I think you'll be okay, worst-case scenario you have to use a proxy to make the TechNet site believe you are in the US but I really doubt they have an IP check to make sure you are in the US.
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I expect one should read Microsoft's own subscription terms and licensing FAQ for the authoritative word on these matters, but to sum up what I've read here and on other forums:
- the software licences are for evaluation only
- but they do not expire, in the sense of having to terminate the installation, or losing access to the usual patches and updates (ie the same sort one would expect having purchased a licence)
- you can also telephone Microsoft for human support, a couple of times I believe, after that it will cost beaucoup bucks
- after your subscription concludes, you will still be able to run (and I believe re-instal) the software you've already downloaded, but you won't be able to download new software or new product keys
- you will be posted a welcome kit including your subscriber ID, which you'll need to log on; ie purchase won't grant you immediate access
- there is no overt student verification process during the purchase, not even a requirement for an '.edu' address (which 'the Ultimate Steal' did require); whether something else goes on behind the scenes, I can't say
The only big omissions I can discern on the software list are home consumer operating systems (ie XP Home, Vista Home Premium, Windows Home Server) and developer environments (eg Visual Studio).
TechNet will generally provide you with product keys sufficient to activate up to 10 machines, but more can be requested. Here's an important bit: 'Although you must go through the activation process each time you reinstall on the same PC, your total number of activations will not be decremented.' By which they mean reinstallations and reactivations on the same PC don't detract from your ten total, I think... I'm not sure if you could instal and activate another machine after your subscription ends, even if you're still within your initial 10.
Licences are for one user (ie you can't legally share your TechNet software with friends and enemies).
And last but not least, a punter on another forum who telephoned MS learnt that the promotion 'might be good' until the end of June.
Edited: 'cause the forums don't take HTML, heh.
- the software licences are for evaluation only
- but they do not expire, in the sense of having to terminate the installation, or losing access to the usual patches and updates (ie the same sort one would expect having purchased a licence)
- you can also telephone Microsoft for human support, a couple of times I believe, after that it will cost beaucoup bucks
- after your subscription concludes, you will still be able to run (and I believe re-instal) the software you've already downloaded, but you won't be able to download new software or new product keys
- you will be posted a welcome kit including your subscriber ID, which you'll need to log on; ie purchase won't grant you immediate access
- there is no overt student verification process during the purchase, not even a requirement for an '.edu' address (which 'the Ultimate Steal' did require); whether something else goes on behind the scenes, I can't say
The only big omissions I can discern on the software list are home consumer operating systems (ie XP Home, Vista Home Premium, Windows Home Server) and developer environments (eg Visual Studio).
TechNet will generally provide you with product keys sufficient to activate up to 10 machines, but more can be requested. Here's an important bit: 'Although you must go through the activation process each time you reinstall on the same PC, your total number of activations will not be decremented.' By which they mean reinstallations and reactivations on the same PC don't detract from your ten total, I think... I'm not sure if you could instal and activate another machine after your subscription ends, even if you're still within your initial 10.
Licences are for one user (ie you can't legally share your TechNet software with friends and enemies).
And last but not least, a punter on another forum who telephoned MS learnt that the promotion 'might be good' until the end of June.
Edited: 'cause the forums don't take HTML, heh.
what do you mean by developer environments? does the software run different or just allow for easier adjustments to be made by the user? would you notice any difference from the consumer version you buy in the store is the question I'm asking basically?
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this was pulled from that web site. no one had to go through this whole process? The reason I am asking is because I am a business student and my school only allows for comp sci students to take advantage of MSDNAA, so I can't even get into that MSDNAA site.
"Ready to take advantage of the FULL power of TechNet?
Simply follow these steps to get started:
1) Log into your schools MSDNAA account. Look here to find your school.
2) Get your Unique TechNet offer code from your MSDNAA account
3) Head to the TechNet Market
4) Fill out the registration form and enter your Student Code to get the $99.00 price
5) Start taking advantage of the professional grade tools in TechNet"
this was pulled from that web site. no one had to go through this whole process? The reason I am asking is because I am a business student and my school only allows for comp sci students to take advantage of MSDNAA, so I can't even get into that MSDNAA site.
Meh, worst case I won't be too offended if they ask me to fax a copy of my student id or something.
Sounds like a good deal for sure. I'm just not sure I really need to spend the money since I've already gotten pretty much everything I'd need free/cheaply through my university (Vista Ultimate, Office 2007, Visual Studio 2008...). The only thing I can think of that would be nice to have a full license for is Windows Server 2008, and I'd be surprised if that didn't show up on MSDNAA in the near future.
The additional licenses would be nice to have though...
The additional licenses would be nice to have though...
Huh... I was just looking around at buying Office 2007 Student & Home Edition, because I have 2 machines for 2 boys (Home schoolers), so this beats the deal at ChiefValue......
Thanks.
Thanks.
woot! Glad I dropped by. I had been wanting to buy copies of both Vista and XP Tablet Edition, and this contains both at a fraction of the cost!
Thanks OP!
Thanks OP!
Anyone know if you load, for example, Vista, as a virtual machine, if it will be counted as only 1 install even though it is portable and can be used on multiple machines?
Joe
Joe
That depends a LOT on how you configure the VM and how the VM manager works.
For instance some VM software will basically pass the REAL details of things like your REAL BIOS version / maker / serial number / CPU serial number or whatever to the VM guest, so if the VM guest looks to see details about your motherboard / BIOS from such information it will "see" information that reflects the real host system you're running the VM on. That is probably enough for VISTA to think that you're running it on a different machine and possibly reactivate as if you've switched physical PCs. This even IF you've left the settings concerning virtual CPU type/number, virtual memory amount, virtual hard disc partitions / filesystems / volume IDs / volume serial numbers etc. alone and identical in the VM saved image.
Also I think sometimes the virtual NIC MAC address of the host may be involved in the VM visible settings depending on how you configure stuff.
On the other hand if the VM manager doesn't pass "real" details about your host system to the VM, all the VM will have to go by is the "virtual" system configuration of V-CPU, V-RAM, V-NIC, V-Discs, V-Filesystems, etc. So as long as you leave the saved state of virtual configurations of CPUs / RAM / NICs / BIOS / Discs / Filesystems alone the VM should be totally portable between hosts and Vista shouldn't want to reactivate when you switch hosts.
Microsoft Virtual PC / Virtual server == don't count on VM portability without activation headaches from what I've seen, though maybe there are workarounds if you verify the config files and settings don't seem to leak host information into the VM.
VMWARE = I don't know.
QEMU / KVM = you probably have some VM portability achievable from what I recall seeing, but I haven't tested it specifically.
Their whole "activation" cr*p is really ridiculous for their OSs in general. Even if you dual booted the same OS on different disc partitions of the same PC it'd possibly consider it different installations, certainly you'd have to "activate" both even though you're really just setting up customized boot settings or application settings or whatever. MSDN/Technet stuff claims not to use up different actvations if you reinstall on the "same" PC, but I tend to assume their criteria for determining what is the "same" PC is pretty broken and you could lose license activation counts pretty easily in cases where you wouldn't think you should/would. e.g. boot with a different NIC or disabled NIC and you're probably going to have it insisting your PC is "different" in many cases.
Just received my subsciption ID this morning from MS. :thumbsup:
Is Vista SP1 available to general public yet? It's available for Technet subscribers.
Is Vista SP1 available to general public yet? It's available for Technet subscribers.
I got my subscriber id this morning also.
My mistake. "Unless otherwise noted below, each product key will activate 10 PCs"
Great Deal! Thanks OP.
My mistake. "Unless otherwise noted below, each product key will activate 10 PCs"
Great Deal! Thanks OP.
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