EXTREME web design

Barnaby W. Füi · Feb 15, 2003

neat, or just hard on the eyes? (if that link doesnt work)

And how does IE handle it?

Edit:

Alright, redesigned now, very tame. IE screenshots of this one much appreciated too, if you can swing it, thanks.

Eli · Feb 15, 2003

I don't really understand.

Am I supposed to be evaulating the colors?

Barnaby W. Füi · Feb 15, 2003

Don't ask me.

dakata24 · Feb 15, 2003

interesting...

Barnaby W. Füi · Feb 15, 2003

Yeah, "neat" covers: colors, layout, the dotted and dashed crap, i.e. does it look nice, or does it look like crap?

VBboy · Feb 15, 2003

Terrible GUI. Bad choice of link colors, button styles, background and foreground color.
To be more helpful:

Links should be of the conventional blue/ish color, if possible.
On the top, the links arranged as a toolbar are unconventional and confusing.
Colors are odd and the combination of fore/back color is unfriendly.

Dell.com and Compaq.com are my #1 recommended sites usually

Sorry

<-- Quality-assured two corporate sites for a year

Barnaby W. Füi · Feb 15, 2003

Originally posted by: VBboy
Hmm.

Pinging incise.org [12.217.125.166] with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Yep, thats the old address, dns is still repropogating, it should be 12.217.123.219. Depending on where you are and whatnot, if you try to resolve incise.org a bunch of times in a row, you may get alternating answers. Damn dns

Barnaby W. Füi · Feb 15, 2003

Originally posted by: VBboy
Terrible GUI. Bad choice of link colors, button styles, background and foreground color.

Sorry

<-- Quality-assured two corporate sites for a year

Yeah, the link colors were hard to come up with, but I wanted to try to stick to as few colors as possible.

Er...hey wait, the red, I didn't notice those links, not intended... /me goes to fix

MC · Feb 15, 2003

terrible colors.

Barnaby W. Füi · Feb 15, 2003

Originally posted by: MingChia
terrible colors.

Anyone kind enough to take a screenshot of it in IE?

gopunk · Feb 15, 2003

the colors are a preference for the most part, but if nothing else, you should really increase the contrast in text color and background color.

VBboy · Feb 15, 2003

I edited my post to include more info.

In general, avoid trying to be unconventional. Interface should be standard. it's the information on your site that should help your site to stand out, not the way the site looks. Use comforting colors like blue, yellowish; red is used for error messages; yellow for warnings. Links should be blue unless you pick a different theme and stick to it, like all green links (eww

).

Many colors don't mix as they deliver low-contrast text.

I would recommend looking on Google for "web site design interface" or something like that. There have been studies on how to make a simple yet appealing site and attract users.

Good luck.

gopunk · Feb 15, 2003

for the most part the same, except the little border squares turned into dots, there were no colons in the random links at the bottom, and there are boxes around the links in the menu and second content table.

VBboy · Feb 15, 2003

Originally posted by: gopunk
the colors are a preference for the most part, but if nothing else, you should really increase the contrast in text color and background color.

Colors are only a preference in little personal sites

In corporate and even larger personal sites, there are sets of recommended colors that people generally find appealing. Lime green, bright yellow, pink are not among those...

But the worst thing a designer can do is pick a bad color for links, like black or grey. For example, did anyone know that on this AienWare computer page, all the parts of the PC are clickable?

Barnaby W. Füi · Feb 15, 2003

Originally posted by: VBboy
I edited my post to include more info.

In general, avoid trying to be unconventional.

Ah, that's exactly what I'm doing, being unconventional

Interface should be standard. it's the information on your site that should help your site to stand out, not the way the site looks. Use comforting colors like blue, yellowish; red is used for error messages; yellow for warnings. Links should be blue unless you pick a different theme and stick to it, like all green links (eww ).

Yeah yeah yeah, believe it or not I am aware of these things.

My primary aim was not useability (although I don't think I hampered it much, considering the targetted audience), but just experimentation with cool CSS stuff, and having fun. This is a personal site, fun is good

Many colors don't mix as they deliver low-contrast text.

The low contrast was in my mind the whole time, and overall there are some things I want to change, but I'm not in a thinking mood so I'll get back to it tomorrow or something

There have been studies on how to make a simple yet appealing site and attract users.

Ah, yeah, BUT -- simple is boring, and I don't care about attracting anymore users.

Barnaby W. Füi · Feb 15, 2003

Originally posted by: gopunk
for the most part the same, except the little border squares turned into dots, there were no colons in the random links at the bottom, and there are boxes around the links in the menu and second content table.

Hm, dots as in circles? :Q

The colons I know won't show up, IE doesn't support :before or :after.

And the boxes - no clue, must be some IE limitation on styling table elements or something.

gopunk · Feb 15, 2003

Originally posted by: VBboy

Originally posted by: gopunk
the colors are a preference for the most part, but if nothing else, you should really increase the contrast in text color and background color.

Click to expand...

Colors are only a preference in little personal sites In corporate and even larger personal sites, there are sets of recommended colors that people generally find appealing. Lime green, bright yellow, pink are not among those...

But the worst thing a designer can do is pick a bad color for links, like black or grey. For example, did anyone know that on this AienWare computer page, all the parts of the PC are clickable?

lay off the nielsen

seriously, he's not god.

while "usability" is important for corporate and other sites where you have a message you need to deliver, i don't thnk it's that bad to play around for other projects.

gopunk · Feb 15, 2003

Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey

Originally posted by: gopunk
for the most part the same, except the little border squares turned into dots, there were no colons in the random links at the bottom, and there are boxes around the links in the menu and second content table.

Click to expand...

Hm, dots as in circles? :Q

The colons I know won't show up, IE doesn't support :before or :after.

And the boxes - no clue, must be some IE limitation on styling table elements or something.

mm... with my limited knowledge of css, my guess is that the links are bounded by boxes... and IE for some reason defaulted to putting a border on those boxes. that's just my guess though. if i'm right.. you could set border=none or whatever the syntax is...

DannyLove · Feb 15, 2003

edit: nm was thinking of something else....i need sleep

gopunk · Feb 15, 2003

Originally posted by: DannyLove
is there a point to this? there are millions of horrible web designs how is this any different from them?

fun?

VBboy · Feb 15, 2003

If you search on Google for "worst web sites", you'll find some scary-looking stuff

Barnaby W. Füi · Feb 15, 2003

Originally posted by: DannyLove
is there a point to this? there are millions of horrible web designs how is this any different from them?

This one's mine, and you're a party pooper. No one else here appreciates some creativity and originality? You guys would prefer another #fff/#ddd/grey/blue webpage over one that's at least creative?

DannyLove · Feb 15, 2003

Originally posted by: VBboy

Originally posted by: DannyLove
edit: nm was thinking of something else....i need sleep

Click to expand...

Of course there is a point. He wants to be BETTER! And we're trying to help.

haha yea i apologize i didn't realize it was HIS design, thought he was just showing us a ugly design webpage rofl

VBboy · Feb 15, 2003

Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey

Originally posted by: DannyLove
is there a point to this? there are millions of horrible web designs how is this any different from them?

Click to expand...

This one's mine, and you're a party pooper. No one else here appreciates some creativity and originality? You guys would prefer another #fff/#ddd/grey/blue webpage over one that's at least creative?

Damn straight

We would come to your site for the hot and spicy stories you write or the pics of you and your special someone, not because you can confuse any optical character recognition software with them fancy pinkredorangeyellow combos

Don't get discouraged, though! We want to help

Barnaby W. Füi · Feb 15, 2003

for the conformist in everyone, here's some more eyeball friendly looks I've done in the past:

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this one's kinda weird too
real off the wall (refresh it and it changes colors

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and if above links don't work:
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this one's kinda weird too
real off the wall (refresh it and it changes colors

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