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BoomerD

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Why you guys being so mean? Frontier was offering 7mbps/784kbps for $50 a month plus we had to have basic phone service for $54 a month. It was a joke really.
The only other option was Comcast....Comcast....Let me say it again Comcast.

Dude...I'd just about give my left nut to have Comcrap here. Instead, we're stuck with Wave Broadband. Hands down, the worst internet/phone service we've ever had. (but when it works...it works pretty well as shown in my screen print above) We had Comcast before we moved here. We paid less money for more channels, faster internet, and better quality of service than we get from Wave. BUT, I also recognize that while Comcast is a nation-wide company, the quality if service you get often depends on your local office and workers...we were lucky in that the local Comcast folks were pretty good.
 

Carson Dyle

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Why you guys being so mean? Frontier was offering 7mbps/784kbps for $50 a month plus we had to have basic phone service for $54 a month. It was a joke really.
The only other option was Comcast....Comcast....Let me say it again Comcast.

Wait. You were paying over a $100/month for 7 Mbps DSL, when you could have had Comcast? Now, you have fiber, at cable speeds.

How much are you paying?
 

bbhaag

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I just don't like Comcast. Get off my ass man. Yeah I would rather pay more than support Comcast. You got a problem with that?
 

Carson Dyle

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How much for the 50 Mbps fiber?

I was being serious. I didn't know they offered fiber with either speeds that slow or that asymmetric.
 

bbhaag

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I hate you guys....you turned something that I thought was great and twisted into something that is bad. ATOT is such a bitch sometimes....
 

Carson Dyle

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Congratulations.

I didn't mean anything disparaging by my questions. Still curious about how much you're paying. Municipal fiber is getting pushed across Colorado in an attempt to get out from under the thumb of Comcast. The city of Longmont is building out their network right now. Cost to charter subscribers is $49.95/month for gigabit service.

http://longmontcolorado.gov/departm...ngmont-power-communications/broadband-service
 

SP33Demon

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master_shake_

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I find it funny, I stopped a 135mbps download AND a 147mbps upload in order to run a test that tells me my average internet speed is 90mbps, sure it is buddy, sure it is. They need better servers, or better peering in the DC area because I get much faster download and upload connected to literally anything else, steam servers, speedtest, apple, etc.

speedtest is always the maximum speed you pay for.

your isp never throttles that.

How is this different than other speedtests?
Many speedtests run a test against measurement points located within your ISP’s network, or to a limited set of measurement points. Those tests measure the speed within your ISP, but not your performance to “the rest of the Internet.”
This test uses open-source code and M-Lab infrastructure, and tests against measurement points located at representative locations outside of your ISP’s network. In effect, this test measures whether you get adequate performance to The Internet, looking at various locations as representative of The Internet. Many speedtests measure only whether you get adequate performance within your ISP’s network.
 

RockinZ28

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I hate you guys....you turned something that I thought was great and twisted into something that is bad. ATOT is such a bitch sometimes....

Sorry bro. My phone gets faster internets than your fiber.
 

mnewsham

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speedtest is always the maximum speed you pay for.

your isp never throttles that.

My ISP obviously doesn't throttle any of my downloads either.


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If they are throttling, it doesn't effect my use scenarios.

And if I really felt like it, i'd just use my VPN to get around whatever they are throttling.
 
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ultimatebob

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But, but, but Frontier has purchased Verizon landline business, FIOS included out west. Are we going to rue the day?

They aren't bad. They took over my AT&T U-Verse account about a year ago, and they're doing a pretty job once they got past the initial problems with the account switchover. I can get speeds comparable with the OP's post if I upgraded to their 50 Mb/sec package from the 25 Mb/sec package I have now.
 

ultimatebob

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Yeah, most Speedtest results are BS nowadays. Most ISP's have a local Speedtest server on their own internal network to improve their test results.

If you're going to use that tool, pick a server run by a University or private company in a nearby state. Odds are the results will be about 25% slower.
 

master_shake_

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My ISP obviously doesn't throttle any of my downloads either.

If they are throttling, it doesn't effect my use scenarios.

And if I really felt like it, i'd just use my VPN to get around whatever they are throttling.

well they are either throttling or congested at peer points.
 

mnewsham

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Yeah, most Speedtest results are BS nowadays. Most ISP's have a local Speedtest server on their own internal network to improve their test results.

If you're going to use that tool, pick a server run by a University or private company in a nearby state. Odds are the results will be about 25% slower.

I prefer using real download scenarios.

Steam game downloads, torrents, FTP, etc.
 

Fire&Blood

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That seems low for fiber, even behind a distant vpn I get better results with my charter line:
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mnewsham

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That seems low for fiber, even behind a distant vpn I get better results with my charter line:
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Lol, this tool doesn't even work on my VPN, it just sits there on "step 1" re-doing the download and upload test over and over and over, been sitting here for 15 minutes now and it's still just doing step one, over and over and over.
 

Carson Dyle

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Ok, I get it now. I'd never heard of MTCO, but I see that they're a small cable TV operator that also offers internet and voice service. So, it makes sense that even though the OP has fiber coming into the home, MTCO offers typical "cable-like" speed tiers. They probably figure that it's easiest to just offer everyone the same service, regardless of the physical connection.
 

mnewsham

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Both have me testing in the mid 40-50mb/s range, which is just laughable as I can start any torrent or steam download right now and have it hit 140mbps+

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CSGO download from Steam servers
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which is why i dont hold stock in speed tests, they are bullshit and shouldnt be believed. If a speed test shows me getting 30-50mb/s but I can get 140mb/s+ from downloads, what use is that speed test?
 
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master_shake_

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Both have me testing in the mid 40-50mb/s range, which is just laughable as I can start any torrent or steam download right now and have it hit 140mbps+

Star citizen update
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CSGO download from Steam servers
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which is why i dont hold stock in speed tests, they are bullshit and shouldnt be believed. If a speed test shows me getting 30-50mb/s but I can get 140mb/s+ from downloads, what use is that speed test?

flip on your vpn and try.
 

mnewsham

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flip on your vpn and try.

Better close to 80mb/s but then I am limited to the VPN servers upload/download and assuming the particular server I am using isn't busy at the moment.


In any case, I don't hold any stock in speed test sites, in pretty much every real life scenario my connection is never as slow as most speed test places (besides speedtest.net) say it is.


Real world use is always more important than synthetic benchmarks anyway.
 

master_shake_

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Better close to 80mb/s but then I am limited to the VPN servers upload/download and assuming the particular server I am using isn't busy at the moment.


In any case, I don't hold any stock in speed test sites, in pretty much every real life scenario my connection is never as slow as most speed test places (besides speedtest.net) say it is.


Real world use is always more important than synthetic benchmarks anyway.


speed tests that aren't speedtest.net are real world benchmarks.

your isp is throttling or congested.

those are provable facts.

when you turn on your vpn your traffic isn't shaped by your isp.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/timothy-karr/internet-test-reveals-ame_b_7660542.html

Now here's the bad: The evidence collected points to slowdowns for users on the networks of five of the largest Internet access providers -- AT&T, CenturyLink, Comcast, Time Warner Cable and Verizon -- which represent 75 percent of all U.S. wireline households.

And the ugly: Since the test results were made public a number of paid cable industry operatives have tried to tear down these findings, suggesting without actually looking at the data that they are faulty and somehow corrupted. (UPDATE: These claims were found to be "incorrect and baseless" and "simply not true" by none other than the former CTO of GTT).