F.E.A.R STUTTERS ON MY X19000XT

[bamacre]

People saying it's the PSU are dead wrong, unless the PSU is bad.

The 375W power supply is a GOOD psu, and the 375w is rated at average output, not max. I have a 256MB 7800 GTX running in my 9100 with zero problems, and you can configure the XPS 400 (same as 9150 model) with a 256MB 7800 GTX.

Unless the X19000XT is just using an ungodly amount of power, his PSU is fine. I run fear at 16x12 very smoothly (no aa of course), but I have 2GB of ram.

OP, are you having this problem just with FEAR, or other games as well? Did the system come with the X300 Radeon, and did you use driver cleaner to get rid of all ATI drivers? I would do a reinstall of the OS, and make sure you install the video card drivers last, especially after the chipset drivers.


Edit: Well, I could be wrong, that X1900 XT is calling for 30A on 12V rail. :shocked: Comapred to 22A on 12V rail for the 7800 GTX. Damn.

 

[santz]

ok .hmmmm interesting!!!!

i was getting frustrated at what to do, but after reading all your comments i have decided on the following course of action, if the first step does not work, i will cry and go to the next step, (costs more money and effort at each step, hehe), and keep going until it does!

1. Get new PSU , if does not work- then (done, being shipped- antec smartpower 2.0- 500W)
2. reinstall the drivers after using DRIVER CLEANER, IF does not work- then
3. get additional 1gb ram, IF does not work- then
4. upgrade my 2.8 ghz dual core, IF does not work- then
5. take a hammer, break my cpu
6. sell my sweet x1900xt
7. buy xbox 360
8. Sue sierra projects for not making FEAR on xbox 360

hope this works----------^

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Crescent13
PSU is crap. That's what's causing it to crash.

CPU is crap. That's what's slowing down the FPS.

RAM is too little. That's what's causing it to stutter.

:thumbsup:

Crashing issues sound like PSU.

Stuttering FPS does not sound like his CPU, heck, i can run FEAR without any 'stuttering' on my tbred-b at 2.1Ghz & 1 gb RAM...

In my experience stuttering usually a driver problem or running out of VRAM/System RAM. Since this doesn't happen to me with a 128mb 6600GT@600/1150 & 1gb system ram, with a CPU that is almost certainly slower, it seems HIGHLY unlikey that either of those last points are true (remember, he says it happened in the 1024 benchmark too, i'm playing at 1024, everything maxed, softshadows off, 0xAA/4xAF atm)...

Not like you to spread FUD Zebo

No FUD pentium Dual cores lag/studder and 2.8 Pentium E is slower than your processor in games it's like as fast as a 2.4 northwood in games and a 1.8Ghz athlon XP.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Crescent13
PSU is crap. That's what's causing it to crash.

CPU is crap. That's what's slowing down the FPS.

RAM is too little. That's what's causing it to stutter.

:thumbsup:

Crashing issues sound like PSU.

Stuttering FPS does not sound like his CPU, heck, i can run FEAR without any 'stuttering' on my tbred-b at 2.1Ghz & 1 gb RAM...

In my experience stuttering usually a driver problem or running out of VRAM/System RAM. Since this doesn't happen to me with a 128mb 6600GT@600/1150 & 1gb system ram, with a CPU that is almost certainly slower, it seems HIGHLY unlikey that either of those last points are true (remember, he says it happened in the 1024 benchmark too, i'm playing at 1024, everything maxed, softshadows off, 0xAA/4xAF atm)...

Not like you to spread FUD Zebo

No FUD pentium Dual cores lag/studder and 2.8 Pentium E is slower than your processor in games it's like as fast as a 2.4 northwood in games and a 1.8Ghz athlon XP.

is that an intel dual core bug?

 

[firewolfsm]

What are you smoking, you are buying a new PSU for $70 before even checking to see if it is a driver issue?

 

[santz]

Originally posted by: firewolfsm
What are you smoking, you are buying a new PSU for $70 before even checking to see if it is a driver issue?

_______________________________________________________________________-

u know how its like to have gone through a birthday without playing halo online pc,
better yet, how its like when you were gifted a ati1900xt video card, oblivion collectors edition, FEAR, star wars empire at war, quake 4, galactice civilizations 2 dread lords, nfs most wanted and black and white 2.

its been 2 weeks since my bday and all that is just lying there in front of my F$^#%#& eyes, i cannot take it anymore , i need relief, , thats WHY i ordered my psu buddy.

(p.s.- no disrespect or anger towards u dude, just plainly trying to get things going, hehe

 

[videopho]

The OP is doing the right thing by getting a beefier psu. Psu's wattage is just like system memory. One never has enough of it. The more of it is the better because it gives your components more headroom to breath or expand.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: videopho
The OP is doing the right thing by getting a beefier psu. Psu's wattage is just like system memory. One never has enough of it. The more of it is the better because it gives your components more headroom to breath or expand.

No, not really.

Its more like putting a ferrari gastank in a pinto... No performance increase at all for a lot more money.

Im done with this thread since the OP doesnt want to clarify anything...

We cant help him with more details, thats why our advice is all over the place, this is a joke.

Enjoy putting a new PSU in the proprietary dell btw.

 

[Ronin]

Originally posted by: Xxspd88xX
dell psu arent very strong

Complete misinformation. Dell actually underrates their PSUs, so what you're getting is actually better than what you think. I've put X1800's, X1900's, 7800's, etc into Dells without an issue.

The problem isn't the PSU, it's elsewhere.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Elfear
I'd be willing to bet it's your PSU. Not sure which brand Dell carries but I imagine it doesn't have a very strong 12V rail. Can you tell us how many amps the 12V rail has?

His PSU does 18A on 12V rail.

 

[santz]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: videopho
The OP is doing the right thing by getting a beefier psu. Psu's wattage is just like system memory. One never has enough of it. The more of it is the better because it gives your components more headroom to breath or expand.

No, not really.

Its more like putting a ferrari gastank in a pinto... No performance increase at all for a lot more money.

Im done with this thread since the OP doesnt want to clarify anything...

We cant help him with more details, thats why our advice is all over the place, this is a joke.

Enjoy putting a new PSU in the proprietary dell btw.

______________

dude, what else would you have me do, even though my psu has not arrived yet, i am open and up for anything. no one here asked me anything.

i mentioned almost all i kknew in my opening topic.

thanks for helping though......

 

[santz]

fine, getting mixed suggestions from every1, i will just go ahead ad start my cpu on the 375w psu.
on opening my cpu, i found that the psu has

12vA -18A
12vB -18A

i am currently in process of using driver cleaner to reinstall drivers
be back when its done

 

[Ronin]

18A on both rails actually would almost make that SLi Certified (save for the fact that it's a labeled 375W, which means it's probably a 420).

 

[santz]

how do i tell if my cpu or gpu is artifacting, or low on power?
also any programs available to monitor the voltage?

 

[Ronin]

ATiTool monitors Amp draw now (from what I've seen when the X1900XTX is installed). If you're artifacting, you'd know...it's not something you'd miss, but if you use ATiTool and the 3d Renderer within it, that will give you a good idea if it's artifacting.

 

[bamacre]

Cancel the order on that new PSU, that is a waste, you do not need it.

Your problem is NOT the PSU, nor your cpu (FEAR is heavy video card more so than cpu).

BTW, is this the RETAIL game, or the demo??

 

[santz]

its retail version, i also cannot cancel order now as it is already on way, i can return it once it gets here.

 

[bamacre]

What settings are you playing FEAR on? Do you have soft shadows on? AA?

I'd be wary of listening to some people here. Some act as if you don't have a $200 PSU, you need one. Some think games won't play on Intel cpu's.

I'm playing FEAR on a Dell 9100 with 2GB of ram and a 256MB GTX with a Pentium 630 and it runs very smoothly at 1600x1200.

If this is a hardware issue, it is due to a bad piece of hardware, not because what you have is subpar or too slow.

 

[santz]

finished uninstalling drivers, restarted in safe moe and using driver cleaner's cab cleaner to clean windows sp 2.- finished

using driver cleaner to clean ati drivers- finished
restarted cpu and installing new drivers from ati website- current

 

[santz]

test at everything maxed, except aa and hdr and bloom, dont even know how to turn them on.

anyway FEAR test report

minimum 37
averageg 49
maximum 63

0% below 25 fps
15% between 25 and 40 fps
85% above 40 fps

even with these results it lags every couple of seconds when in play on single player, so it hiccups ever couple of seconds!! now how do i use ati tool to monitor voltage, is ati tool same as ati catalyst control center.

i am going to try oblivion now and see what happens.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: santz
test at everything maxed, except aa and hdr and bloom, dont even know how to turn them on.

anyway FEAR test report

minimum 37
averageg 49
maximum 63

0% below 25 fps
15% between 25 and 40 fps
85% above 40 fps

even with these results it lags every couple of seconds when in play on single player, so it hiccups ever couple of seconds!! now how do i use ati tool to monitor voltage, is ati tool same as ati catalyst control center.

i am going to try oblivion now and see what happens.

Turn soft shadows off. What resolution is that?

May want to read through this...

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2575

 

[Azndude2190]

It could be a combination of PSU and lack of adaquete RAM...how are your other games playing?

 

[santz]

resolution 1280x968

even lags at resolution 1024x768.

is there any program that lets me monitor the amount of ram its using up, cause it may be less ram, even though i have a very very fast 1gb ram ruunning at 667mhz. how is memokit?

also my x1900xt temperature went up to 103 degrees, is that normal?

 

[namityadav]

Are you running some more applications in Windows?
How much memory are those applications taking?
How about closing as many of them as possible and then try FEAR again? Including firewall / antivirus etc
Although 18A on two rails may be enough for 1900XT, but are you using both rails for the card?
Don't return the new PSU without testing. Maybe your 375w (avg) PSU is almost at the bottleneck stage.

 

[namityadav]

ps .. I am thinking of buying a cheap PSU as a dedicated PSU for the video card. Any tips on how that should be done?