F-150 good price or not?

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
Ohh god I hate bench seats!
No adjustment for the passenger or driver.

They all come with a 60/40 bench, independently adjustable...

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: Zebo
HP ? ya whatever. Torque is all I care about. Especiallly in a truck. And you want it flat as possible.

You can't have one without the other. Doesn't work that way with gasoline engines. If you want more torque at say, 2500 rpms, the only way you're getting it is by having more horsepower at the same rpm.
They are directly connected.

It is easier to have more horsepower at lower rpm with a large engine, therefore they also have more torque.
Example: Old Buick 455's had around 300 hp with 510 torque. Reason for the large torque # is the HP peak came at a low rpm.
If you could make a 6 cylinder have 300 hp at the same rpm, it would have the same torque. But generally, you can't make a streetable 6 cyl have 300 hp at 2000 rpm, like the 455 did, so the torque curve is obviously different.

 

[Lvis]

Here's an xl for 12.5 Link

 

[Pliablemoose]

Couple of ads for the weekend from Dallas area:

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Check out the weekend loss leaders in your area this weekend...

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: Zebo
HP ? ya whatever. Torque is all I care about. Especiallly in a truck. And you want it flat as possible.

You can't have one without the other. Doesn't work that way with gasoline engines. If you want more torque at say, 2500 rpms, the only way you're getting it is by having more horsepower at the same rpm.
They are directly connected.

It is easier to have more horsepower at lower rpm with a large engine, therefore they also have more torque.
Example: Old Buick 455's had around 300 hp with 510 torque. Reason for the large torque # is the HP peak came at a low rpm.
If you could make a 6 cylinder have 300 hp at the same rpm, it would have the same torque. But generally, you can't make a streetable 6 cyl have 300 hp at 2000 rpm, like the 455 did, so the torque curve is obviously different.

I understabd Torque and HP are flip sides of the same coin, however HP has no units and is simply a derivative of torque and rpm represented like so HP = TQ x rpm/ 5252. So where does this leave us? Well my 220? (don't care) HP engine will smoke most cars because it has 550 ftlbs of TQ that's were and still weighs 2x what any car does. It also leaves us with an engine that makes it immediatly for pulling, climing and accelerating which I would think was important in a truck. Not high speed powerband racing. HP numbers act like all drivers shift at the redline for thier bogus number while torque is real world and imporatnt that it's flat and low RPMs in a truck.

 

[Mani]

Originally posted by: Binar

Originally posted by: Mani
A buddy of mine JUST got a new F150 yesterday in fact for $13k....it was V6, MT, but had extended cab. Think the only options it has are tilt/cruise and carpet/floor mats.

no AC?

Yeah it had AC too...is that an option (as opposed to being standard)?

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Zebo
How are you paying?

I never recommend buying new. What i do is go to dealer auctions on a weekday with a little dealer I knows licence (he charges me $500) and buy 1 year old. You get crazy deals there. I got a 38K truck for around 22K 1 year old. I got a 26K car for 16K one year old. And so on.

But it sounds good for new.

yeah but how many people have this as an option? im lucky my father owns a car dealership so i never pay much for a used car. but not everyone has a family member or friend with a dealer license.