apoppin
Lifer
Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Originally posted by: apoppin
Why not? Isn't spontaneous generation just Occam's razor?
actually it is .. along with traditional creation explanations
... i did not want to state the obvious .. but thank-you
From the Wiki:
lex parsimoniae ("law of parsimony" or "law of succinctness"): "entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem", or "entities should not be multiplied beyond necessity".
This is often paraphrased as "All other things being equal, the simplest solution is the best." In other words, when multiple competing theories are equal in other respects, the principle recommends selecting the theory that introduces the fewest assumptions and postulates the fewest entities. It is in this sense that Occam's razor is usually understood.
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Of course this is "philosophy" and the "scientists" will give you this:
The aforementioned problem of underdetermination poses a serious obstacle to applications of the scientific method. Formulating theories and selecting the most promising ones is impossible without a way of choosing among an arbitrarily large number of theories, all of which fit with the evidence equally well. If any one principle could single-handedly reduce all these infinite possibilities to find the one best theory, at first glance one might deduce that the whole of scientific method simply follows from it, and thus that it alone would be sufficient to power the whole process of hypothesis formulation and rejection scientists undertake.
to translate [re: Our Beginning]:
No one really knows - to the point of being able to "prove" it to someone else who requires proof
what i am proposing - in theory is different from anything i have ever seen; anywhere:
- i propose to "prove" - to Creation-believers - that "God" does NOT exist .. and the result of this "experiment" may in fact prove that He Does - to atheists!
... i have the most Open mind here - i am willing to accept the results of my own unpredictable experiment result - you can only guess as "my experiment" has a 50-50 chance to go either way.
:Q
^^yes, this is "new" - a logical way to prove the "unprovable"
- and it is practical and not a paradox .. and it is all mine
[i have been working on it for awhile - it is a theory,also; but no one will like it "in practice"; i can guarantee]
Unless I'm missing what you're saying, which is entirely possible based on the way you've grammatically structured your posts, you want to know why science can't disprove god? God is a creation of faith. Faith, by definition, does not rely on facts. Science relies on facts. Therefore, the realm of science and the realm of faith are mutually exclusive.
The classic answer, of course, is that we also can't disprove that invisible, undetectable unicorns / elephants / mice / aliens / whatever are living amongst us.
Ah, but we don't need to *disprove anything* to non-believers
- For example, we would not need to disprove the "easter bunny's" existence - to NON-believers; only to children and simple-minded people who already believe in a bunny that lays chocolate eggs, right?
.. . . . following my logic?
- We would only need to prove to BELIEVERS that God does not exist; "we" know better, right?
We can take it from there - if you agree, so far
- i will give you my theorem of the "how" to do it
[in theory]
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I was never taught that abiogenesis was anything more than a hypothetical origin of life. Is this not the case elsewhere?
The reason "spontaneous generation of life" is more scientific than "god created" is because there is a hypothetical basis for spontaneous generation that is grounded in current scientific knowledge. We are a long way off from "proving" it, but it is definitely more scientific because it can be tested. "God" cannot be tested scientifically, because "God" is not part of the physical universe (by definition). Even religious people will generally agree that "God" is above the laws of phys
Nope, if you looks at current classroom textbooks, Spontaneous Generation is presented as "god" in Evolution. The alternate - "god created" is not considered in most public classroom,
There is "no more" scientific evidence for EITHER theory; it is not Scientific to propose something that cannot be demonstrated at all.
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You mistake his posts; he loves himself and his own butt about as well as i do; we just disagree about "god"Moonbeam, why are you always posting about self hate? Do you hate yourself?
in contrast to his personal "faith", i just believe His creator - his god - is insane .. absolute power corrupts absolutely
