Exiled Shiite Chief: Iraqis Should Rebel

[charrison]

Originally posted by: bolinger
BTW, I have no quarral with you etech. I just find the double-standard (whereby I'm a troll for making dissenting assumptions about the US, but you're in the right for making assumptions about Iraq's WMD) to be a little annoying. You can argue with me, that's what a forum is for. But calling people trolls because their viewpoint is the opposite of yours isn't your job.

opposite and factual are 2 different things.

 

[Format C:]

Originally posted by: bolinger

I will not let you change the subject until you admit that you don't know of any pipeline proposed or planned for Iraq.

Okay, I admit I don't know of pipeline proposed or planned for Iraq. That doesn't mean there is or isn't one, it just means that none have been disclosed yet.

So can we change the subject now? Do you believe there are WMD in Iraq? If yes, where is your proof (any article stating that WMD have been discovered and confirmed in Iraq will do). Try to stay away from sources that have the words "alleged", "possibility", and "supposed" in them, because they have an uncanny record of being disproved within 24 hours.

No proof? Just assumptions? Troll.

There is a vast difference between confidence in a belief based on substantiated facts in evidence and unadulterated wild-eyed intellectually vacuous maniacal ravings. Now, would you care to guess which category your commentary has been demonstrated to be in?

 

[bolinger]

There is a vast difference between confidence in a belief based on substantiated facts in evidence and unadulterated wild-eyed intellectually vacuous maniacal ravings. Now, would you care to guess which category your commentary has been demonstrated to be in?

And if you asked one of the millions of War Protestors in the US (let alone the world) who should be accused of "unadulterated wild-eyed intellectually vacuous maniacal ravings", they would have said the Bush administration. All that you've demonstrated is we have opposite viewpoints on the same issue.

The only fact between either of our viewpoints is that we're both supporting assumptions. Nobody can be right or wrong until A)WMD are found in Iraq or B)WMD are not found in Iraq. If you think your position is better than mine, good for you. If you think I care how you categorize my commentary, you're vastly mistaken.

 

[Format C:]

Originally posted by: bolinger

There is a vast difference between confidence in a belief based on substantiated facts in evidence and unadulterated wild-eyed intellectually vacuous maniacal ravings. Now, would you care to guess which category your commentary has been demonstrated to be in?

And if you asked one of the millions of War Protestors in the US (let alone the world) who should be accused of "unadulterated wild-eyed intellectually vacuous maniacal ravings", they would have said the Bush administration. All that you've demonstrated is we have opposite viewpoints on the same issue.

The only fact between either of our viewpoints is that we're both supporting assumptions. Nobody can be right or wrong until A)WMD are found in Iraq or B)WMD are not found in Iraq. If you think your position is better than mine, good for you. If you think I care how you categorize my commentary, you're vastly mistaken.

Quite the contrary. I'll give it to you once more since you apparently missed it... "confidence in a belief based on substantiated facts in evidence"... I know what the supporting facts for my belief are, as does anyone that has paid even scant attention to this entire ordeal, but tell me, are there any "facts", in evidence or otherwise, to substantiate your comments concerning a pipeline or are they merely, as stated, just unadulterated wild-eyed intellectually vacuous maniacal ravings? Here, I'll even help you out just a tad and give you a little hint as to the correct answer... "Okay, I admit I don't know of pipeline proposed or planned for Iraq".

 

[bolinger]

Originally posted by: Format C:

Originally posted by: bolinger

There is a vast difference between confidence in a belief based on substantiated facts in evidence and unadulterated wild-eyed intellectually vacuous maniacal ravings. Now, would you care to guess which category your commentary has been demonstrated to be in?

And if you asked one of the millions of War Protestors in the US (let alone the world) who should be accused of "unadulterated wild-eyed intellectually vacuous maniacal ravings", they would have said the Bush administration. All that you've demonstrated is we have opposite viewpoints on the same issue.

The only fact between either of our viewpoints is that we're both supporting assumptions. Nobody can be right or wrong until A)WMD are found in Iraq or B)WMD are not found in Iraq. If you think your position is better than mine, good for you. If you think I care how you categorize my commentary, you're vastly mistaken.

Quite the contrary. I'll give it to you once more since you apparently missed it... "confidence in a belief based on substantiated facts in evidence"... I know what the supporting facts for my belief are, as does anyone that has paid even scant attention to this entire ordeal, but tell me, are there any "facts", in evidence or otherwise, to substantiate your comments concerning a pipeline or are they merely, as stated, just unadulterated wild-eyed intellectually vacuous maniacal ravings? Here, I'll even help you out just a tad and give you a little hint as to the correct answer... "Okay, I admit I don't know of pipeline proposed or planned for Iraq".

Oh I'm already past the whole pipeline discussion buddy. I thought your comment was directed to my view that Iraq does not possess WMD. Of course, your "facts" on that issue are easily countered with mine, because the US govt. has not publically disclosed any information concerning their intelligence about Iraqi WMD. They just continue to spout that Iraq has them "somewhere". My side of the argument is proven with countless years of inspections procuring no WMD, comments by inspectors saying Iraqi cooperation was good (although they've contradicted themselves several times), and comments by US intelligence officials stating the threat of Iraqi WMD is very low.