executive experience? i'm running a big campaign

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JD50

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Originally posted by: hellokeith
Originally posted by: Fern
this is priceless; Obama is having to defend/compare himself against the Repub VP?
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When you're busy defending/comparing your *first string team* against the opponent's *second string team*,

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Oh wait, Obama does have 20 years experience listening to the anti-american racist-whacko Wright. That's experience voters can rely on, yes?

And McCain has 5 years of being brainwashed into believing that the N.K. communist movement is the way that all countries should be run.

See how fun/easy it is to make stupid, blanket statements about another person's mindset based on absolutely nothing but an associate or group that they spent substantial time with?

That would only make sense if McCain was there by choice.

He was in Vietnam by choice and he certainly knew the risks. IIRC, he reguested to go to Vietnam.

I'm pretty sure that you know what I'm talking about.

I know exactly what you're talking about and my point is spot on. McCain wanted to fight. If you jump into a fight and was killed, was it by choice that you died? Of course because you knew the consequences.

What does that have to do with what RightIsWrong said? He was saying that Obama belonging to a racist, hate filled church for 20 years is the same as McCain being held as a POW for 5 years and being subjected to communist propaganda. Any honest person can see that the obvious difference is that Obama could CHOOSE to leave the church, whereas McCain had no choice but to stay in a POW camp. Is this such a hard concept to grasp? I'll try and make it simpler.

Obama = Attended racist hate filled church for 20 years, having the option to leave at any time.

McCain = Stuck in a communist POW camp being bombarded with communist propaganda, did not have the option to leave.

Edit - And as to your last point, that is the most ridiculous thing that I've seen. Just because you sign up to go fight in a war does not mean that you made the choice to die. It means that you chose to take a risk, not that you actually chose to die, that's just silly.
 

FuzzyBee

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Farang
And I don't completely discount the fact that, as a man running for an office whose power comes primarily from the bully pulpit, he has built one of the most effective and richest political machines in history.
You realize that prior to Obama Bush had built the most effective and richest political machine in history.

And we all see how well that turned out.
Yes, he got elected twice. :thumbsup:

Huh. Listening to the left, Bush was "appointed" by the Supreme Court. Please help remind them that he was, indeed, elected.

Bush was not the choice of the voters.

There were a variety of things that prevented the voters' wishes from counting - some accidental, some deliberate.

You need the history lesson on the election? Among many other problems, the vote recount finally was done but did not count, paid for by a large group of media companies.

It showed that when you counted all votes where intent was clear, Gore won.

Only if you recount Florida vote by vote. How much did Gore win New Mexico by? He surely wasn't pushing for a recount there, was he?

Face it - your corner lost, and all you have to show for it is sour grapes.
 

Infohawk

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Regardless of whether Palin has experience or not (she doesn't) a lot of moderates are going to be turned off by her medieval beliefs.
 

Jhhnn

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Should be interesting to see what Palin's Assembly of God Pastor has had to say over the last 20 years, too... Of course, that won't really matter, because he's white...
 

Bitek

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Aug 2, 2001
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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: jpeyton
And Barack was vetted and voted into his position, not chosen by McSame to be one heartbeat away from the Presidency. The people put Barack where he is today. The people are the ones running Palin through the ringer right now.

You're right, the party elite selected and are very comfortable with Obama.

Ah, by that logic Bush selected McCain as he was comfortable with him continuing his administration.