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Extremely Reliable Operating System?

Originally posted by: MedicBob
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
No, but my iBook has been up for 81 days.

LOL, a laptop "up" 81 days! What are you doing to it/with it to require that much uptime?

Nothing. I run a DC project on it on occassion. Just set it to the side, turn off the screen, and go to sleep when Im done. I like being able to wake up and connect immediately. I have put it to sleep on occassion, but thats just usually when transporting it somewhere.
 
Originally posted by: Bremen
I need a reliabe supply of electricity before I can even think of keeping a computer up that long.

Thats why my laptop is the only one that has been up that long 😉
 
Originally posted by: DieHardware
Anyone running EROS?
Are you looking for an extremely reliable OS? Since EROS is not as widely deployed as most other mainstream OSes (BSD's, Linux, HP-Unix, SunOS, MS Win, etc.), you will probably have to sacrifice compatibility for reliability with this EROS. That is if there claims are true, ones that I doubt many AT forum members can atest to, and may be left for you to decide with your own tests.
I could be wrong though.

So if you are thinking implementing it for whatever reason(s), or more specifically looking for a reliable OS, I do not think you can go wrong with decent PC hardware these days and installing one of the BSD's (NetBSD, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, etc.) or even that Linux based OS some people have been gawking about... 😀 ... if you are you are looking for a(n) (extremely) reliable OS.
 
i've been running a old 486 server (compaq proliant.) running debian with about 60 megs or so of mismatched generic RAM that I "overclocked" with a pentium overdrive chip (85 mhz woo-ho!). It runs my ftp,ssh,nfs,samba,apache services, (although all I ever really use is ftp and ssh). I cleaned my basement about a week ago and I had to shut it off to move it. When I moved that big 75 pound monster of obsolete and propriatory compaq technology big chunks of (literaly CHUNKS) of dust fell out of the vents.

I checked the uptime before hand though to see how long it was running since I last rebooted it. I didn't even have a keyboard or monitor attached to it. I had to dig a some up out of my pipe-o-nasty-computer parts. It had been running nonstop for about 8 and a half months. The last time it rebooted before that was due to a brown-out, I beleive. Never had it freeze up or have a memory leak or anything, (having no gui installed probably helps out a lot though) although occasionly ssh gets to many ghost sessions going and I have to kill and restart that service (don't have to reboot to do that)

Is that reliable enough? 😛
 
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Oops I am a moron, now that I think about it, it was realy 89 days uptime not 8 months, heh, sorry.
my city's electrical supply isn't that good 🙁
 
Doesn't look very complete or usable to me. At least I couldn't find much about it on the website. 😕

For now, when I need an extremely reliable operating system, I will choose one of the BSDs, or Linux. 😎
 
Originally posted by: MedicBob
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
No, but my iBook has been up for 81 days.

LOL, a laptop "up" 81 days! What are you doing to it/with it to require that much uptime?

hehe No, the question is if you haven't moved it for 81 days WHY THE HECK DON'T YOU SAVE SOME MONEY AND GET A DESKTOP NEXT TIME???????????


😀
 
Originally posted by: MedicBob
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
No, but my iBook has been up for 81 days.

LOL, a laptop "up" 81 days! What are you doing to it/with it to require that much uptime?
I take my laptop back and forth between home and my office daily, I use hibernate when I transport it so (technically) it has a very long uptime also.
although since while it's hibernating it doesnt count as uptime I doubt I've hit 81 days with it.

-Spy
 
Originally posted by: Smilin
Originally posted by: MedicBob
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
No, but my iBook has been up for 81 days.

LOL, a laptop "up" 81 days! What are you doing to it/with it to require that much uptime?
hehe No, the question is if you haven't moved it for 81 days WHY THE HECK DON'T YOU SAVE SOME MONEY AND GET A DESKTOP NEXT TIME???????????

😀
Although his laptop hasn't been rebooted in 81 days, that doesn't mean he hasn't "suspended" it, turned it off, and carried it around at various times. Since a "suspension" saves the contents of the RAM, thus never actually shutting off the OS or closing any programs, it doesn't count away from his uptime.
 
Originally posted by: jliechty
Originally posted by: Smilin
Originally posted by: MedicBob
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
No, but my iBook has been up for 81 days.

LOL, a laptop "up" 81 days! What are you doing to it/with it to require that much uptime?
hehe No, the question is if you haven't moved it for 81 days WHY THE HECK DON'T YOU SAVE SOME MONEY AND GET A DESKTOP NEXT TIME???????????

😀
Although his laptop hasn't been rebooted in 81 days, that doesn't mean he hasn't "suspended" it, turned it off, and carried it around at various times. Since a "suspension" saves the contents of the RAM, thus never actually shutting off the OS or closing any programs, it doesn't count away from his uptime.

It has been suspended/sleeping for no more than 2-3 days of the 80 some odd days it has been up. I got the laptop before I got the wireless network. I do take it with me on occassioon when I have something I want to work on. And finally, I have plenty of desktops, just one laptop.
 
n0cmonkey wrote;
No, but my iBook has been up for 81 days.

Must be one of those new plutonium models 😛 😀


Poontos wrote;
Are you looking for an extremely reliable OS?

Hey its just an acronym for this OS. Its mentioned in a security article about win2k in IEEE's Computer mag.
 
The most reliable OS I know of is Tru64 Unix/Digital Unix/OSF whatever you want to call it! Toghether with the best computer system
available it rocks (Alpha machine) not forgetting the UPS!

Our campus main email servers used these babies with uptimes of more than 400 days each time, only going down to perform
some serious security update or maintenance! ... They were retired last year after some cost cut back, they were replaced with
some HP pc running win2000... needless to say that we're having email problems ever since!

 
Go get some used SPARC box or something, like a used Enterprise 250 or something, get two disks so you can setup a mirror, then install Solaris, you'll have a nice stable setup there 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Sunner
Go get some used SPARC box or something, like a used Enterprise 250 or something, get two disks so you can setup a mirror, then install Solaris, you'll have a nice stable setup there 🙂

Ive got a 250 on loan from Sun at work. It refuses to boot off of the hard drives by default. I dont like the 250 😛

280s on the other hand...
 
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Sunner
Go get some used SPARC box or something, like a used Enterprise 250 or something, get two disks so you can setup a mirror, then install Solaris, you'll have a nice stable setup there 🙂

Ive got a 250 on loan from Sun at work. It refuses to boot off of the hard drives by default. I dont like the 250 😛

280s on the other hand...

I've never played with a 280(we're moving from Sun -> HPaq/Linux at work🙁 ), but I love the 250's.

We have a bunch of them at work, they're of course not very fast by today's standards, the rackmount kits sucks donkey balls, and they're just generally rather cumbersome, but once they're up and running, they're solid 🙂

If you ever catch a flight to Sweden, and don't mind dragging along an extra 50 kg's of luggage, bring that 250 with you and I'll get you a case of Belgian beer for it 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Sunner
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Sunner
Go get some used SPARC box or something, like a used Enterprise 250 or something, get two disks so you can setup a mirror, then install Solaris, you'll have a nice stable setup there 🙂

Ive got a 250 on loan from Sun at work. It refuses to boot off of the hard drives by default. I dont like the 250 😛

280s on the other hand...

I've never played with a 280(we're moving from Sun -> HPaq/Linux at work🙁 ), but I love the 250's.

We have a bunch of them at work, they're of course not very fast by today's standards, the rackmount kits sucks donkey balls, and they're just generally rather cumbersome, but once they're up and running, they're solid 🙂

If you ever catch a flight to Sweden, and don't mind dragging along an extra 50 kg's of luggage, bring that 250 with you and I'll get you a case of Belgian beer for it 🙂

I thought about it, and I believe its a 450, not a 250. Id bring it along, but like I said, its a loaner 😉

The newer sunfire stuff rocks though.
 
Argh, those 450's are NOT fun to mount in a rack, me and another guy around here had to put one pretty high up in a 42U rack once...nearly pulled out my back.

Aside from the obvious benefits, such as US-III's, cheaper memory, etc, what's improved in the Sunfire's compared to the Enterprise's?
I mean just stuff such as the chassis, rackmount kits, etc?

All of the Enterprises suck pretty bad in most such respects, heck I cut up a pretty bad wound in my hand just while trying to pull out a harddrive from an E250 once, still have a 5cm long scar from that one :/
 
Originally posted by: Sunner
Argh, those 450's are NOT fun to mount in a rack, me and another guy around here had to put one pretty high up in a 42U rack once...nearly pulled out my back.

I dont think the 450 is rackable... Is it? I know its got wheels and we were using it as a table for a short period of time in the office as we waited for new disks 😛

Aside from the obvious benefits, such as US-III's, cheaper memory, etc, what's improved in the Sunfire's compared to the Enterprise's?
I mean just stuff such as the chassis, rackmount kits, etc?

We just got 2x 280Rs, 1x V480, 1x v120, and 1x 4800. The 4800 came pre-racked. Its a neat little machine. It also gave me a chance to talk up IBM solutions to the Sun Engineers that came over to set it up 😛

The 280s are very easy to rack, and I managed to do the 480 with just a little help from a co-worker. The 280s and the 480 have a card that will let us get to the boot prom without being local and hooking up a laptop to the machine. So I can sit at my desk, bring the machine to init 0, play around, and boot into Solaris without ever touching the machine itself. Pretty nice from a support standpoint.

Comparing speeds between the 280 and the 450 is like comparing a 486/66 to an Athlon 1800. We got Solaris installed in about 2 hours on the 280s, where the 450 took much longer. Very nice.

All of the Enterprises suck pretty bad in most such respects, heck I cut up a pretty bad wound in my hand just while trying to pull out a harddrive from an E250 once, still have a 5cm long scar from that one :/

Ive managed to not hurt myself on the Sun stuff yet, except for a squashed finger here and there.
 
Actually the 450's are rackmountable, but to me it seems like it's more of an afterthought, basically the rackmount kit is a rackmountable shelf where you put the 450 with wheels and all.
Pretty much the only thing that makes it more than just a rackmountable shelf are little tracks for the wheels and a locking mechanism to make sure it doesn't accidently roll out and fall straight through the floor 🙂

Damn hard to think they actually sold those beasts as workstations, who the he** would stand having one of those monsters beside their desk? 😛

Wish I could play with some of Sun's new stuff, I like the SPARC/Solaris combo 🙁
Damn shame we're moving away from it, it's nice stuff, only so damn expensive for a small company.
 
My 2k box at work has been up >60 days without issue (reboot for stupid software install and a power outage), my linux server went to almost 60 and than went down taking the whole filesystem with it
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Originally posted by: Sunner
Actually the 450's are rackmountable, but to me it seems like it's more of an afterthought, basically the rackmount kit is a rackmountable shelf where you put the 450 with wheels and all.
Pretty much the only thing that makes it more than just a rackmountable shelf are little tracks for the wheels and a locking mechanism to make sure it doesn't accidently roll out and fall straight through the floor 🙂

Damn hard to think they actually sold those beasts as workstations, who the he** would stand having one of those monsters beside their desk? 😛

Wish I could play with some of Sun's new stuff, I like the SPARC/Solaris combo 🙁
Damn shame we're moving away from it, it's nice stuff, only so damn expensive for a small company.

I can only imagine how a 450 looks on a shelf like that... Ive got 2 workstations under my desk, thats just a little smaller than a 450...
 
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