Expired passport = no entry

[calbear2000]

A coworker of mine flew from the states into Malaysia for business with an expired passport (apparently, US customs didn't notice it was expired, and neither did he).

When he got to Malaysia, customs saw that his passport was expired and didn't let him enter the country. So he basically had to fly back to the states, get his passport renewed, and fly back to Malaysia to attend the rest of his business meetings.

Basically 4 overseas flights in 5 days, and an extra $3000 of company expense.

Are they normally that strict about passport expirations? My coworker thinks it happened to him because he's American.

 

[BullyCanadian]

Originally posted by: calbear2000
A coworker of mine flew from the states into Malaysia for business with an expired passport (apparently, US customs didn't notice it was expired, and neither did he).

When he got to Malaysia, customs saw that his passport was expired and didn't let him enter the country. So he basically had to fly back to the states, get his passport renewed, and fly back to Malaysia to attend the rest of his business meetings.

Basically 4 overseas flights in 5 days, and an extra $3000 of company expense.

Are they normally that strict about passport expirations? My coworker thinks it happened to him because he's American.

Generally Speaking, from what I have heard they are strict, something similar happened to my uncle when he went to Europe

 

[Mermaidman]

Seems logical. Expired=invalid. Was his company unhappy with his carelessness?

 

[TwiceOver]

Isn't this a good thing. Would you want people walking into our country? "Ohh it's just expired, that's OK here you go, have a good day".

 

[FoBoT]

duh, why would they have them expire if it didn't matter?

 

[calbear2000]

Originally posted by: BullyCanadian

Originally posted by: calbear2000
A coworker of mine flew from the states into Malaysia for business with an expired passport (apparently, US customs didn't notice it was expired, and neither did he).

When he got to Malaysia, customs saw that his passport was expired and didn't let him enter the country. So he basically had to fly back to the states, get his passport renewed, and fly back to Malaysia to attend the rest of his business meetings.

Basically 4 overseas flights in 5 days, and an extra $3000 of company expense.

Are they normally that strict about passport expirations? My coworker thinks it happened to him because he's American.

Generally Speaking, from what I have heard they are strict, something similar happened to my uncle when he went to Europe

My coworker travels abroad a lot, so it just expired (maybe 3 or 4 days). Seems pretty harsh. I wonder if we (the US) do the same thing to visitors from other countries. And do we do it selectively based on the country?

 

[kranky]

Man, if that happened where I work, the guy would have a serious black mark on his record.

 

[calbear2000]

Originally posted by: Mermaidman
Seems logical. Expired=invalid. Was his company unhappy with his carelessness?

My company's got really deep pockets, but I'm sure this wasn't appreciated!

 

[StageLeft]

It happened not because he's american, but because he's a moron. Now, is he a moron because he's american? I don't know, but only a buffoon tries to use an expired passport.

 

[calbear2000]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
It happened not because he's american, but because he's a moron. Now, is he a moron because he's american? I don't know, but only a buffoon tries to use an expired passport.

Buffoons also quickly edit what they originally wrote to conceal their poor reading comprehension skills

 

[BullyCanadian]

Originally posted by: calbear2000

Originally posted by: BullyCanadian

Originally posted by: calbear2000
A coworker of mine flew from the states into Malaysia for business with an expired passport (apparently, US customs didn't notice it was expired, and neither did he).

When he got to Malaysia, customs saw that his passport was expired and didn't let him enter the country. So he basically had to fly back to the states, get his passport renewed, and fly back to Malaysia to attend the rest of his business meetings.

Basically 4 overseas flights in 5 days, and an extra $3000 of company expense.

Are they normally that strict about passport expirations? My coworker thinks it happened to him because he's American.

Generally Speaking, from what I have heard they are strict, something similar happened to my uncle when he went to Europe

My coworker travels abroad a lot, so it just expired (maybe 3 or 4 days). Seems pretty harsh. I wonder if we (the US) do the same thing to visitors from other countries. And do we do it selectively based on the country?

Yes the Americans do it for sure, my Grandma (85 years old) wanted to go just cross the border into Buffalo, and her Passport was expired (shes an immigrant here and we tried to get it updated before but it was a LONG process) so we tried to take her into the states with her passport, the guy was really rude, his exact words
"If you do not leave our country within 5 minutes, she will be put into jail."
And he was watching his watch as we were leaving.

(Edit) She wanted to cross the boarder for 2 hours to visit her nephew before he left back home

 

[calbear2000]

Originally posted by: BullyCanadian

Originally posted by: calbear2000

Originally posted by: BullyCanadian

Originally posted by: calbear2000
A coworker of mine flew from the states into Malaysia for business with an expired passport (apparently, US customs didn't notice it was expired, and neither did he).

When he got to Malaysia, customs saw that his passport was expired and didn't let him enter the country. So he basically had to fly back to the states, get his passport renewed, and fly back to Malaysia to attend the rest of his business meetings.

Basically 4 overseas flights in 5 days, and an extra $3000 of company expense.

Are they normally that strict about passport expirations? My coworker thinks it happened to him because he's American.

Generally Speaking, from what I have heard they are strict, something similar happened to my uncle when he went to Europe

My coworker travels abroad a lot, so it just expired (maybe 3 or 4 days). Seems pretty harsh. I wonder if we (the US) do the same thing to visitors from other countries. And do we do it selectively based on the country?

Yes the Americans do it for sure, my Grandma (85 years old) wanted to go just cross the border into Buffalo, and her Passport was expired (shes an immigrant here and we tried to get it updated before but it was a LONG process) so we tried to take her into the states with her passport, the guy was really rude, his exact words
"If you do not leave our country within 5 minutes, she will be put into jail."
And he was watching his watch as we were leaving.

I guess what goes around comes around. Reminds me of the Brazilian government taking pictures and lengthy interviews of American visitors after we enacted the same policy.

But Malaysia is such an insignificant country politically and economically... this just surprised me. Its also a heavily Muslim country as well, which is why I posed my original question

 

[TechnoKid]

Both my parents worked for INS, and we (US) do the same thing to people who come into the states. We have immigration laws for a reason, as do the other countires. Expired passports are invalid, and invalid passports mean nothing except for identification purposes.

 

[BullyCanadian]

Originally posted by: calbear2000

Originally posted by: BullyCanadian

Originally posted by: calbear2000

Originally posted by: BullyCanadian

Originally posted by: calbear2000
A coworker of mine flew from the states into Malaysia for business with an expired passport (apparently, US customs didn't notice it was expired, and neither did he).

When he got to Malaysia, customs saw that his passport was expired and didn't let him enter the country. So he basically had to fly back to the states, get his passport renewed, and fly back to Malaysia to attend the rest of his business meetings.

Basically 4 overseas flights in 5 days, and an extra $3000 of company expense.

Are they normally that strict about passport expirations? My coworker thinks it happened to him because he's American.

Generally Speaking, from what I have heard they are strict, something similar happened to my uncle when he went to Europe

My coworker travels abroad a lot, so it just expired (maybe 3 or 4 days). Seems pretty harsh. I wonder if we (the US) do the same thing to visitors from other countries. And do we do it selectively based on the country?

Yes the Americans do it for sure, my Grandma (85 years old) wanted to go just cross the border into Buffalo, and her Passport was expired (shes an immigrant here and we tried to get it updated before but it was a LONG process) so we tried to take her into the states with her passport, the guy was really rude, his exact words
"If you do not leave our country within 5 minutes, she will be put into jail."
And he was watching his watch as we were leaving.

I guess what goes around comes around. Reminds me of the Brazilian government taking pictures and lengthy interviews of American visitors after we enacted the same policy.

But Malaysia is such an insignificant country politically and economically... this just surprised me. Its also a heavily Muslim country as well, which is why I posed my original question

you've got to realize even insignificant countries, muslim majority or not have to keep their countries safe from infiltration as well, no country (except maybe cuba, I had a high school teacher whos father takes her and all her relatives in canada to cuba every year, and one of her relatives from america joined one year and she said her relative asked Cuba not to mark their passport and they didnt. Dont know if its true but thats what I was told.) wants illegal aliens and the such (such as the problems with mexican you Americans have)

 

[calbear2000]

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you've got to realize even insignificant countries, muslim majority or not have to keep their countries safe from infiltration as well, no country (except maybe cuba, I had a high school teacher whos father takes her and all her relatives in canada to cuba every year, and one of her relatives from america joined one year and she said her relative asked Cuba not to mark their passport and they didnt. Dont know if its true but thats what I was told.) wants illegal aliens and the such (such as the problems with mexican you Americans have)

[/quote]

Exactly my point. I'm sure there are some small, poorer countries that are not that strict. I'm wondering if foreign countries have been more strict with American visitors in the past couple years (for various reasons).

 

[StageLeft]

But Malaysia is such an insignificant country politically and economically... this just surprised me. Its also a heavily Muslim country as well, which is why I posed my original question

But Malaysia is not insignificant to Malaysians. In fact, some of the sh*tier countries in the world have really harsh immigration laws. I think in some middle eastern ones you have to give up your passport when you enter, and you need a visa to LEAVE the sh*thole.

 

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by: calbear2000
But Malaysia is such an insignificant country politically and economically... this just surprised me. Its also a heavily Muslim country as well, which is why I posed my original question

islamic terrorists are active in malaysia