Exclusive: Gangs Spreading In The Military

[laFiera]

Aren't most police officers former military? So if these gang members come back to the usa to become police officers, then the country is in deep doodle; then again that might help explain the latest thuggish behavior of police officers...

The rise in gang activity coincides with the increase in recruits with records. Since 2003, 125,000 recruits with criminal histories have been granted what are known as "moral waivers" for felonies including robbery and assault.

 

[1EZduzit]

I Posted this in another thread, but it seems to fit here better:

3 Guardsmen Face Immigrant Smuggling Rap

A message later that day from Sgt. Julio Cesar Pacheco instructed Torres that a trip was a go, with a promised payment of $3,500 for the delivery of 24 illegal immigrants.
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Pacheco, in an interview a year ago with The Associated Press when he was first deployed to the border, said he was eager for the assignment in his hometown of Laredo.

"That's why we're here, to help them out," said Pacheco, who has served in Iraq and Europe. "I'm very lucky because they're (fellow soldiers in Europe) going back to Iraq and I get to serve here in my hometown."
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The trio are not the first Operation Jumpstart troops in Texas to be accused of illegal activity. In September, three other soldiers were arrested on charges that they opened fire in a neighborhood near Eagle Pass. According to local police, the soldiers claimed that boredom was at the heart of a joyride with two cases of beer and a loaded 9 mm pistol.

What the hell is wrong with this country these days??

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
What the hell is wrong with this country these days??

Lax standards and third world values. We?re importing it by the millions. American values are history, having committed suicide by surrendering sovereignty.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
having committed suicide by surrendering sovereignty.

shhhh....be careful, you're going to upset the "one-worlders", especially those who bash the US for not being more like Europe.

 

[LegendKiller]

You find this surprising? The current administration will trade anything to stay popular, stay in power, and gain profit. That includes hiring thugs and lowering the values of this country to accomplish their goals through any means.

Look at Blackwater, perhaps one of the most digusting examples of principle abuse in this country's history. Hiring thugs (Pinochet henchmen and others) to expand the role of "private contractors" to increase the size of the Iraq occupation at all costs. Naturally, the administration squelched any potential laws that would have held these people liable for their actions (including eliminating provisions for them to be covered under the code of military justice). This was all helped by good ole Neo/Theo-con Bremmer who granted thugs from Blackwater complete immunity in Iraq.

Yup, your war on fear has generated a thug private army tens of thousands strong only a few tens of miles from the Capitol. That army is headed by a uber-religious conservative who is best buddies with the most inside of insiders.

That's what you get for your 7 years of votes and rubber stamping support. The destruction of our military, ethics, and international goodwill.

 

[Lemon law]

The trend is clear---outsource American Imperialism to the private for profit sector---and then the private sector can use taxpayer funds to do its dirty work and reap 100% of the profits---while the taxpayer pays for 100% of the costs. Iraq costs the taxpayer 2 billion a week. But who gets the profits?

 

[CaptnKirk]

Lowering the recruting standards in order to maintain 'Enlistment Quotas' durring an unpopular war is starting to take it's toll.

Those who might have joined during less stressful times aren't doing so, and some judges are giving the gang members a 'clean-up' option -
We'll suspend charges and clear the record so as not to show your record if you join the Army or Marines, kill who we want you to kill, not who you want to.

 

[Fern]

This subject has been brought up before.

IIRC, one of the cable news channels (MSNBC or somebody) did a report on it. They had video of latino gang members using current military tactics in fighting with police. They also showed unit "group" photo's with soldiers posing and flashing gang signs (using their hands) etc. So, yeah we have gang members joining the military, learning combat/fighting techniques then in some cases rejoining their old gangs. Not good at all.

Fern

 

[BoomerD]

This isn't anything new. 10 years ago when my son was stationed at MCAS Tustin, the gangs nearly ran MCAS Tustin and MCAS El Toro...A couple of years ago, 2 local cops were shot (and one killed) by a gang member in the USMC who was home on leave. He blamed it on the stress of Iraq, even though he never saw a single day of combat during his tour.

 

[1prophet]

DONALD RUMSFELD: As you know, you go to war with the army you have, not the army you might want.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
The trend is clear---outsource American Imperialism to the private for profit sector---and then the private sector can use taxpayer funds to do its dirty work and reap 100% of the profits---while the taxpayer pays for 100% of the costs. Iraq costs the taxpayer 2 billion a week. But who gets the profits?

Everyone with any sense at all?

If you libtards would quit bitching about how evil all of these corporations are, and invest in them, you wouldn't complain about the war so much.

Everyone's making money in this war.

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Lemon law
The trend is clear---outsource American Imperialism to the private for profit sector---and then the private sector can use taxpayer funds to do its dirty work and reap 100% of the profits---while the taxpayer pays for 100% of the costs. Iraq costs the taxpayer 2 billion a week. But who gets the profits?

Everyone with any sense at all?

If you libtards would quit bitching about how evil all of these corporations are, and invest in them, you wouldn't complain about the war so much.

Everyone's making money in this war.

That's why Blackwater is private and the CEO is making millions? Yeah, we are all lib-tards. Funny, I work on wall street and love capitalism, but not on the back of every man woman and child in this country.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Lemon law
The trend is clear---outsource American Imperialism to the private for profit sector---and then the private sector can use taxpayer funds to do its dirty work and reap 100% of the profits---while the taxpayer pays for 100% of the costs. Iraq costs the taxpayer 2 billion a week. But who gets the profits?

Everyone with any sense at all?

If you libtards would quit bitching about how evil all of these corporations are, and invest in them, you wouldn't complain about the war so much.

Everyone's making money in this war.

That's why Blackwater is private and the CEO is making millions? Yeah, we are all lib-tards. Funny, I work on wall street and love capitalism, but not on the back of every man woman and child in this country.

It's not on everyone's backs. Plenty of people are doing better than they've ever done before.

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Lemon law
The trend is clear---outsource American Imperialism to the private for profit sector---and then the private sector can use taxpayer funds to do its dirty work and reap 100% of the profits---while the taxpayer pays for 100% of the costs. Iraq costs the taxpayer 2 billion a week. But who gets the profits?

Everyone with any sense at all?

If you libtards would quit bitching about how evil all of these corporations are, and invest in them, you wouldn't complain about the war so much.

Everyone's making money in this war.

That's why Blackwater is private and the CEO is making millions? Yeah, we are all lib-tards. Funny, I work on wall street and love capitalism, but not on the back of every man woman and child in this country.

It's not on everyone's backs. Plenty of people are doing better than they've ever done before.

Yeah, just wait another 6 months. Meanwhile, we'll keep paying an additional 120bn in annual debt service on that extra 3tr dollars needed to fuel this debt economy, stupid tax cuts, and the war on fear.

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Lemon law
The trend is clear---outsource American Imperialism to the private for profit sector---and then the private sector can use taxpayer funds to do its dirty work and reap 100% of the profits---while the taxpayer pays for 100% of the costs. Iraq costs the taxpayer 2 billion a week. But who gets the profits?

Everyone with any sense at all?

If you libtards would quit bitching about how evil all of these corporations are, and invest in them, you wouldn't complain about the war so much.

Everyone's making money in this war.

That's why Blackwater is private and the CEO is making millions? Yeah, we are all lib-tards. Funny, I work on wall street and love capitalism, but not on the back of every man woman and child in this country.

It's not on everyone's backs. Plenty of people are doing better than they've ever done before.

Enjoy your blood money...

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Lemon law
The trend is clear---outsource American Imperialism to the private for profit sector---and then the private sector can use taxpayer funds to do its dirty work and reap 100% of the profits---while the taxpayer pays for 100% of the costs. Iraq costs the taxpayer 2 billion a week. But who gets the profits?

Everyone with any sense at all?

If you libtards would quit bitching about how evil all of these corporations are, and invest in them, you wouldn't complain about the war so much.

Everyone's making money in this war.

Ah yes, what excellent financial advice...invest in a company being funded by your tax dollars. Sure, you might not lose as much, but you're not going to make any money that way either. The only people coming out ahead in the war profiteering department are the folks at the top. Although I think it's so cute that they've fooled you into believing otherwise

But speaking of war profiteering, I wonder if stock holders should be held personally liable for trying to "make money in this war"? Hell, it's still treason, even if the folks at Halliburton would like to pretend otherwise.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Lemon law
The trend is clear---outsource American Imperialism to the private for profit sector---and then the private sector can use taxpayer funds to do its dirty work and reap 100% of the profits---while the taxpayer pays for 100% of the costs. Iraq costs the taxpayer 2 billion a week. But who gets the profits?

Everyone with any sense at all?

If you libtards would quit bitching about how evil all of these corporations are, and invest in them, you wouldn't complain about the war so much.

Everyone's making money in this war.

That's why Blackwater is private and the CEO is making millions? Yeah, we are all lib-tards. Funny, I work on wall street and love capitalism, but not on the back of every man woman and child in this country.

It's not on everyone's backs. Plenty of people are doing better than they've ever done before.

Enjoy your blood money...

Do you really think I care? I would directly translate foreign peoples' lives into dollars if there was an exchange to do it.

Have fun up there. I enjoy the moral low ground.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Lemon law
The trend is clear---outsource American Imperialism to the private for profit sector---and then the private sector can use taxpayer funds to do its dirty work and reap 100% of the profits---while the taxpayer pays for 100% of the costs. Iraq costs the taxpayer 2 billion a week. But who gets the profits?

Everyone with any sense at all?

If you libtards would quit bitching about how evil all of these corporations are, and invest in them, you wouldn't complain about the war so much.

Everyone's making money in this war.

That's why Blackwater is private and the CEO is making millions? Yeah, we are all lib-tards. Funny, I work on wall street and love capitalism, but not on the back of every man woman and child in this country.

It's not on everyone's backs. Plenty of people are doing better than they've ever done before.

Enjoy your blood money...

Do you really think I care? I would directly translate foreign peoples' lives into dollars if there was an exchange to do it.

Have fun up there. I enjoy the moral low ground.

A wise man should have money in his head, but not in his heart.
Jonathan Swift

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: Nebor
Do you really think I care? I would directly translate foreign peoples' lives into dollars if there was an exchange to do it.

Have fun up there. I enjoy the moral low ground.

Dear God....you have one sick mindset.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: magomago

Originally posted by: Nebor
Do you really think I care? I would directly translate foreign peoples' lives into dollars if there was an exchange to do it.

Have fun up there. I enjoy the moral low ground.

Dear God....you have one sick mindset.

Individualism, self-righteousness, stubborness and a superiority complex. Oh, and a lack of religion. That's probably the main thing to blame.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: magomago

Originally posted by: Nebor
Do you really think I care? I would directly translate foreign peoples' lives into dollars if there was an exchange to do it.

Have fun up there. I enjoy the moral low ground.

Dear God....you have one sick mindset.

Individualism, self-righteousness, stubborness and a superiority complex. Oh, and a lack of religion. That's probably the main thing to blame.

You forgot to mention your lack of empathy for your fellow human beings.

So you must only come here to troll since you don't care about anybody except yourself? Or do you like hanging out where your not respected?

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
...some judges are giving the gang members a 'clean-up' option -
We'll suspend charges and clear the record so as not to show your record if you join the Army or Marines, kill who we want you to kill, not who you want to.

Wow, that's awful that our judges are doing that. Got a link to the full story?

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
...some judges are giving the gang members a 'clean-up' option -
We'll suspend charges and clear the record so as not to show your record if you join the Army or Marines, kill who we want you to kill, not who you want to.

Wow, that's awful that our judges are doing that. Got a link to the full story?

Dude...that used to be VERY common...You either get 2 years in the penitentary or 3 years in the USMC...take your pick...and the armed services went along with it, especially during times of war. Then, after Vietnam and the end of the draft, they tightened up enlistment requrements, and that option pretty much was done away with. Now, with recruiting being down, I'm not at all surprised to see this being reinstated.

 

[CaptnKirk]

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
...some judges are giving the gang members a 'clean-up' option -
We'll suspend charges and clear the record so as not to show your record if you join the Army or Marines, kill who we want you to kill, not who you want to.

Wow, that's awful that our judges are doing that. Got a link to the full story?

Dude...that used to be VERY common...You either get 2 years in the penitentary or 3 years in the USMC...take your pick...and the armed services went along with it, especially during times of war. Then, after Vietnam and the end of the draft, they tightened up enlistment requrements, and that option pretty much was done away with. Now, with recruiting being down, I'm not at all surprised to see this being reinstated.

Controversial Decisions

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Individualism, self-righteousness, stubborness and a superiority complex. Oh, and a lack of religion. That's probably the main thing to blame.

I really dislike phony-baloney internet "personas" like this, but I guess that's the downside of the anonymity the internet provides (and I suppose it's possible, albeit unlikely, that Nebor is as much of an asshole in real life - the arrogance of some young people nowadays is pretty stupefying). It's not interesting, it's not funny, it's not impressive; it's just embarrassing.