Extremely suspicious (fraudulent?) activity in Volusia County, FL

Darkhawk28

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The following is clear, plain and simple case of FRAUD...

The tinfoil hat has now been taken off, wadded up in a ball and thrown straight in the trash...

Black Box Voting... See Update for Tuesday, November 23.

Summary of allegations

a. The Supervisor of Elections has unreasonably delayed providing information.

b. The certification was based on inadequate and incomplete information regarding the election results.

6. Some or all of the information requested on Nov. 2, 2004 by Black Box Voting is still missing from 59 of the 179 voting precincts, including portions of or all of the voting machine tapes for those 59 precincts, which are a vital part of official paper record of the election results from those precincts.

7. Complete information on problems with the voting machines prior to and during the election has not been provided.

8. Complete information relating to memory card failures during the election has not yet been provided.

9. Only a partial list of the transmission logs from the Accu-Vote optical scan server has been provided. Despite repeated requests, the Elections office has refused to provide to the Volusia County Democratic party the official election results, now stating that those results will not be available until December 1, 2004.

10. The Elections office has provided incomplete data regarding Early Voting and Absentee ballots. The Supervisor of Elections, for example, reported that the total number of absentee ballots and Early voting ballots, combined equaled 89,999 votes, yet the published figures for those totals is 84,100 votes, leaving over 5,800 votes unaccounted for.

11. In addition to the pattern of delay in providing the requested information, the true election results are in doubt because of numerous violations of election law procedure and unanswered questions concerning the results.

12. The polls were opened early and closed late during Early Voting.

13. Many public records, including one signed results tape from a voting machine were found in the trash. Many of the requested records not furnished by the Elections office have been found in the trash. Results from the tapes found in the trash do not match the results of the copies of tapes furnished.

14. An email from Mark Earley, of Diebold Elections Systems, Inc., to the Elections office was provided which asked the recipient for an explanation of why Volusia County had more memory card failures than all of their other Florida customers combined, and then asked why the 17 memory card failures which the Elections office reported on November 3, increased to 25 before November 12, 2004.

15. The reported memory card failures were significant and troubling and included reporting zero votes after one week of voting, requesting permission to upload votes before the voting began, and messaging whether the card should be reformatted.

16. According to a statement by the Supervisor of Elections on November 17, 2004, the GEMS computer is not networked, and is "stand alone." The furnished computer logs show evidence of at least two attempts to remotely access the GEMS central tabulator, which is claimed to be secure. A computer screen shot printout on November 17, 2004 (found in the trash) shows that the GEMS computer at that time had two networked hard drives.


Plus, there's a lawsuit now pending....

Volusia Lawsuit

Susan Rose Pynchon vs. Volusia County Canvassing Board and Ann McFall
IN THE CIRCUIT COURT
SEVENTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT OF FLORIDA
IN AND FOR VOLUSIA COUNTY, FLORIDA

SUSAN ROSE PYNCHON,
Plaintiff

Vs.

VOLUSIA COUNTY CANVASSING BOARD
And ANN McFALL,
Defendants

____________________________________

COMPLAINT TO CONTEST ELECTION

Plaintiff, Susan Rose Pynchon, sues the Volusia County Canvassing Board and Ann McFall, defendants, and alleges:

1. This is an action brought under section 102,168, Florida Statutes (2004), to contest the certification that Ann McFall received more votes in the November 2 General Election in Volusia County, Florida, than did Patricia Northey.

2. Plaintiff is an elector resident and qualified to vote in Volusia County, Florida, residing at (redacted address).

3. Defendant Volusia County Canvassing Board consists of Joie Alexander, Member of the Volusia County Council, the Honorable Steven deLarouche, County Judge, and Deanie Lowe, Supervisor of Elections.

4. Defendant Ann McFall, (redacted address), is the candidate certified by the defendant Canvassing Board to have won the November 2, 2004 election for Supervisor of Elections.

5. Plaintiff has been informed that the Volusia County Canvassing Board certified the election results on November 12, 2004. Plaintiff is aware that the statutory deadline for filing this complaint is ten days following the date of that certification. Plaintiff alleges, however, that this complaint should be deemed timely filed for two reasons:

a. The Supervisor of Elections has unreasonably delayed providing information on which this complaint must be based, and still has not provided all of that information. The Canvassing Board is therefore estopped from asserting an untimely filing of this complaint.

b. The certification was based on inadequate and incomplete information regarding the election results, as will more particularly appear, and is, therefore, an invalid certification of those results.

6. A copy of the public records request emailed and faxed to the Supervisor of Elections on November 2, 2004, is attached. Some or all of the information requested is still missing from 59 of the 179 voting precincts, including portions of or all of the voting machine tapes for those 59 precincts, which are a vital part of official paper record of the election results from those precincts.

7. Complete information on problems with the voting machines prior to and during the election has not been provided.

8. Complete information relating to memory card failures during the election has not yet been provided.

9. Only a partial list of the transmission logs from the Accu-Vote optical scan server has been provided. Despite repeated requests, the Elections office has refused to provide to the Volusia County Democratic party the official election results, now stating that those results will not be available until December 1, 2004.

10. The Elections office has provided incomplete data regarding Early Voting and Absentee ballots. The Supervisor of Elections, for example, reported that the total number of absentee ballots and Early voting ballots, combined equaled 89,999 votes, yet the published figures for those totals is 84,100 votes, leaving over 5,800 votes unaccounted for.

11. Section 102, 168(3)(a) Florida Statutes (2004) provides that an election may be set aside for "misconduct, fraud, or corruption on the part of any election official or any member of the canvassing board sufficient to change or place in doubt the result of the election."

12. In Beckstrom v. Volusia County Canvassing Board, et al, 707 S. 2d 720 (Fla. 1998) the Florida Supreme Court said: "... if a court finds substantial noncompliance with statutory election procedures and also makes a factual determination that reasonable doubt exists as to whether a certified election expressed the will of the voters, then the court in an election contest brought pursuant to section 102.168, Florida Statutes (1997), is to void the contested election even in the absence of fraud or intentional wrongdoing."

13. In addition to the pattern of delay in providing the requested information, the true election results are in doubt because of numerous violations of election law procedure and unanswered questions concerning the results.

14. The polls were opened early and closed late during Early Voting.

15. Many public records, including one signed results tape from a voting machine were found in the trash. Many of the requested records not furnished by the Elections office have been found in the trash. Results from the tapes found in the trash do not match the results of the copies of tapes furnished.

16. An email from Mark Earley, of Diebold Elections Systems, Inc., to the Elections office was provided which asked the recipient for an explanation of why Volusia County had more memory card failures than all of their other Florida customers combined, and then asked why the 17 memory card failures which the Elections office reported on November 3, increased to 25 before November 12, 2004.

17. The reported memory card failures were significant and troubling and included reporting zero votes after one week of voting, requesting permission to upload votes before the voting began, and messaging whether the card should be reformatted.

18. According to a statement by the Supervisor of Elections on November 17, 2004, the GEMS computer is not networked, and is "stand alone." The furnished computer logs show evidence of at least two attempts to remotely access the GEMS central tabulator, which is claimed to be secure. A computer screen shot printout on November 17, 2004 (found in the trash) shows that the GEMS computer at that time had two networked hard drives.

19. Plaintiff is reasonably concerned that access to the memory cards and voting machine tapes is presently not restricted, and that the opportunity for tampering with that critical evidence exists. Plaintiff accordingly requests that This Honorable Court immediately order the Supervisor of Elections to seal and sequester all memory cards and voting machine tapes pertaining to or used during the November 2, 2004 general election in Volusia County, during the pendency of this Cause.

WHEREFORE, Plaintiff respectfully requests that this court order the immediate sealing of all memory cards and voting machine tapes pertaining to or used during the November 2, 2004 general election, and after hearing the evidence in this cause, set aside that general election of November 2, 2004.

SUSAN ROSE PYNCHON

DANIEL R. VAUGHEN, P.A.
Attorney for Plaintiff
Fla. Bar No. 083486


I'm 100% positive that this is just the tip of the iceberg.
 

conjur

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It's time the government and all political parties got together and demanded a completely overhauled voting process that provides accountability and a paper audit trail.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: conjur
It's time the government and all political parties got together and demanded a completely overhauled voting process that provides accountability and a paper audit trail.

Why??? There is no "voting" neccessary for a Theocratic Government.

 

GoPackGo

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time to take off the tinfoil hats everyone...nothing major will come from this.
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: GoPackGo
time to take off the tinfoil hats everyone...nothing major will come from this.

Nothing tinfoil about this... nothing at all. Now what do you make of what's going on in Volusia County, FL?
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: GoPackGo
time to take off the tinfoil hats everyone...nothing major will come from this.

So far that has been tough to do, must be all those layers that were put on the Hat as the Radical Right turned up the power on the Brainwashing waves. Not too worry, they still have four years to get the job done again.

 

Thump553

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Originally posted by: conjur
It's time the government and all political parties got together and demanded a completely overhauled voting process that provides accountability and a paper audit trail.

I totally agree with conjur on this one. The USA is alone among the major democracies in having it's elections run by clearly partisan officials. Don't get me wrong-I've personally worked in election monitoring in several jurisdictions and know my local election officials. I'm firmly convinced that at least 95% of the people that work in elections perform in a totally honest manner and as even-handed as possible and we all owe a hat's off salute to them. It's the corrupt areas of the country, like Chicago, Texas, etc. that worry me-especially these days when the last two elections were determined by a single state.

But as Stalin pointed out, what matters is not who is voting, but who is counting the votes. By any rationale standard the 2000 election (especially in Florida) was an embarassment and a debacle. Despite enormous cries for reform, very little was actually accomplished. We need an overhaul from top to bottom, at least in our elections for federal offices. At a minimum the election process should be administered and run by NON-PARTISAN officials. The voting process should be as simple as possible, with as many safeguards against fraud or error as possible. Until the day when hard drives, etc. become 100% infalible, we should have a 100% paper trail.

This is a country that sent men to the moon, basically using sliderule technology. In many diverse areas, such as computer technology and medical advances, our technology has reached breaktaking levels. There is no reason for our election process to remain the unreliable swamp that it is, except that the entrenched powers benefit from the status quo.
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: Thump553
Originally posted by: conjur
It's time the government and all political parties got together and demanded a completely overhauled voting process that provides accountability and a paper audit trail.

I totally agree with conjur on this one. The USA is alone among the major democracies in having it's elections run by clearly partisan officials. Don't get me wrong-I've personally worked in election monitoring in several jurisdictions and know my local election officials. I'm firmly convinced that at least 95% of the people that work in elections perform in a totally honest manner and as even-handed as possible and we all owe a hat's off salute to them. It's the corrupt areas of the country, like Chicago, Texas, etc. that worry me-especially these days when the last two elections were determined by a single state.

But as Stalin pointed out, what matters is not who is voting, but who is counting the votes. By any rationale standard the 2000 election (especially in Florida) was an embarassment and a debacle. Despite enormous cries for reform, very little was actually accomplished. We need an overhaul from top to bottom, at least in our elections for federal offices. At a minimum the election process should be administered and run by NON-PARTISAN officials. The voting process should be as simple as possible, with as many safeguards against fraud or error as possible. Until the day when hard drives, etc. become 100% infalible, we should have a 100% paper trail.

This is a country that sent men to the moon, basically using sliderule technology. In many diverse areas, such as computer technology and medical advances, our technology has reached breaktaking levels. There is no reason for our election process to remain the unreliable swamp that it is, except that the entrenched powers benefit from the status quo.

Bravo! Nice post. :thumbsup:
 

GoPackGo

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Originally posted by: Thump553
Originally posted by: conjur
It's time the government and all political parties got together and demanded a completely overhauled voting process that provides accountability and a paper audit trail.

I totally agree with conjur on this one. The USA is alone among the major democracies in having it's elections run by clearly partisan officials. Don't get me wrong-I've personally worked in election monitoring in several jurisdictions and know my local election officials. I'm firmly convinced that at least 95% of the people that work in elections perform in a totally honest manner and as even-handed as possible and we all owe a hat's off salute to them. It's the corrupt areas of the country, like Chicago, Texas, etc. that worry me-especially these days when the last two elections were determined by a single state.

But as Stalin pointed out, what matters is not who is voting, but who is counting the votes. By any rationale standard the 2000 election (especially in Florida) was an embarassment and a debacle. Despite enormous cries for reform, very little was actually accomplished. We need an overhaul from top to bottom, at least in our elections for federal offices. At a minimum the election process should be administered and run by NON-PARTISAN officials. The voting process should be as simple as possible, with as many safeguards against fraud or error as possible. Until the day when hard drives, etc. become 100% infalible, we should have a 100% paper trail.

This is a country that sent men to the moon, basically using sliderule technology. In many diverse areas, such as computer technology and medical advances, our technology has reached breaktaking levels. There is no reason for our election process to remain the unreliable swamp that it is, except that the entrenched powers benefit from the status quo.

So perhaps the next MTV choose or lose campaign will be "get out the count"?

 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: conjur
It's time the government and all political parties got together and demanded a completely overhauled voting process that provides accountability and a paper audit trail.

Agreed. How can we hold elections in Afghanistan and Iraq, when we can't even get our own elections right? This is pathetic. I salute those who are seeking out the truth in this past election. Go BlackBox go!
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: shinerburke
See sig.....
It's not about who won. That's not going to change.

It's about fixing the problems. Can you imagine how many local races might have been affected?
 
Sep 12, 2004
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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
No surprise here. Volusia was one of the blue counties in Florida.
Barely.

http://volusia.org/elections/nov2a.htm

Regardless, how did the home of NASCAR end up voting in favor of democrats at all?

Maybe the dems have more redneck, knuckle-draggin', beer-swillin', mouth-breathin' supporters than one would be led to believe?
 

LTC8K6

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Allegations are still only allegations and anybody can sue over anything. I will wait and see what actually happens.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
No surprise here. Volusia was one of the blue counties in Florida.
Barely.

http://volusia.org/elections/nov2a.htm
Regardless, how did the home of NASCAR end up voting in favor of democrats at all?

Maybe the dems have more redneck, knuckle-draggin', beer-swillin', mouth-breathin' supporters than one would be led to believe?
Troll much?

Oh yeah...you do.

Ever been to Volusia County? I'm guessing you haven't.
 
Sep 12, 2004
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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
No surprise here. Volusia was one of the blue counties in Florida.
Barely.

http://volusia.org/elections/nov2a.htm
Regardless, how did the home of NASCAR end up voting in favor of democrats at all?

Maybe the dems have more redneck, knuckle-draggin', beer-swillin', mouth-breathin' supporters than one would be led to believe?
Troll much?

Oh yeah...you do.
Well a fox smells its own hole first, as the saying goes.

Ever been to Volusia County? I'm guessing you haven't.
I live in Orange County, another blue county btw, and go to Volusia frequently to surf Ponce Inlet as well as party in Daytona. Also, I worked for an IT company in Daytona Beach last year and drove there every day.

gg on the bad assumption. Seems to be par for the course for so many like you in here though who would love to tell us all how we should think and what we should know.

Later, trollus majorus.
 

conjur

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Then if you're that familiar with that area you'd realize what a bone-headed statement you just made.
 
Sep 12, 2004
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Originally posted by: conjur
Then if you're that familiar with that area you'd realize what a bone-headed statement you just made.
Or maybe it's because I AM quite familiar with that area that I can make that statement partially tongue-in-cheek with a dash of sarcastic flavoring to spice it up?

Try reading it again. It's guaranteed to provide you with your recommended daily requirement of irony.
 

dannybin1742

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we reall do need to get both parties together and make a new voting system that is required by all state in any election so we can stop this damn squabling about votes counted, and the apparent unwillinginess of state election official, normally republican that simply don't want to cooperate
 

LunarRay

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13. Many public records, including one signed results tape from a voting machine were found in the trash. Many of the requested records not furnished by the Elections office have been found in the trash. Results from the tapes found in the trash do not match the results of the copies of tapes furnished.

I selected this one item to comment on but each item is problematic in and of itself.

How can the trash be the receptacle of voting data? How can there be two such tapes from the same election and more importantly them be different? How were they generated if the vote cast is contained on the first tape.... who voted to generate the second tape? I could understand a back up tape trashed but it would be the same as the one furnished... I'd think... and hope.
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: LunarRay
13. Many public records, including one signed results tape from a voting machine were found in the trash. Many of the requested records not furnished by the Elections office have been found in the trash. Results from the tapes found in the trash do not match the results of the copies of tapes furnished.

I selected this one item to comment on but each item is problematic in and of itself.

How can the trash be the receptacle of voting data? How can there be two such tapes from the same election and more importantly them be different? How were they generated if the vote cast is contained on the first tape.... who voted to generate the second tape? I could understand a back up tape trashed but it would be the same as the one furnished... I'd think... and hope.

I think in this county we saw a Kerry-shaving or a Bush-padding, either one....
 
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Originally posted by: conjur
It's time the government and all political parties got together and demanded a completely overhauled voting process that provides accountability and a paper audit trail.

Kerry won!