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Exclusive: ASUS P4G8X (Granite Bay) Review

Finally - so its true. More comprehensive benchmarks are still needed (so post as you see them), but it looks like Granite Bay with cheap 266 DDR memory is roughly equal to 1066 RDRAM
 
It still will be some time before this board is ready for production, and as it happens with most of the early chipsets, there will be some time before the board is perfected and works 100% stable.

--Andrey
 
Well I don't know about you guys but I remember quite alot of people thinking this chipset would provide 5-10% better performance over the 850E 😉 That didn't quite happen. In fact the 850E seems to edge out GB somewhat even though the scores are really too close to pick a winner. The real win though is that you can use cheap DDR266 modules with this one. I also hope that the boards will be priced competative against 850E boards.

Let's see what the other sites have to say about this chipset on Monday.
 
The differences in a PE/GE, 850E, and GB are so tiny, I just can't see spending extra for the Rambus or GB.
 
The differences in a PE/GE, 850E, and GB are so tiny, I just can't see spending extra for the Rambus or GB.

My thoughts as well.
 
Originally posted by: BDawg
The differences in a PE/GE, 850E, and GB are so tiny, I just can't see spending extra for the Rambus or GB.

Yes and it was using PC2100, I want to see this board running with PC2700 ram at 166mhz.

Maybe Thugsrook can find a hidden switch somewhere.😉
 

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Quote" It still will be some time before this board is ready for production, and as it happens with most of the early chipsets, there will be some time before the board is perfected and works 100% stable."????

You guys are crazy - that may be true about this specific board but this chipset has been in test for 6 months and you will be able to buy it next week in a Dell or HP on an Intel manufactured board. Its rock solid now.
 
Quote "The differences in a PE/GE, 850E, and GB are so tiny, I just can't see spending extra for the Rambus or GB. "

If your playing your computer games all day with 256 meg of RAM - don't bother to worry and just buy the fastest video card you can get. If your running a serious app needing 2-4 gig of memory - Granite Bay will save you $500 -1000 in memory cost.

 
Wow, I'm very surprised this guy broke NDA. No one is supposed to post a Granite Bay review until Monday.

How does this guy expect to get his motherboards on time and in good order in the future if he's just going to violate NDA?
 
Originally posted by: DynaOne....If your running a serious app needing 2-4 gig of memory - Granite Bay will save you $500 -1000 in memory cost.
2 - 4 Gigs of memory is one hell of a serious app!!! ...and here I thought that running my Photoshop with a Gig of memory was about as serious as it gets. 😉
 
Originally posted by: Evan Lieb
Wow, I'm very surprised this guy broke NDA. No one is supposed to post a Granite Bay review until Monday.

How does this guy expect to get his motherboards on time and in good order in the future if he's just going to violate NDA?
This isn't the first time OCworkbench has bent an NDA (a smidge) to get a scoop! Not to worry Evan, we all know that your review (hopefully appearing Monday) will be more thorough and meaningful. 😉
 
This is right in line with leaks that had pc2100 right at pc1066 levels...The fact it is done with modules that cost half as much and many of uis have long thrown out, plus the fact the cost will be probably less then rdram rimm4200 mobos and you have a great push for DDR...No longer do we need to run pc3500 levels in oc'd system to get pc1066 levels....

Wait until some reviews that will oc it to levels many of us have...IE like me an 171fsb and we can how much of a lead that gives us over what is regarded in the past as the best p4 platform....
 
Originally posted by: Evan Lieb
Wow, I'm very surprised this guy broke NDA. No one is supposed to post a Granite Bay review until Monday.

How does this guy expect to get his motherboards on time and in good order in the future if he's just going to violate NDA?

out of curiosity do NDA's in general end on a certain day or day and time? does this NDA end on Monday. or monday 7:00 AM GMT/EST?taiwan time?
 
Originally posted by: mcveigh
Originally posted by: Evan Lieb
Wow, I'm very surprised this guy broke NDA. No one is supposed to post a Granite Bay review until Monday.

How does this guy expect to get his motherboards on time and in good order in the future if he's just going to violate NDA?

out of curiosity do NDA's in general end on a certain day or day and time? does this NDA end on Monday. or monday 7:00 AM GMT/EST?taiwan time?

Because this is Intel's NDA, it ends on U.S. time (I believe EST, but I'm not sure exactly what time on Monday).
 
Senior Guy,
I run finite element analysis software (structural analysis), basically solved as a matrix solution of simultaneous equations. I have 1 gig on my current machine (dual processor PIII 800) and thought I would be set also - but with higher CPU speeds you can solve larger and larger problems in a reasonable time. A problem fitting within my 1 Gig memory will solve in 15 minutes. If your problem size exceeds the memory limit it starts swapping to disk (infinitely slower), so that a 1.5 gig problem will take over an hour to solve. Thus - you need as much memory as possible. My guess is that a 4 gig problem would solve on a p4 3.06 (with 4 gig memory) in about a half hour. That would be a big enough problem to solve a pretty massive structure. It would take 24 hours to solve the same problem in a p4 3.06 with 512K memory (my guess).
 
DynaOne,
Wow... you're solving stuff in a few hours? You must be doing mostly static systems--or relatively small dynamic ones. I'm working on my PhD in Engineering Mechanics (at VT, hence the name)... most of the dynamic (thermoviscoplastic) situations that I run take roughly 48 to 72 cpu-hours on an SGI Origin 2000 with 12 GB of RAM.

Back on topic.... Granite Bay will be nice. I have a P4 2.26 with 1.5 GB of PC1066.... and it still struggles with some of my hydrocodes. There are people out there that use this sort of thing. <grin> Actually, for FE (just for the few of you that are interested), the computational power is completely wasted without 1) memory bandwidth and 2) memory QUANTITY. In fact, my dual P3 1.13 offers faster solution times than the 2.26 P4 because of the 2.5 GB RAM advantage. So Granite Bay offers an interesting alternative for those doing compuational work on a budget--relatively cheap RAM and good bandwidth. Now if they'll just put six or eight slots on it...... <grin>

Also... one thing that is FREQUENTLY forgotten--consider the problem (whatever it may be) when evaluating what is BEST. Sometimes its pure processor speed, sometimes its memory bandwidth, sometimes it memory quantity... sometimes its completely unrelated (for example, a digital video system is always going to be poor without a fast hard drive....).
 
Hokie,
Well said. The problems I am working on are static but nonlinear (requiring iterative solutions). The problems I sized earlier (above) are only linear versions of the nonlinear problem - because there is no hope to solve the nonlinear problem even in days.
 
Hokie,
I could only have dreamed of having a machine like this when I was working on my Ph.D. I was in heaven when I could just load my full thesis as a full document at one time (using Wordperfect 5.1 on a 486-33 with 8 meg ram). Even at school - I ran my analysis' on a HP 735 Unix machine with 128 meg of ram and a 99mhz processor - and was sharing CPU cycles with at least 10 other students! The work you are doing today is beyond what NASA could do only 20 years ago with the most powerful computers available.
 
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