Facts vs. Opinons

[UberNeuman]

Which of two is stronger?

 

[wuliheron]

You can't have one without the other.

 

[guyver01]

People rarely use facts when forming their opinions.

 

[wuliheron]

People rarely use facts when forming their opinions.

Is this an example?

 

[guyver01]

Is this an example?

nope. just an observation from reading the multitudes of P&N threads.

 

[wuliheron]

nope. just an observation from reading the multitudes of P&N threads.

And what is the difference between an observation, fact, and opinion?

 

[Zebo]

Religion is awfully strong and facts are offensive to them. I'm going with opinion.

 

[kami333]

Opinion.

Even when facts contradict the opinion, people will ignore or misinterpret the facts to strengthen their opinion, the "backfire effect".

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~bnyhan/nyhan-reifler.pdf

 

[guyver01]

And what is the difference between an observation, fact, and opinion?

a fact is ... something that actually exists; reality.

an opinion is .... a personal view, attitude, or appraisal of a situation.

an observation is something seen with your eyes. by definition, it would be an opinion, because it is based on the observers personal views.

 

[dmcowen674]

Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one.

 

[wuliheron]

a fact is ... something that actually exists; reality.

an opinion is .... a personal view, attitude, or appraisal of a situation.

an observation is something seen with your eyes. by definition, it would be an opinion, because it is based on the observers personal views.

I suppose that's one opinion.

 

[boomerang]

How does one determine what is factual and what is not?

 

[Matt1970]

Facts will almost always be skewed or explained away with BS reasoning.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Opinions win. Fatality.

 

[dmcowen674]

How does one determine what is factual and what is not?

You can't

All you could do is look at history writings centuries later.

 

[wuliheron]

How does one determine what is factual and what is not?

Words only have demonstrable meaning according to their function in specific contexts. Thus facts are distinguished from opinions according to the specific context. For example, it means one thing to say "The earth is flat" when talking about a garden and another when talking about the world. In one context it can be considered a fact and in the other an opinion.

Whether or not some things are absolute facts is debatable, but most certainly we can demonstrate that the meaning of such words depends on the context and the more specific the context the clearer the meaning becomes. The alternative is, of course, for everyone around the world to argue over such things as which direction is the "real" up, which is the "real" fact, and which is the "real" opinion.

 

[IGBT]

facts are based on evidence. Opinion (liberalism) is based on feeling.

 

[MotF Bane]

facts are based on evidence. Opinion (liberalism) is based on feeling.

Do you actually believe that crap?

 

[HeXen]

in my opinion, this thread is pointless.
in fact, its a discussion forum
in observation, this thread is pointless.

that's 2 to 1. Facts have no significant value. /thread

 

[Jaskalas]

Perception defines reality. Perception does not care between fact or fiction.

 

[MovingTarget]

facts are based on evidence. Opinion (liberalism) is based on feeling.

Reality (facts) have a liberal bias. Therefore, all facts are opinions.

QED.

 

[sandorski]

Reality (facts) have a liberal bias. Therefore, all facts are opinions.

QED.

Everyone knows this(Fact)

 

[novasatori]

http://pbskids.org/arthur/games/factsopinions/

 

[dawp]

Do you actually believe that crap?

With the facts he presents, I'm of the the opinion that he actually does.

 

[manimal]

when a talking head states an opinion the sheeple take it as fact...


when newsmen and wemon were trustworthy and held to actual standards before the mid 80s this was less of a problem...


look where were at now where science is considered a four letter word and hate became mantra...