executive experience? i'm running a big campaign

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: shrumpage

Mispronouncing Wassilla as Wassilly could have been accidental, but it does come off as immature particularly for a presidential candidate.

What does it say about about your accident, spelling the word, "experaince" in the title of your thread when the word, "experience" is the fourth word in the first line of the article you quoted? :roll:

Probably not much... which is about the same as the value of the irrelevant conclusions you draw from Obama's mispronunciation or about running a campaign staff that's 50 times larger than Palin's small state staff with a budget 36 times larger than the budget for Wassilla. :laugh:

 

[Farang]

Senators are replaced this way:

" When vacancies happen in the representation of any State in the Senate, the executive authority of each State shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: Provided That the legislature of any State may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct."

And apparently people don't care if they are on death's door because Thurmond was going into his 90s. And Byrd, that man is going to keel over any minute. But the President is replaced by one person, the VP, and knowing that person is Palin doesn't make me comfortable. Just as I wouldn't be if Byrd's Vice Senator was Daffy Duck.

 

[Napalm]

Originally posted by: loki8481
the little lady is so cute, thinking her resume matters. why isn't she baking pies?

Barack was vetted

by whom? a couple dozen move-on activists in the caucuses?

it seemed, in the primaries, like the more people got to know Obama the worst he did.

Um - by 18 million voters... which is about 90 times the total number of votes Palin has received throughout her whole career. Incidentally - I think its also more votes than McCain has received throughout his entire career...

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: jpeyton
And Barack was vetted and voted into his position, not chosen by McSame to be one heartbeat away from the Presidency. The people put Barack where he is today. The people are the ones running Palin through the ringer right now.

You're right, the party elite selected and are very comfortable with Obama.

:roll: Yeah, the 'party elite' made all those voters in the primary choose him over the rest of the field. It had nothing to do with a smart campaign.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Originally posted by: FuzzyBee

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Farang
And I don't completely discount the fact that, as a man running for an office whose power comes primarily from the bully pulpit, he has built one of the most effective and richest political machines in history.

You realize that prior to Obama Bush had built the most effective and richest political machine in history.

And we all see how well that turned out.

Yes, he got elected twice. :thumbsup:

Huh. Listening to the left, Bush was "appointed" by the Supreme Court. Please help remind them that he was, indeed, elected.

Popular Vote

Albert Gore ----- 50,999,897 -- (48.38%)
George W. Bush ----- 50,456,002 -- (47.87%)

Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
Considering that the average human life span has increased quite a bit over the history of the US, you can't take just the age of a candidate into question.

LOL - Just because you say it does not make it so. Age is an issue, as it should be.

I also think we should know the amount and what types of medication he is taking.

 

[RightIsWrong]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Doesn't Obama have a campaign manager??

From what I understand David Axelrod pretty much runs the campaign and shapes the message.

Think of it this way, if Bush had made this statement all the libs would be laughing while claiming that Rove actually runs the campaign. Axelrod is Obama's Karl Rove.

Doesn't the state of Alaska have a budget committee and state legislators to do all of the work on that front also?

Oh, and doesn't John McCain have a campaign manager also? What about Palin? Did she run without a campaign manager?

 

[hellokeith]

Originally posted by: Fern
this is priceless; Obama is having to defend/compare himself against the Repub VP?
..
When you're busy defending/comparing your *first string team* against the opponent's *second string team*,

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Oh wait, Obama does have 20 years experience listening to the anti-american racist-whacko Wright. That's experience voters can rely on, yes?

 

[RightIsWrong]

Originally posted by: hellokeith

Originally posted by: Fern
this is priceless; Obama is having to defend/compare himself against the Repub VP?
..
When you're busy defending/comparing your *first string team* against the opponent's *second string team*,

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Oh wait, Obama does have 20 years experience listening to the anti-american racist-whacko Wright. That's experience voters can rely on, yes?

And McCain has 5 years of being brainwashed into believing that the N.K. communist movement is the way that all countries should be run.

See how fun/easy it is to make stupid, blanket statements about another person's mindset based on absolutely nothing but an associate or group that they spent substantial time with?

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: FuzzyBee

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Farang
And I don't completely discount the fact that, as a man running for an office whose power comes primarily from the bully pulpit, he has built one of the most effective and richest political machines in history.

You realize that prior to Obama Bush had built the most effective and richest political machine in history.

And we all see how well that turned out.

Yes, he got elected twice. :thumbsup:

Huh. Listening to the left, Bush was "appointed" by the Supreme Court. Please help remind them that he was, indeed, elected.

Bush was not the choice of the voters.

There were a variety of things that prevented the voters' wishes from counting - some accidental, some deliberate.

You need the history lesson on the election? Among many other problems, the vote recount finally was done but did not count, paid for by a large group of media companies.

It showed that when you counted all votes where intent was clear, Gore won.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: hellokeith

Originally posted by: Fern
this is priceless; Obama is having to defend/compare himself against the Repub VP?
..
When you're busy defending/comparing your *first string team* against the opponent's *second string team*,

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Oh wait, Obama does have 20 years experience listening to the anti-american racist-whacko Wright. That's experience voters can rely on, yes?

You lie about as much as anyone here I see. Wright was opposed to a US policy, not to the US. Obama said he hadn't even heard the rare comments by Wright.

You completely mischaracterize Wright and what Obama heard from him, because you are not interested in anything but trying to get a political point, it appears.

 

[shrumpage]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: shrumpage

Mispronouncing Wassilla as Wassilly could have been accidental, but it does come off as immature particularly for a presidential candidate.

What does it say about about your accident, spelling the word, "experaince" in the title of your thread when the word, "experience" is the fourth word in the first line of the article you quoted? :roll:

Probably not much... which is about the same as the value of the irrelevant conclusions you draw from Obama's mispronunciation or about running a campaign staff that's 50 times larger than Palin's small state staff with a budget 36 times larger than the budget for Wassilla. :laugh:

I hit enter before i had finished the post and then forgot to spell check the subject line when going back for the edit. It wasn't meant as an insult toward anyone or any place, the same can't be said for a well spoken politician.

Wassilla was also two years ago, she's been managing a state for longer then Obama's been managing his campaign.

 

[Mean MrMustard]

Originally posted by: shrumpage
http://politicalticker.blogs.c...l-disaster-experience/

Barack Obama defended his experience in dealing with natural disasters, such as Hurricane Katrina, and took a swipe at newly minted GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.

In an interview on CNN's Anderson Cooper 360 Monday night, Obama was asked about whether his experience in the U.S. Senate dealing with weather-related situations compares to Palin?s executive experience running the state of Alaska and as the small town mayor of Wasilla, Alaska.

?My understanding is that Gov. Palin?s town, Wassilla, has I think 50 employees. We've got 2500 in this campaign. I think their budget is maybe 12 million dollars a year ? we have a budget of about three times that just for the month,? Obama responded.

Our ability to manage large systems and to execute I think has been made clear over the past couple of years and certainly in terms of the legislation I?ve passed in the past couple of years, post-Katrina.?

Mispronouncing Wassilla as Wassilly could have been accidental, but it does come off as immature particularly for a presidential candidate.

Highlighting your ability to manage your own campaign vs. your opponent's running mate ability to run a small town - just sounds very weak, especially when she is currently running a state.


edit: hit return early - adding comments

Mis-pronunciations? Do you seriously want to go down that path? OMFG...LOL!

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: hellokeith

Originally posted by: Fern
this is priceless; Obama is having to defend/compare himself against the Repub VP?
..
When you're busy defending/comparing your *first string team* against the opponent's *second string team*,

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Oh wait, Obama does have 20 years experience listening to the anti-american racist-whacko Wright. That's experience voters can rely on, yes?

And McCain has 5 years of being brainwashed into believing that the N.K. communist movement is the way that all countries should be run.

See how fun/easy it is to make stupid, blanket statements about another person's mindset based on absolutely nothing but an associate or group that they spent substantial time with?

That would only make sense if McCain was there by choice.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: hellokeith

Originally posted by: Fern
this is priceless; Obama is having to defend/compare himself against the Repub VP?
..
When you're busy defending/comparing your *first string team* against the opponent's *second string team*,

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Oh wait, Obama does have 20 years experience listening to the anti-american racist-whacko Wright. That's experience voters can rely on, yes?

You lie about as much as anyone here I see. Wright was opposed to a US policy, not to the US. Obama said he hadn't even heard the rare comments by Wright.

You completely mischaracterize Wright and what Obama heard from him, because you are not interested in anything but trying to get a political point, it appears.

You do a great job of spinning that whole fiasco.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: Farang
-snip-
I guess it is just a matter of opinion but I regard the Illinois state senate as a higher office than mayor of Wasilla

One of the MSM news had Obama's mentor on; he was in the IL senate and helped get Obama elected to the US Senate.

It was his opinion, as a state Senator, that city council people had more power & authority than an IL state Senator.

So, he obviously doesn't think much of it himslef as one of the most powerful state Senators.

Fern

 

[Dari]

By choosing Palin as his running mate, McCain is continuing the tradition set forth by Bush of denigrating the Presidency and Vice Presidency. On 60 Minutes last night, Obama was right when he said: Republicans are good at winning elections and terrible at governance.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: hellokeith

Originally posted by: Fern
this is priceless; Obama is having to defend/compare himself against the Repub VP?
..
When you're busy defending/comparing your *first string team* against the opponent's *second string team*,

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Oh wait, Obama does have 20 years experience listening to the anti-american racist-whacko Wright. That's experience voters can rely on, yes?

And McCain has 5 years of being brainwashed into believing that the N.K. communist movement is the way that all countries should be run.

See how fun/easy it is to make stupid, blanket statements about another person's mindset based on absolutely nothing but an associate or group that they spent substantial time with?

That would only make sense if McCain was there by choice.

He was in Vietnam by choice and he certainly knew the risks. IIRC, he reguested to go to Vietnam.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: hellokeith

Originally posted by: Fern
this is priceless; Obama is having to defend/compare himself against the Repub VP?
..
When you're busy defending/comparing your *first string team* against the opponent's *second string team*,

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Oh wait, Obama does have 20 years experience listening to the anti-american racist-whacko Wright. That's experience voters can rely on, yes?

And McCain has 5 years of being brainwashed into believing that the N.K. communist movement is the way that all countries should be run.

See how fun/easy it is to make stupid, blanket statements about another person's mindset based on absolutely nothing but an associate or group that they spent substantial time with?

That would only make sense if McCain was there by choice.

He was in Vietnam by choice and he certainly knew the risks. IIRC, he reguested to go to Vietnam.

I'm pretty sure that you know what I'm talking about.

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
And Barack was vetted and voted into his position, not chosen by McSame to be one heartbeat away from the Presidency. The people put Barack where he is today. The people are the ones running Palin through the ringer right now.

It's just too bad that you're trying to compare the experience of the VP pick for one party to that of the Presidential nominee for the other, shouldn't it be a comparison of like positions, or are you afraid of speaking the truth in that matter?

 

[JS80]

I can't believe we have a noob and an idiot running for president. Should have been Hillary vs Romney.

 

[OrByte]

"So, I think that our ability to manage large systems and to execute, I think, has been made clear over the last couple of years."

Take that comment into the context that Obama did manage and execute a come from behind lamblasting over Hillary and her campaign. The same Hillary that was being crowned the Presidency just several months ago. Everyone thought HRC was going to win, Obama managed to change that outcome.

As far as running a campaign, I think Obama can get away with gloating a little bit over that.

As far as experience goes...he shouldn't have answered the question. OR, he should have answered the question by saying that the Republicans must have forgotten that they elected McCain to run for the Presidency, just like he was elected to run for POTUS by the democratic party. If republicans dont want to discuss McCain (and who can blame them), and would rather discuss Palin, then maybe they elected the wrong person to run for President? Thats how I would have answered the question.

Obama needs to not compound these issues over experience with Palin...because it doesnt matter. In the end it is still Obama vs McCain. And when discussing experience, he should discuss the experience that Senator McCain brings to the table, compared to Candidate McCain...and all the differences in between. Then he needs to stick to his message about the changes he outlined in his acceptance speech. I fear the Palin extravaganza has made even Obama forget about the ideas he outlined in his acceptance speech.

Get back on message.

One last thing: Someone somewhere is going to have to define this "Executive Experience" term that has been created to bash Obama with. I am pretty sure that under the definition of "executive experience" not even McCain can lay claim to any such experience. On the same note, maybe all the mayors and governors of various municipalities across the country can now say that they have the experience required to run the country? Wow that would be interesting....

But I could be wrong...

 

[Moonbeam]

If McCain wins and dies he will have given us a know nothing dog catcher for our chief executive. Thanks for wanting to win more than you care about your nation, you asshole.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
If McCain wins and dies he will have given us a know nothing dog catcher for our chief executive. Thanks for wanting to win more than you care about your nation, you asshole.

if Obama wins and dies he will have given us the ultimate party insider status quo for our chief executive. Thanks for wanting to suck up to the democratic leadership more than you care about change, you asshole.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
If McCain wins and dies he will have given us a know nothing dog catcher for our chief executive. Thanks for wanting to win more than you care about your nation, you asshole.

If Obama wins and lives we will have a know nothing freshman ex-community organizer (aka legal gang member legally extorting the public) who dealt with food stamp and rent subsidy issues for our chief executive.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: hellokeith

Originally posted by: Fern
this is priceless; Obama is having to defend/compare himself against the Repub VP?
..
When you're busy defending/comparing your *first string team* against the opponent's *second string team*,

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Oh wait, Obama does have 20 years experience listening to the anti-american racist-whacko Wright. That's experience voters can rely on, yes?

And McCain has 5 years of being brainwashed into believing that the N.K. communist movement is the way that all countries should be run.

See how fun/easy it is to make stupid, blanket statements about another person's mindset based on absolutely nothing but an associate or group that they spent substantial time with?

That would only make sense if McCain was there by choice.

He was in Vietnam by choice and he certainly knew the risks. IIRC, he reguested to go to Vietnam.

I'm pretty sure that you know what I'm talking about.

I know exactly what you're talking about and my point is spot on. McCain wanted to fight. If you jump into a fight and was killed, was it by choice that you died? Of course because you knew the consequences.