see where your priorities lay though.