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Facebook to deliver ads based on internet history starting Jan 1

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cbrunny

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https://www.facebook.com/about/terms-updates/?notif_t=data_policy_notice

Facebook is planning to start checking out what website you are hitting up and what apps you use on your phone. If they're partnered businesses with Facebook, you're gonna get more ads from them.

I'm generally ok with targeted advertising, but the limit for me is when the target is determined by data that you don't provide. Google's targeted advertising is limited only to stuff you actually put into Google search (I am pretty sure...). It doesn't creep your history and grab data from that for advertising purposes.

My read of this is that Facebook has intention to start directing ads at you based on data that you don't provide to Facebook, but is collected through your internet-connected device.

Am I wrong? How is this legal?

EDIT: It's pretty clear I have no idea what I'm talking about. So I guess ignore my OP and lets discuss the new FB privacy thing? I guess?
 
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Why do people bitch about this. So you expect to host your shit for free and somehow the servers,power and employees get paid out of magic?

Go buy your own server, set up your own website and blog etc.. And you pay for the hosting etc... But now you own your own data.

Otherwise just suck it up and enjoy your "free" Facebook.
 
cbrunny said:
oh really? interesting. I didn't know that. I'll have to check that out. Clearly I need to do more research.
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Google has ads everywhere.

Hell, when you're on the forums here, Google Analytics knows about it.
Or on Tumblr.
Or Reddit.
MSNBC.
Weather.com
Visa.com (Google Tag Manager)
Imgur.com
Amazon's homepage (DoubleClick, which Google owns)
Newegg (DoubleClick and Google+)
TigerDirect
Bank of America (DoubleClick)
Chase Bank's homepage (DoubleClick and Google Dynamic Marketing)




Google's computers know a great deal about you.
So does Facebook.
The more they know about you, the better they can manipulate you with advertising.
If you think you're immune to advertising: 1) You're likely wrong. Companies spend hundreds of billions of dollars annually on advertising. I doubt they'd do it if they didn't see results. 2) Ignorance of your own statistically-probable vulnerabilities just makes you an easier mark.😉




Some tools, at least for Firefox:
Ghostery (Helps block trackers. Oddly enough, the parent company's business is in online advertising.😵)
CookieCuller (It can be set to autodelete cookies when Firefox restarts, but you can have it protect specific cookies that you do want.)
Adblocker Plus (If you don't already have this, what's wrong with you?)
NoScript (This'll make browsing a pain in the ass though, as a lot of websites rely on scripting.)
BetterPrivacy (Flash elements in pages can also put their own special cookies on your computer, which are kept separate from regular browser cookies.)
 
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That's awesome. More ads for things I want to buy instead of things I don't want? And I continue to receive tons of free services? Talk about a win-win.
 
hahahaha facebook will be promoting X rated ads.......I can see it all now -- But Honey honestly I was never at that site....
 
How exactly do Google and Facebook do this stuff anyway, and is there a way to stop it? It's one thing for them to track what I do on their own site, but how do they know what external sites I visit and how do I stop them from tracking all that?

The danger with Facebook doing this is ads that you see will probably somehow end up in your time line too so people will know what sites you visit.

Google is pretty creepy too, since they somehow know each individual person, not computer. I can be searching for something at work, and then at home I start getting ads based on what I searched at work. How do they even know I'm the same person? I never login to a google account and don't accept 3rd party cookies.
 
there needs to be an adblock that works on the phone for all apps. It works for PC browsers and are the websites all up in arms over it? It's not like the majority use it.

Personally though, I just want adblock for Chrome on Android.
 
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Red Squirrel said:
How exactly do Google and Facebook do this stuff anyway, and is there a way to stop it? It's one thing for them to track what I do on their own site, but how do they know what external sites I visit and how do I stop them from tracking all that?
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Those +1/thumbs-up buttons are hosted by Facebook/Google not the website that you're visiting so they get to log each time you visit a page with one on (you don't need to click the button). You don't need an account with them either so everyone saying "that's why I don't use social media" is still getting tracked.
 
WelshBloke said:
Those +1/thumbs-up buttons are hosted by Facebook/Google not the website that you're visiting so they get to log each time you visit a page with one on (you don't need to click the button). You don't need an account with them either so everyone saying "that's why I don't use social media" is still getting tracked.
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Hmmm so it just goes by IP because the image is being loaded? I guess that's a tricky one to block as they probably have quite a lot of servers so it's not like you can just block a single IP at the firewall.
 
Red Squirrel said:
Hmmm so it just goes by IP because the image is being loaded? I guess that's a tricky one to block as they probably have quite a lot of servers so it's not like you can just block a single IP at the firewall.
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I use ghostery on chrome, I'm under no illusions that it stops all tracking but it's better to make the buggers work for their data eh?
 
cbrunny said:
https://www.facebook.com/about/terms-updates/?notif_t=data_policy_notice

Facebook is planning to start checking out what website you are hitting up and what apps you use on your phone. If they're partnered businesses with Facebook, you're gonna get more ads from them.

I'm generally ok with targeted advertising, but the limit for me is when the target is determined by data that you don't provide. Google's targeted advertising is limited only to stuff you actually put into Google search (I am pretty sure...). It doesn't creep your history and grab data from that for advertising purposes.

My read of this is that Facebook has intention to start directing ads at you based on data that you don't provide to Facebook, but is collected through your internet-connected device.

Am I wrong? How is this legal?

EDIT: It's pretty clear I have no idea what I'm talking about. So I guess ignore my OP and lets discuss the new FB privacy thing? I guess?
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It's all in the TOS you agreed to when you joined those sites.
 
biostud said:
6 links that will show you what google knows about you

http://blog.cloudfender.com/post/102607665327/6-links-that-will-show-you-what-google-knows-about
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Interesting. I looked at all of it and google doesn't know anything about me. You see because A. my settings are all off and B. I don't use anything but the search engine - it bases most of it's info on your account (which I'm never signed into or use).

Now, I realize it can find out quite a bit simply by my searches, but at the end of the day, that only tracks to one PC and/or IP.
 
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