Experts Urge Routine HIV Tests for All

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If you need proof of the fact that it's not working, look at all the people who have slipped through the cracks ? 280,000," said A. David Paltiel of the Yale School of Medicine's division of health policy, lead author of the second study.

Nationwide, about 40,000 new HIV infections occur each year. An estimated 950,000 people are infected with the virus, but about 280,000 of them don't know it.

"The cost-benefit to individuals and society is worth" widespread screening, said Dr. Lawrence Deyton, chief of public health in the Department of Veterans Affairs (news - web sites), which provides medical care to about 5 million veterans.
 
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That idea could be interpreted as either a good idea, or a terrible intrusion into privacy and personal preference. I personally think it would be a good idea for many people.
 
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Lifer
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..the hiv/aids numbers are escalating at exponential rates..I suspect we will be hearing about possible quarantine upon the next numerical threshold. This is what we get for whistling past the graveyard..
 
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Considering there's no way I could have HIV, it immediately sounds ridiculous to me. But then, obviously many people have many ways of getting it without knowing and have, so it's probably a good idea.
 
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well if they were serious about getting rid of it they'd tatoo peeps with aids.. down there.
 
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Skyclad1uhm1

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But...Wasn't it a gay-only disease according to the relifreaks? A punishment from God? That means it won't get tested for extensively until Bush' daughters turn out to be HIV positive.
 
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If Bush's daughters got HIV from the fraternity bros, it'd be cured just as easy as a flu or cold, 'cause you know the government has the cure, they just don't want regular folks to have it.
 
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you know with things like HIV I honestly wonder how it spread so fast and easily from continent to continent.

I'll even take into account possible zoonosis.

Its interesting to ponder such things
 
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Skyclad1uhm1

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Originally posted by: herkulease
you know with things like HIV I honestly wonder how it spread so fast and easily from continent to continent.

I'll even take into account possible zoonosis.

Its interesting to ponder such things
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Sex tourism. Guys going to third world countries to screw young girls very cheap and without protection.
 
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Originally posted by: Baked
If Bush's daughters got HIV from the fraternity bros, it'd be cured just as easy as a flu or cold, 'cause you know the government has the cure, they just don't want regular folks to have it.
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:roll:

Like no important or influential people or their loved ones have died from AIDS, right?

Billions have died from viral infections. Many of them VIPs or the loved ones of VIPs.

To this day, we still have no real cure for viral diseases.

But, thanks to AIDS research, we now have drugs that can suppresses viral loads in not only AIDS, but other viral infections as well.

It really helps to know what you're talking about before you make wild accusations.
 
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I am so thankful I never want to have sex ever. I know thats not the only way but its the way that it happens for the most part. When people start crying because they have HIV I won't be the one feeling sorry for them because most of them did it to themselfs.
 
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Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: zakee00
Originally posted by: Baked
Everybody has A.I.D.S.!
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link?
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Actually, I think he stumbled onto something.

If everyone had this assumption, AIDS wouldn't spread anymore.

In fact, in the medical community, they assume ALL patients are infectious and use universal precautions. It dramatically reduced the unintentional spread of HIV from patient to patient and patient to medical worker.
 
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The way the US approached HIV politically is one of the most ignorant things we've ever done, we (the US) needs to be much moe agressive in testing, treating & identifying contacts of HIV + people, and forcing them to restrict their activities, people that are + & engaging in high risk behaviors are a menace to society.

I'd like to see a nationwide list like the porn industry has.
 
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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
The way the US approached HIV politically is one of the most ignorant things we've ever done, we (the US) needs to be much moe agressive in testing, treating & identifying contacts of HIV + people, and forcing them to restrict their activities, people that are + & engaging in high risk behaviors are a menace to society.

I'd like to see a nationwide list like the porn industry has.
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Restricting the rights of all HIV people because of the bad actions of a few is the worst thing you could do.

Sounds a lot like rounding up all the Asians during WWII because we feared a few spies could harm us.
 
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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
The way the US approached HIV politically is one of the most ignorant things we've ever done, we (the US) needs to be much moe agressive in testing, treating & identifying contacts of HIV + people, and forcing them to restrict their activities, people that are + & engaging in high risk behaviors are a menace to society.

I'd like to see a nationwide list like the porn industry has.
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Well sense we don't have this the way you stay safe is to not ever have sex. Very simple.

 
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aidanjm

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Baked
If Bush's daughters got HIV from the fraternity bros, it'd be cured just as easy as a flu or cold, 'cause you know the government has the cure, they just don't want regular folks to have it.
Click to expand...

:roll:

Like no important or influential people or their loved ones have died from AIDS, right?

Billions have died from viral infections. Many of them VIPs or the loved ones of VIPs.

To this day, we still have no real cure for viral diseases.

But, thanks to AIDS research, we now have drugs that can suppresses viral loads in not only AIDS, but other viral infections as well.

It really helps to know what you're talking about before you make wild accusations.
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The viral epidemic experts are really worried about is the next deadly influenza (flu) epidemic. Every so often, it seems the flu virus mutates in such a way that it becomes much more deadly. More people died in the flu epidemic of the 1920s than died in WWI. Scientists think if the flu virus combines with an avian flu virus, a "deadly" (or more deadly than usual) flu virus. Fortunately some of the breakthroughs in meds for HIV/ AIDS will also come in handy for a deadly form of flu.
 
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Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Baked
If Bush's daughters got HIV from the fraternity bros, it'd be cured just as easy as a flu or cold, 'cause you know the government has the cure, they just don't want regular folks to have it.
Click to expand...

:roll:

Like no important or influential people or their loved ones have died from AIDS, right?

Billions have died from viral infections. Many of them VIPs or the loved ones of VIPs.

To this day, we still have no real cure for viral diseases.

But, thanks to AIDS research, we now have drugs that can suppresses viral loads in not only AIDS, but other viral infections as well.

It really helps to know what you're talking about before you make wild accusations.
Click to expand...

The viral epidemic experts are really worried about is the next deadly influenza (flu) epidemic. Every so often, it seems the flu virus mutates in such a way that it becomes much more deadly. More people died in the flu epidemic of the 1920s than died in WWI. Scientists think if the flu virus combines with an avian flu virus, a "deadly" (or more deadly than usual) flu virus. Fortunately some of the breakthroughs in meds for HIV/ AIDS will also come in handy for a deadly form of flu.
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Yep, exactly. HIV/AIDS research goes far beyond just HIV and AIDS. It is, in effect, viral research. And more advances in viral research have been made in the name of HIV/AIDS research than all previous viral research.
 
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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
The way the US approached HIV politically is one of the most ignorant things we've ever done, we (the US) needs to be much moe agressive in testing, treating & identifying contacts of HIV + people, and forcing them to restrict their activities, people that are + & engaging in high risk behaviors are a menace to society.

I'd like to see a nationwide list like the porn industry has.
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Restricting the rights of all HIV people because of the bad actions of a few is the worst thing you could do.

Sounds a lot like rounding up all the Asians during WWII because we feared a few spies could harm us.
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I certainly don't think HIV + folks should be rounded up & placed in internment camps, but those that knowingly infect others should be.
 
Amused

Amused

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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
The way the US approached HIV politically is one of the most ignorant things we've ever done, we (the US) needs to be much moe agressive in testing, treating & identifying contacts of HIV + people, and forcing them to restrict their activities, people that are + & engaging in high risk behaviors are a menace to society.

I'd like to see a nationwide list like the porn industry has.
Click to expand...

Restricting the rights of all HIV people because of the bad actions of a few is the worst thing you could do.

Sounds a lot like rounding up all the Asians during WWII because we feared a few spies could harm us.
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I certainly don't think HIV + folks should be rounded up & placed in internment camps, but those that knowingly infect others should be.
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And they are. It is illegal to knowingly infect others.
 
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I just took an HIV test yesterday... Probably one of the most nerve wrecking things i've ever done. They have one that gives you your results in 20 minutes... if I had to wait a week i think I'd go crazy.

Then I came home and saw this article on the front page of Yahoo...
 
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