Experienced web designers...what are your rates?

new2AMD

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What do you guys quote for an hourly rate when someone needs some site design?
 

Injury

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Dependant on too many factors to answer.

Size of the company, number of pages to create, what type of work your'e doing (html, flash, php, asp?) and the requirements for this.

It's actually a bit better to charge a flat rate... that usually doesn't require you to document your time usage.
 

new2AMD

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Originally posted by: keeleysam
I usually quote for the whole package.

does that usually equate to an approximate per hour rate? Like once the project is done do you do updates? If so, how do you charge for those?
 

Lorn

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For design work I charge a flat rate. I'm a multitasker so it wouldn't really be honest to say that I spent X hours on this client, and Y hours on that client, when I'm really all over the place. Also, like Injury mentioned, this way I don't have to log my time; I have a deadline and that's it. It really depends, though... size of the project, exposure, mediums involved, etc.
 

rh71

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usual rates for freelancing:
$25-$35/hr for straight HTML
$45-$55/hr for dynamic websites (php/asp/cf/etc.) w/ databases
$55-$75/hr for Flash (and more for dynamic content integration)

A lot of people overcharge (more than the above), because they can - not everyone has skills above HTML.

I was once told by a consultant that he sees people charge $90/hr for mostly HTML with some dynamic stuff because they are in a big city (Chicago). Sometimes there's overhead to consider also. What I do know, is that even flash developers on sites like flashkit balk at rates higher than $75/hr. You'd have to be extremely skilled. That's why I think the aforementioned rates are what the going rates should be.
 

Lorn

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Originally posted by: rh71
A lot of people overcharge (more than the above), because they can - not everyone has skills above HTML.

By the looks of your site, neither do you.
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: Lorn
Originally posted by: rh71
A lot of people overcharge (more than the above), because they can - not everyone has skills above HTML.

By the looks of your site, neither do you.
I'm :confused: ... please explain, Mr.-I'm-better-than-you.

In case you're a little slow, I'm not one who overcharges anyway.
 

Injury

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Originally posted by: new2AMD
Originally posted by: keeleysam
I usually quote for the whole package.

does that usually equate to an approximate per hour rate? Like once the project is done do you do updates? If so, how do you charge for those?

You work out the rate for the project and worry about updates when it's complete.

The cost for updates depends on the frequency of the updates, the amount you have to update, whether you have to write the copy or if it is provided, and how fast the turnaround time has to be.

You can charge per hour if you REALLY want to, but you have to consider that the average web update only takes an hour or less, even if you have to update multiple pages. You can't cheat and say it took you a few hours. So it's actually better to say "I'll do the maintenance for $xxx per month"... once again, going for flat rates means you don't have to worry as much about documenting time and such. The factors I mentioned above are how you determine the actual amount.

If you have to do a daily update of 2 or 3 different pages, while it sounds like a lot, is really only a couple hours of work a week... on a busy month you might work 10 hours... figure this with the aspects mentioned in my last post (size of company) etc. and name a price.

That's the game... give the best price, get the job. Give a high price and you better hope you're worth it.
 

royaldank

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I quote by the whole job. I also don't normally take on sites that require additional work once completed. There are a few and I'll usually charge $25-$50/hr depending on the job, type of update, and what I think they can afford. If I'm doing a site that will have frequent updates, I'll just charge them more and make a backend for them to do their own updates.
 

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a buddy of mine who is a graphic designer got paid 2 grand to do 3 flash commercials about 45 sec each.
 
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Originally posted by: new2AMD
Originally posted by: keeleysam
I usually quote for the whole package.

does that usually equate to an approximate per hour rate?

No. Unless you're using Dreamweaver templates. :roll:

I quote for the package for a number of reasons but mainly because I spend a lot of time on the design part trying different things until I find the best outcome and I don't think it's fair to charge the client for my tinkering time.
 

new2AMD

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: new2AMD
Originally posted by: keeleysam
I usually quote for the whole package.

does that usually equate to an approximate per hour rate?

No. Unless you're using Dreamweaver templates. :roll:

I quote for the package for a number of reasons but mainly because I spend a lot of time on the design part trying different things until I find the best outcome and I don't think it's fair to charge the client for my tinkering time.

agreed. Thanks for all the replies. Im looking at this from both sides. Im trying to figure what to expect when I need to find someone to do things I cannot.
 

there's 3 things, and one needs to be flexible
-features
-quality of the finished project
-payment

with small clients, i generally give a quote for the whole project. If they demand that the quote is a 'locked price', then i tell them that the features and quality of the site may get whittled down as their payment to work ratio runs out. For time/money estimates, i calculate my work at $100/hour.

with large clients, its hourly...and the rate depends on the project, the company, and a few other things. Typical hourly rates are from $75 to $150.
 

notfred

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: new2AMD
Originally posted by: keeleysam
I usually quote for the whole package.

does that usually equate to an approximate per hour rate?

No. Unless you're using Dreamweaver templates. :roll:

I quote for the package for a number of reasons but mainly because I spend a lot of time on the design part trying different things until I find the best outcome and I don't think it's fair to charge the client for my tinkering time.

Hmm, personally I don't think it's fair to myself to work for free. If I'm spending my time working on someone else's project, they should be paying me.
 
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Originally posted by: dquan97
I charge by the package too...about $500 for a basic 3 page with HTML and Javascript.


Meh I charge much lower for HTML and graphics.

I charge a crapload more when they want interactivity like PHP and MySQL.