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FahrenHYPE 911

Megamorph

Senior member
I just finished watching Fahrenhype 911. I highly recommend it. Dick Morris did a fantastic job getting the truth out and debunking the vermin that is Michael Moore. Anyone who supports this traitor or his films are just as anti-American as he is.

If you are genuinely interested in learning the truth, go watch FahrenHYPE 911.
 
I can't think of a post that could make me want to watch that movie any less. Hating those with different opinions and calling them anti-American is a sure sign of a small mind.
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
I can't think of a post that could make me want to watch that movie any less. Hating those with different opinions and calling them anti-American is a sure sign of a small mind.

 
I recently read a site that had counterpoints to most of the drivel that Moore spouts in F-911. I especially like the parts where Moore was quoted as saying "I don't know why people are so worried about these terrorist attacks, you have a better chance of getting hit by lightning than being attacked by a terrorist" YET he goes through such lengths to produce such a demeaning propaganda piece about Sept 11th.

He was asking folks in DC if they would send their kids to Iraq, he has TWO people on film waiving him off, refusing to answer...THAT DO NOT HAVE ANY DAMN CHILDREN. Does he let anyone know this? Of course not.

Moore also initially complained about the War in Afghanistan, then later complains that we didnt commit enough troops to the cause.

For Republicans and ESPECIALLY Bush its a lose / lost situation with this asshat.
 
I will probably end up watching it because I was goaded by certain liberal factions (not from this forum) to "Keep an open mind and check it out. You'll learn something."

All I learned was that MM is a disingenuous pud with a penchant for manipulation.

So, in the fairness of "keeping an open mind" I would now ask all liberals to do the same and watch this film as well. If not you are only exposing yourself to one side of the story and that's not what being a liberal is about.
 
Originally posted by: BunLengthHotDog
I recently read a site that had counterpoints to most of the drivel that Moore spouts in F-911. I especially like the parts where Moore was quoted as saying "I don't know why people are so worried about these terrorist attacks, you have a better chance of getting hit by lightning than being attacked by a terrorist" YET he goes through such lengths to produce such a demeaning propaganda piece about Sept 11th.

He was asking folks in DC if they would send their kids to Iraq, he has TWO people on film waiving him off, refusing to answer...THAT DO NOT HAVE ANY DAMN CHILDREN. Does he let anyone know? Of course not.

Moore also initially complained about the War in Afghanistan, then later complains that we didnt commit enough troops to the cause.

For Republicans and ESPECIALLY Bush its a lose / lost situation with this asshat.

Hey, well reasoned factual sites are great. I checked one out the night I saw F-911 in theaters, I want to get all sides of the story. I feel more informed for having done that. That doesn't mean I want or need to watch a movie that's probably just as bad and recommended by someone blathering about hating America.
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Hating those with different opinions and calling them anti-American is a sure sign of a small mind.

Only someone with a small mind would refer to Moore's anti-American propaganda as an "opinion."

 
Originally posted by: Megamorph
I just finished watching Fahrenhype 911. I highly recommend it. Dick Morris did a fantastic job getting the truth out and debunking the vermin that is Michael Moore. Anyone who supports this traitor or his films are just as anti-American as he is.

If you are genuinely interested in learning the truth, go watch FahrenHYPE 911.
If you're truly seeking truth, you won't find it there. Find a more objective review, something like FactCheck rather than a lifetime partisan hack like Morris.
 
Farhenhype 9/11 was an awesome documentary. It was inspiring, truthful and debunked F 9/11 well. It was even touching at the end.
 
Originally posted by: Megamorph
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Hating those with different opinions and calling them anti-American is a sure sign of a small mind.

Only someone with a small mind would refer to Moore's anti-American propaganda as an "opinion."

Originally posted by: Abraxas
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: Rainsford
I can't think of a post that could make me want to watch that movie any less. Hating those with different opinions and calling them anti-American is a sure sign of a small mind.

 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: BunLengthHotDog
I recently read a site that had counterpoints to most of the drivel that Moore spouts in F-911. I especially like the parts where Moore was quoted as saying "I don't know why people are so worried about these terrorist attacks, you have a better chance of getting hit by lightning than being attacked by a terrorist" YET he goes through such lengths to produce such a demeaning propaganda piece about Sept 11th.

He was asking folks in DC if they would send their kids to Iraq, he has TWO people on film waiving him off, refusing to answer...THAT DO NOT HAVE ANY DAMN CHILDREN. Does he let anyone know? Of course not.

Moore also initially complained about the War in Afghanistan, then later complains that we didnt commit enough troops to the cause.

For Republicans and ESPECIALLY Bush its a lose / lost situation with this asshat.

Hey, well reasoned factual sites are great. I checked one out the night I saw F-911 in theaters, I want to get all sides of the story. I feel more informed for having done that. That doesn't mean I want or need to watch a movie that's probably just as bad and recommended by someone blathering about hating America.


Rainsford, I couldn't agree more...I have not seen (nor will I) either piece.
 
Originally posted by: Megamorph
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Hating those with different opinions and calling them anti-American is a sure sign of a small mind.

Only someone with a small mind would refer to Moore's anti-American propaganda as an "opinion."
If there were any question about your agenda and bias, you just removed it.
 
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: Megamorph
I just finished watching Fahrenhype 911. I highly recommend it. Dick Morris did a fantastic job getting the truth out and debunking the vermin that is Michael Moore. Anyone who supports this traitor or his films are just as anti-American as he is.

If you are genuinely interested in learning the truth, go watch FahrenHYPE 911.
If you're truly seeking truth, you won't find it there. Find a more objective review, something like FactCheck rather than a lifetime partisan hack like Morris.

Morris is a "lifetime partisan hack?" How ignorant. Morris was Clinton's right-hand man during his presidency. Certainly not someone who a reasonable person would label a "partisan hack."

 
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: Megamorph
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Hating those with different opinions and calling them anti-American is a sure sign of a small mind.

Only someone with a small mind would refer to Moore's anti-American propaganda as an "opinion."
If there were any question about your agenda and bias, you just removed it.

I don't think I've tried to hide my agenda in this thread. My agenda is to bring a very factual, truthful account of Bush's actions to the attention of the public rather than a complete work of fiction that is Michael Moore.
 
Originally posted by: Megamorph
I just finished watching Fahrenhype 911. I highly recommend it. Dick Morris did a fantastic job getting the truth out and debunking the vermin that is Michael Moore. Anyone who supports this traitor or his films are just as anti-American as he is.

If you are genuinely interested in learning the truth, go watch FahrenHYPE 911.

w00t i'm unamerican. wow, thanks I always wanted to be that. [instant sig material!]

 
Originally posted by: Megamorph
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: Megamorph
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Hating those with different opinions and calling them anti-American is a sure sign of a small mind.

Only someone with a small mind would refer to Moore's anti-American propaganda as an "opinion."
If there were any question about your agenda and bias, you just removed it.

I don't think I've tried to hide my agenda in this thread. My agenda is to bring a very factual, truthful account of Bush's actions to the attention of the public rather than a complete work of fiction that is Michael Moore.


If you honestly think that moore is being anti-american, then youre completly off base. That's all that's to it.
 
Another interesting segment of the site I referred to above. About Moore changing his tune on Osama Bin Laden :

Moore Claimed that Osama bin Laden Might be Innocent and Opposed the Afghanistan War

Deceit 32

Fahrenheit 9/11 attempts in every way possible to link Osama bin Laden to George Bush. Moore even claims that Bush deliberately gave bin Laden "a two month head start" by not putting sufficient forces into Afghanistan soon enough. (On HBO, Moore explicitly claimed that the U.S. is protecting bin Laden in order to please the Saudis.) However, Moore has not always been so fierce demanding that the Afghanistan War be prosecuted with maximal power in order to get bin Laden:

In late 2002, almost a year after the al-Qaida assault on American society, I had an onstage debate with Michael Moore at the Telluride Film Festival. In the course of this exchange, he stated his view that Osama Bin Laden should be considered innocent until proven guilty. This was, he said, the American way. The intervention in Afghanistan, he maintained, had been at least to that extent unjustified. Something?I cannot guess what, since we knew as much then as we do now?has since apparently persuaded Moore that Osama Bin Laden is as guilty as hell. Indeed, Osama is suddenly so guilty and so all-powerful that any other discussion of any other topic is a dangerous "distraction" from the fight against him. I believe that I understand the convenience of this late conversion.

Hitchens, Slate. That Osama, if captured and tried in an American court, would be entitled to a presumption of innocence (in the sense that the prosecution would have to prove guilt) does not mean that the U.S. should be morally foreclosed from destroying Osama's base in Afghanistan and attempting to capture or kill Osama based on facts demonstrating his guilt.

Three days after September 11, Moore demanded that no military action be taken against Afghanistan:

"Declare war?" War against whom? One guy in the desert whom we can never seem to find? Are our leaders telling us that the most powerful country on earth cannot dispose of one sick evil f---wad of a guy? Because if that is what you are telling us, then we are truly screwed. If you are unable to take out this lone ZZ Top wannabe, what on earth would you do for us if we were attacked by a nation of millions? For chrissakes, call the Israelis and have them do that thing they do when they want to get their man! We pay them enough billions each year, I am SURE they would be happy to accommodate your request....

But do not declare war and massacre more innocents. After bin Laden's previous act of terror, our last elected president went and bombed what he said was "bin Laden's camp" in Afghanistan -- but instead just killed civilians.

Michael Moore, "War on Whom?" AlterNet, Sept. 14, 2001.

The next day he wrote:

Trust me, they are talking politics night and day, and those discussions involve sending our kids off to fight some invisible enemy and to indiscriminately bomb Afghans or whoever they think will make us Americans feel good.

...I fear we will soon be in a war that will do NOTHING to protect us from the next terrorist attack.

"Mike's Message," Sept. 15, 2001. Although Moore vehemently opposed the Afghanistan War, Fahrenheit criticizes Bush for not putting more troops into Afghanistan sooner.

Are we any safer because the U.S. military eliminated the al Qaeda training camps in Afghanistan, removed a government which did whatever al Qaeda wanted, and killed or captured two-thirds of the al Qaeda leadership? Fahrenheit's thesis that the Afghanistan War was solely for the pipeline and to distract attention from Saudi Arabia is inconsistent with the well-known results of the war. A sincere patriot could have opposed the Afghanistan War for a variety of reasons, such as fear that the invasion might stir up even more anti-American sentiment. But the only reason which Fahrenheit offers for opposing the war is the claim that not enough force was used in the early stages (a criticism contrary to Moore's 2001 opposition to the use of any force), and the factually indefensible claim that the results of the war did not help American security or harm terrorists.[/b]
 
Originally posted by: Megamorph
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: Megamorph
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Hating those with different opinions and calling them anti-American is a sure sign of a small mind.

Only someone with a small mind would refer to Moore's anti-American propaganda as an "opinion."
If there were any question about your agenda and bias, you just removed it.

I don't think I've tried to hide my agenda in this thread. My agenda is to bring a very factual, truthful account of Bush's actions to the attention of the public rather than a complete work of fiction that is Michael Moore.
No, your agenda is to present right-wing propaganda as truth. The difference between you and Moore is that he admits he is biased. How do you feel about failing to match his standards of honesty and integrity?
 
Michael Moore has actually crossed the line from being anti-American to possibly being a criminal. His cooperation with Hesbalah has attracted the attention of the FBI.
 
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