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Extreme Water cooling - tell me what u think

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Matt155

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Ok, I want to get into water cooling in the next couple of months when I put together a new rig, so here is an idea I came up with. My computer rarely moves from the spot its in and I hate running to the refrig for drinks all the time. So I am thinking of buying one of those small refrigerators, u know they are under $150, and putting it next or close to my computer. Then I would install the radiator, resover, and pump on the bottom portion of the refrig, drill 2 hole for the inlet and outlet hoses that will run to my tower, I would install quick connect fittings on the back of the tower. I'm thinking that I might even need 2 pumps because it might be a longer run, but I would not have to worry about any noise because when your shut the door on the refrig, u cant hear anything. So doing this, I would be accomplishing 2 major feets, eliminating noise and extreme cooling.
So what your guys thinks about this idea?
 
condesation when openeing the fridge would get little dops of water all over your parts unless u let it it for a while and get the inside of the pc to come down to room temperature before you opened it, if u ARE thinking of putting ur pc in the fridge
 
either you guys didn't read his post, or I can't read.

I believe he's saying running the water through the fridge. not his computer.

you should try it. actually I've seen it done, I can't remember where I saw it. except the dude only ran the res. and rad. not pump thru the fridge.
 
Originally posted by: HardWarrior
Two birds with one stone? Cool drinks, cool computer... I like it! Carry on! 😉
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LOL, that would wake some SERIOUS interest at lan parties 😀
 
Many refridgerators are designed to make something cold and keep it cold. I've heard they aren't designed to deal with a constant and high source of heat, and can easily fail. I dunno thought, it might be worth a try if you get a cheap fridge. Also, becareful of condensation inside your pc with those cool tubes.
 
yea, u'd probably risk killing that fridge. who knows, it might last a while, u'd testing uncharted waters🙂 do it, report back on progress when or if it breaks etc. 3 radiator or more thermochill or dangerden would be a better way to spend the money though
 
Condensation would form (in about 1-4 minutes, depending on room temps) on your hoses, waterblock etcetera, leading to a very unspectacular and complete destruction of your PC unless you carefully insulate the hoses and water block..
 
Yes, condensation will be your problem with that setup.
It can be overcome, but it would be more work than you want to put into it, since you can't bring yourself to walk to the frig. for a drink.
😛
 
What if they put the entire computer inside the refrigerater, but covered it with something like plexiglass. Then have an intake that would be near where the cold air goes into the inside of the fridge, and channel some of that air straight to the cpu and whatever other components through some type of insulated piping or something so as to keep condensation from forming inside of the plexiglass enclosure.

I don't know if that makes sense to anyone, or if it would work better or worse or anything.

To take this idea a step further, get a deep freeze and put the entire computer in there. Once again put the computer components inside some sort of enclosure so as to keep condensation and the buildup of frost and stuff away from them.
 
Your idea might work, although assuming the refrigerator is a very very reliable one that can handle the constant heat intake, it will produce quite a bit of heat through the back of the refrigerator and yoru room will heat up.
 
Slap the whole thing in the fridge... Install some buttons in the side for On/Off & Restart... Use an external firewire enclosure for the optical drives and you've got it made.
 
Ok only thing I would be worrying about would be condensation on the hose or the blocks in side of the computer but I'm thinking that cooling the processor, northbridge and GPU with high speed pump would keep the water circulating so fast that it will do much better job than normal water cooling but it won't make the water too cold. I mean the temperature of the water itself in normal water cooling is probably about the same temp as the temp inside the case it self, say 30 degree celcius. With my setup, I would assume I can get the water temp to at least 5 to 10 degrees celcius cooler, I don't believe that temp of the water will be cold enough to create condensation inside of the computer because I will still have air flow in the case with nice quite 120mm fans.
Oh condensation on the parts inside of the refrig would not worry me, and I had a small refrig in the past and they last for a long time even with constant use.
Anyone know at what temp a typical hose will say start condensation at room temperature?
 
Okay, so that guy connected a high-heat-transfer radiator to the Heatsink, and cooled the radiator.

And, BTW, the whole fridge thing was a joke. It would kill you computer, even if you never opened the fridge.
 
I ran my setup with the Res, and Rad in a fridge way back when with a p3 650, but ended up going to a Freezer, as the fridge wouldn't keep up. Below is a link to the pics,etc at Overclockers, it was a rather crude setup, but it worked.
Nowadays I use a Chiller to cool the water in the Res. Best way to control condensation is to use a digital temp controller tho, as then you can dial in on a temp high enough that will not condensate in your setup.
Generally speaking, condensation will form at 12 to 17f difference from ambient temp.


http://www.overclockers.com/tips98/
 
I made a home made water fountain at work one time. We set a 50 foot coil of 1/4 inch copper inside the fridge. You pushed the button on the fountain for water, the water went through the coil before it got to you. Plus, what was standing in the coil was already cold. I would like to see some flow tests from say 50 foot of 3/8 on a Eheim or Hydor pump and see how it fairs. Sounds like a good idea to me. Hell, you might not even need a radiator or fans if you could move enough water through a long coil like that without too much flow restriction.
 
All you need to add is.

A small microwave on top to rehaet cold pizza. Maybe you could stack teh cold pizza on top of the radiator to help cool it down even more, then just place it in the microwave, warm it up, grab a soda and your set.

Then just get one of those mobile toilet chairs from an old folks home. Then you'll never have to get up.
 
Originally posted by: thelanx
Many refridgerators are designed to make something cold and keep it cold. I've heard they aren't designed to deal with a constant and high source of heat, and can easily fail. I dunno thought, it might be worth a try if you get a cheap fridge. Also, becareful of condensation inside your pc with those cool tubes.
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i agree, condensation will build-up and the fridge will live a short life
 
i did a version of what you are trying to do 4 years ago and it worked too well even when i covered all the lines to the waterblock and the wb with 3/4 in. insulation. condensation is a computer killer! check out what asetech had to do to solve the problem and you will have to do the same thing or you will have to keep the inlet water at a higher temp that will not cause much condensation (very, very little because, obviously, the amount will fluctuate with room temp. and the efficiency of the frig. will vary ) and place a fan to remove ANY hint of water that might accumulate on the wb, lines, back of mb, etc. . many people have done this in just as many ways and it's a lot of work. check out <overclockers.com> if you want to see some examples.

i eventually choose to use a less complicated system, including the video card, with a few low speed 120 mm fans with rpm controls, i like the papst ones, and a good radiator. it can accomplish almost the same thing without the risk. temps will be much better than any air cooled system if you do it right and there will be virtually no noise. take your time and be sure to let the system run for many hours to check for any leaks before turning on your computer. good luck with your project.
 
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