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Execution of web programmer in Iran may be imminent.

Kadarin

Lifer
Story here: http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/18/world/meast/iran-programmer-execution/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

Saeed Malekpour wrote a program to upload photos to the Internet, an accomplishment that could cost him his life, Amnesty International reported Friday. Authorities in the Islamic Republic claimed his program was used by someone else to upload pornography and charged him with "insulting and desecrating Islam."

I'm wondering how long before The Green Bean or any other Islamic apologists come in and try to tell me that this has nothing to do with Islam. The referenced article details YET ANOTHER reason why Islamic culture is absolutely worthless, without value to humanity.
 
It's an outrage. It's not unrelated to the fundamentalist Islam in Iran.

You are the real scumbag here condemning Islam generally the way you did.
 
lol this place is comedy gold. Post story so you can give your opinion on Islam. First post comes out swinging and calls OP a scumbag. I need to come here more.
 
You are the real scumbag here condemning Islam generally the way you did.

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I'm wondering how long before The Green Bean or any other Islamic apologists come in and try to tell me that this has nothing to do with Islam.

First of all, they won't say it has nothing to do with it. They'll accept and embrace the idea that a nation's laws were broken and justice was served. That if you don't like Iran then don't go there, don't break its laws, don't piss off the wrong people.

Second, and the first point builds into this, you don't think North Korean dictators / party members freely kill the peasants beneath them, or Chinese? It happens in many despot nations across the planet. This is not unique to Iran or Islamic governments.

Abuse of human rights is a plight shared by all humans. It is our constant struggle to protect us from one another and to ensure that no government has the tyrannical power over life and death, over us and our property, as those nations do. This is the very soul of America, the small government values that we were founded with.

Protecting you from such atrosaties is the calling card of Libertarianism. The reason why central planning must be opposed at every turn lest we abolish the strength of our people and yield it to a ruling class. A government free to break laws, free to steal, rape, murder at their desire. Free to become the next Iran.

It is not about whether you have 1 tyrant or 500 tyrants, there must be protections in place to safeguard people. Thankfully in America, some of those are still in place and we can look down on other nations with stronger governments. That will not always be so. Look to those who seek to consolidate power and ask yourself the consequences.
 
First of all, they won't say it has nothing to do with it. They'll accept and embrace the idea that a nation's laws were broken and justice was served. That if you don't like Iran then don't go there, don't break its laws, don't piss off the wrong people.

Second, and the first point builds into this, you don't think North Korean dictators / party members freely kill the peasants beneath them, or Chinese? It happens in many despot nations across the planet. This is not unique to Iran or Islamic governments.

What is unique to Islam is the fact that "insulting Islam" is a capital crime. In this case, it's a capital crime for facilitating insult to Islam for merely writing a tool that could be used to do something offensive. In Pakistan, "blasphemy" will get you killed (even if you're merely advocating reforming blasphemy laws).

So you're right, dictators will freely kill those under them. Iran and Pakistan, however, are not dictatorships, and these executions are done in the name of Islam.

It doesn't matter whether or not this idiocy is in the Quran, it's how Islam is being practiced today.
 
News like this is an example of why the world need not fear a culture like Iran's. There is no way they will ever be within the same ballpark technologically or socially as a progressive society and thus the fruits of their labor will constantly fall short. This is salem witch trial level of justice, the country is literally hundreds of years behind the west.
 
News like this is an example of why the world need not fear a culture like Iran's. There is no way they will ever be within the same ballpark technologically or socially as a progressive society and thus the fruits of their labor will constantly fall short. This is salem witch trial level of justice, the country is literally hundreds of years behind the west.

That's overly broad. There are ways it's accurate, but for example if they wanted to make a nuclear missile and weren't prevent, they wouldn't be 'hundreds of years behind'.

Who cares about 'fearing a culture like Iran's'? There's plenty to be afraid of, insofar as it's an authoritarian fundamentalist regime - a bit like the ones far-right evalgelicals here want.

We don't want our country to be an authoritarian fundamentalist regime. But those issues are not the same as economic, military, etc.

Ya, their backwards regime does put limits on them as you mention, but it doesn't actually force their economy into 'hundreds of years ago'.

So what if it didn't and they were wealthier? Are we demanding other countries be poor?
 
Is he a murdering asshole doing it in the name of his religion?

No, in fact my Dad is generally a very nice, good human being. Which makes the American perception of Iranians always weird for me. In fact, my Dad is a Baha'i, not a Muslim. The Baha'i Faith is a new world religion that was started in Iran.

Btw, if you never visited America and only went by what you read in the news, you'd probably think every American was a gun-toting killer. Which is a cautionary tale to how the news can pervert your view of the world...

Just thought I would interject a little reason in here... Carry on ppl 😛
 
No, in fact my Dad is generally a very nice, good human being. Which makes the American perception of Iranians always weird for me. In fact, my Dad is a Baha'i, not a Muslim. The Baha'i Faith is a new world religion that was started in Iran.

Btw, if you never visited America and only went by what you read in the news, you'd probably think every American was a gun-toting killer. Which is a cautionary tale to how the news can pervert your view of the world...

Just thought I would interject a little reason in here... Carry on ppl 😛

As I suspected, carry on 🙂
 
First of all, they won't say it has nothing to do with it. They'll accept and embrace the idea that a nation's laws were broken and justice was served. That if you don't like Iran then don't go there, don't break its laws, don't piss off the wrong people. Second, and the first point builds into this, you don't think North Korean dictators / party members freely kill the peasants beneath them, or Chinese? It happens in many despot nations across the planet. This is not unique to Iran or Islamic governments. Abuse of human rights is a plight shared by all humans. It is our constant struggle to protect us from one another and to ensure that no government has the tyrannical power over life and death, over us and our property, as those nations do. This is the very soul of America, the small government values that we were founded with. Protecting you from such atrosaties is the calling card of Libertarianism. The reason why central planning must be opposed at every turn lest we abolish the strength of our people and yield it to a ruling class. A government free to break laws, free to steal, rape, murder at their desire. Free to become the next Iran. It is not about whether you have 1 tyrant or 500 tyrants, there must be protections in place to safeguard people. Thankfully in America, some of those are still in place and we can look down on other nations with stronger governments. That will not always be so. Look to those who seek to consolidate power and ask yourself the consequences.
Agreed 100%.
What is unique to Islam is the fact that "insulting Islam" is a capital crime. In this case, it's a capital crime for facilitating insult to Islam for merely writing a tool that could be used to do something offensive. In Pakistan, "blasphemy" will get you killed (even if you're merely advocating reforming blasphemy laws). So you're right, dictators will freely kill those under them. Iran and Pakistan, however, are not dictatorships, and these executions are done in the name of Islam. It doesn't matter whether or not this idiocy is in the Quran, it's how Islam is being practiced today.
It's not unique to Islam. The Church of Rome is a lot worse and it still is.
 
Who cares about 'fearing a culture like Iran's'? There's plenty to be afraid of, insofar as it's an authoritarian fundamentalist regime - a bit like the ones far-right evalgelicals here want.

Yet another point Craig can't prove but will divert and distract and point to something which isn't true.

Under the new rules will he be required to retract his statements if he can't find substantial evidence he's right or no?
 
what is it about us, Americans, that makes us so stubborn about staying away from shitty places around the world. Every couple of weeks there's always a story on the news about an American tourist got kidnapped here, executed there, etc. Just stay the fuck away from those shit holes. The world is a whole god damn big place. Find a more decent place to visit.
IMHO, if anyone brought it on himself/herself this way should not bitch about the shitty consequence they might end up in.
 
what is it about us, Americans, that makes us so stubborn about staying away from shitty places around the world. Every couple of weeks there's always a story on the news about an American tourist got kidnapped here, executed there, etc. Just stay the fuck away from those shit holes. The world is a whole god damn big place. Find a more decent place to visit.
IMHO, if anyone brought it on himself/herself this way should not bitch about the shitty consequence they might end up in.

The guy in the article is from Iran, visiting family in Iran. He was living in Canada.
 
what is it about us, Americans, that makes us so stubborn about staying away from shitty places around the world. Every couple of weeks there's always a story on the news about an American tourist got kidnapped here, executed there, etc. Just stay the fuck away from those shit holes. The world is a whole god damn big place. Find a more decent place to visit.
IMHO, if anyone brought it on himself/herself this way should not bitch about the shitty consequence they might end up in.

'Bitching about' an unjust execution is quite appropriate, anywhere in the world.

That's part of how you improve the situation, not leave barbarity in place.
 
'Bitching about' an unjust execution is quite appropriate, anywhere in the world.

That's part of how you improve the situation, not leave barbarity in place.

Bitch by all means. I know I am, but I know it's not going to help either. The solution is for the Iranian people to eventually tire of their leadership and move against them. They won't be able to do so openly as they have because the government will just shoot them again, but if they can organize an effective resistance that might wear down those at the top.
 
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