Exploring the mmorpg/rpg realm,need suggestions on good games.:)

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Markbnj

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I don't want to discourage you from the game - I saw lots of people play and love it, and if you do, great.

My experience was that I like Star Trek, but did not like the game much for these reasons:

Combat - well this was going to be a problem regardless, as the TV show combat is not well suited to a game - so anything they came up with was going to have to be pretty different from that - but I just didn't enjoy it that much. I can see where people could get better at it, and there were things to learn, like much in the game they didn't make it that clear.

Obscure gameplay - I found this to probably be the game hardest to get good info on the items and skills and such. You'd get a drop of some item with no idea what it does - and file it away hoping to find out someday. You'd be asked to pick skills for crew members - and have little idea what good choices were. Even just trying to play, you might find yourself entering a zone where you're killed in a couple seconds by a higher level enemy fleet and find it hard to leave.

Some of that is common in MMO's, but I thought it was worse in this one.

I thought they tried on some areas - like ground combat missions - but they didn't seem that fun, either. They did make an effort to make some 'alien' environments, and there's a lot to like in the art and graphics, but even the 'wow this looks great' flying in space gets old soon.

Some things were nice - the missions with the actual cast such as Takei and Nimoy were a highlight.

To your questions - my recollection is that 'physics' didn't seem that much in the design, and if I recall the view was mostly third person but not a problem. It's been years since I played it, so I might not remember all the views or they might have changed.

So, I'd say give it a try and I hope you are one of those who love the game, but I have to say I didn't like it the way I'd like to.

Thanks for the feedback. It's f2p so not much to lose I guess.
 

Markbnj

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No offense intended, but always heard STO sucked a bit.

Well the signup process was definitely low-rent. I added the game on Steam and it had no content at all. Tried to launch and repeatedly got a message about the executable being missing. Searched around and it seems like the new game owner might have withdrawn Steam support, but apparently Valve doesn't know it yet. Had to download the launcher from Arc's site and manually copy it into the Steam folder.

Edit: tried it tonight. It's pretty damn bad, lol. I'll pass.
 
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pathos

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This has been a recent 'troll' in Rift chat at least, people say 'WoW is the original MMO' because they think they're cute getting the responses correcting them.

Heh, that troll goes around pretty much any mmo chat at some point or other. And, it's plug in the blank.

"---" is the first and best mmo. Such an obvious troll. And yet, it sparks some really stupid debate

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gitano

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Not even close.

This has been a recent 'troll' in Rift chat at least, people say 'WoW is the original MMO' because they think they're cute getting the responses correcting them.

we have a bunch of those "everyday" on Neverwinter zone chats. I guess its the easy way to troll those game chats, and prolly happens on every MMO :)
 

flexy

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Extra Credits has an interesting video on quest design where they focus on one of The Secret World's quests to show how different and puzzling it is compared to your usual MMO quests.

TBH I am not the type of guy who plays a MMORPG and then enjoyed those quests...I used cheat sites for every single one of them. Some are just silly.

They require you to go online and do research, like for example the one where you have to learn on ancient Egypt history to solve a puzzle, stuff like that.

Some may enjoy those quests but for me they don't really go well with the flow of what you otherwise do in an MMORPG. Those relatively complex research quests are also one reason why TSW (despite that it is a really good game) flopped as far as I understand. But overall, minus performance issues etc...I still think it's a very interesting and cool MMORPG.

I myself like many others at some point got MMORPG burn-out, what I want right now and where I have hopes for is Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen...I can see any of them being absolutely amazing but that of course remains to be seen.
 

skipsneeky2

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Finally had the time to install Rift last night, my cousin decided to jump back into the game with me after not playing it for years too.He says its much like Runescape but i wouldn't know about that yet.

Coming from campy ole Wizard 101, Rift is a whole other ball park and while its fun to take out ashens and grind some xp the game will be a learning curve, its the type of game that will confuse me for a while but so far its very enjoyable.

Outside of gameplay,the graphics look pretty nice and all sliders are at 100% settings wise and run well on my gtx770 until i apply ssaa.....from what i have read in the forums its best to not even apply this with piss poor support for other modes of aa. Go from about 78 max framerate with a cpu bottleneck to about 55 or so being entirely gpu limited with ssaa enabled.
 

DarthPader

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I dont know, after not playing Rift for 1.5y and geting back... it was all not so familiar to me... a nooby fealing :p
 

The Sauce

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Just curious - not one mention of TES-Online. I know nothing about it, but is it that bad?
 

v8envy

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Heh, that troll goes around pretty much any mmo chat at some point or other. And, it's plug in the blank.

"---" is the first and best mmo. Such an obvious troll. And yet, it sparks some really stupid debate

EVERY
SINGLE
TIME

I actually have no idea what prompted me to put "the original" etc. Maybe I meant to say "first MMO gone from sub to f2p" but that would have been be Anarchy Online. I guess the best I can do is: "well known MMO-saved-from-death-by-going-f2p"