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I'm saying that fragmentation issues are real and undeniable.
You're misusing a word that didn't have much meaning in the first place.

If people are using wildly varying APIs and API levels and hardware with different DPIs, GPU drivers, etc. -- that's the sort of fragmentation people complain about. It makes it harder for devs to give us a good experience, though of course Google Services updates have gone a long way.

If I'm using Swype, Jorte, Root Explorer, Nova Prime, and Chrome on every device while you use Swiftkey, CalenGoo, ES File Explorer, Apex, and Firefox while some other guy uses stock, stock, stock, stock, and stock... that's Android. That's choice -- and *reduced* fragmentation, because I can implement the exact same experience that *I* like on every phone and/or tablet I ever own.
 
My issue with the "just replace it with a different one" is that these are huge companies (and ones that have experience with software) that seemingly can't even get some basic stuff right, so instead we have to rely on 3rd parties (and give them, in my opinion, an over the top amount of access to personal data that they often have no reason to have access to), doing research and sorting through a bunch of them to find which ones function like you want (no guarantee you'll find one even). Then, there's no guarantee that they won't update it and break it or make it worse for no reason (this happens a ridiculous amount, even with Google's own stuff). That's even ignoring the ads and dealing with what's worth paying for and what isn't. Its just such a hassle.

I'm not saying its a strictly Android issue (it certainly isn't), but its like the negatives are worse than I'm used to dealing with on say Windows where I can easily bypass the negatives and am not fighting basic functionality half the time. By the time I'll get things how I want, there'll be updates that will probably change half of the stuff so that I'll have to then go and do the process again.
 
I totally agree with darkswordsman17. It is incomprehensible to me that a gigantic OEM like Samsung produce what might be the most advanced hardware in an appealing package, only to ruin (or at least make unpleasant) user experience with half-assed software. Especially when the solution seemingly is doing less, not more.

P.S. Is there an app similar to S-Note in Play store? Or is there a place where I can download S-Note APK file? I would like a note app for my Nexus 5 that does:

- Voice recognition (converts voice to typefaces)
- Handwriting recognition (converts handwritten letters to typefaces)
- Widget
- Password-lock for select notes
- Local only (no internet connection required)
 
I totally agree with darkswordsman17. It is incomprehensible to me that a gigantic OEM like Samsung produce what might be the most advanced hardware in an appealing package, only to ruin (or at least make unpleasant) user experience with half-assed software. Especially when the solution seemingly is doing less, not more.

P.S. Is there an app similar to S-Note in Play store? Or is there a place where I can download S-Note APK file? I would like a note app for my Nexus 5 that does:

- Voice recognition (converts voice to typefaces)
- Handwriting recognition (converts handwritten letters to typefaces)
- Widget
- Password-lock for select notes
- Local only (no internet connection required)


Touchwiz is just a trojan horse for Tizen OS. I'm firmly convinced of that now. They're making it different on purpose, so that their large userbase gets used to it. They want it to have its own Samsung-y flavor to it, and make it a little different from stock Android.

At some point in the future once they get their ecosystem up and running, Samsung will experiment releasing a phone in the US/Europe with Tizen on it, probably in the low end to start. All the people weaned on Touchwiz will barely notice a difference. I mean, check out how a recent Tizen build looks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TUgZBwZybU#t=31

Familiar, eh?
 
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I really can't imagine Samsung making Tizen phones any time soon. Like, it's not gonna happen in the next 5 years.

I say Tizen exists for the most part to accommodate patents-related necessities. Just think of all the high-profile lawsuits between them and Apple, MS, etc,. They need actual products to defend patents. Or perhaps Samsung want to have options in case of unforeseen developments. (e.g. MS/Intel's comeback in mobile space, however unlikely)

I wouldn't rule out a possibility Samsung borrowing some stuff from Tizen in future products such as refrigerator, though.
 
Touchwiz is just a trojan horse for Tizen OS. I'm firmly convinced of that now. They're making it different on purpose, so that their large userbase gets used to it. They want it to have its own Samsung-y flavor to it, and make it a little different from stock Android.

At some point in the future once they get their ecosystem up and running, Samsung will experiment releasing a phone in the US/Europe with Tizen on it, probably in the low end to start. All the people weaned on Touchwiz will barely notice a difference. I mean, check out how a recent Tizen build looks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TUgZBwZybU#t=31

Familiar, eh?

I have to agree with this, Samsung is getting closer and closer to separating from Google.
 
My issue with the "just replace it with a different one" is that these are huge companies (and ones that have experience with software) that seemingly can't even get some basic stuff right, so instead we have to rely on 3rd parties
Eh. I see exactly why Samsung does things the way they do, and personally, I'm glad they do.

To me, this is like expecting Dell to make a full compliment of apps just because you buy Dell hardware. Why? I don't want Dell shovelware. The crap they (and just about any PC hardware maker) put on a computer only crap it up. So long as their hardware runs an OS with plenty of development done for it, I don't want crappy manufacturer shovelware, I want the apps that exist for the platform made by developers who care about their own individual software. It's why people use Windows.

To me, it's not a whole lot different with a phone with Android. I understand Samsung just makes a few crappy apps to satisfy the type of noob user who doesn't even know what the Play store is, and who will go "Why can't I message my friends?!!??! Why can't I view my files? Why can't I... whatever."

So Samsung half-heartedly included a bunch of shovelware for those types. They're not going to waste that many resources on them though- power users know freakin' better and the type of user they are made for (lowest common denom) doesn't know enough to know quality from crap anyway.

So fine, here's some crap for that crowd- probably the same type of person that uses "Dell Media viewer" or whatever, rather than decent third party software in Windows.

Anyone with half a tech-mind should know what the deal is with all the default crap. It's not made for you. Get rid of it, there's an entire store full of better stuff, it's NOT that hard to find better versions of things, plenty of decent apps are free or costs a buck or two (oh, the hardship!) so people that know better should avail themselves of it.

People also make a big issue out of apps needing permission on the device to function, as if all developers are just trying to put a trojan on your phone cause you're so interesting- not just to make the application work. There's a bit of paranoia going on there. Big deal, so Samsung should build-in all that same permission usage, probably on an even wider scale since their stock apps can't be uninstalled without root?

Anyway, to each their own. I'd think if people want the hardware manufacture to have that much input in both the hardware and software, why not stick with Apple?

IMO, Samsung and the others should do the opposite- ditch the whole lame idea of their own crapware, and make devices that just run pure Android. For the "Where my blah blah app!?" types that'd go into a tailspin if that was the case, maybe have a 'noob mode' for them that runs by default (that everyone else instantly turns off) that handholds them step by step how to go get an app for whatever it is they want to do.
 
No: It's not like that.

Sure, I can download better apps in Windows, but I would still complain if Windows shipped without a file browser (explorer.exe) or a text editor (notepad.exe) or a calculator (calc.exe) out of the box. :colbert: When the Google experience on Nexus devices forces me to go download an ad-riddled untrusted third-party software like ES File Explorer for basic functionality and no two devices can accomplish the same basic task the same way, I am not impressed. Even so, that's not what I was complaining about here.

A couple more nit-picks:
I can't dial a number from the dialer's call history without two taps. In Timescape's dialer on Sony-Ericsson devices, tapping the icon would call and tapping elsewhere in the line would pop up other options. For some reason, TouchWiz's dialer shows a pop-up version and a full page version of the same thing depending on where you tap it, which needlessly requires the extra tap to redial. At least I can arrange my list by last name now, which was an unforgivable oversight in Timescape and other dialers I've messed around with (I assume it was that way in AOSP for so many to have that stupid flaw).

I like that I can finally take screenshots of the notification area thanks to Screen Write, though I have been unable to take snapshots of crashes/errors that involve the pen/keyboard/handwriting recognition.

I'm surprised to find out that the voice dictation still won't capitalize the first word. I thought it was a glitch from using ICS Keyboard on Gingerbread for the last year and a half and now I see that the glitch is alive and well in JB. 🙁 I can't stand that the insertion point grab handle still doesn't ignore the last moment of movement when you let go. It also shouldn't jump to the end of the last line when you tap under the line you are working in (should jump to the horizontal position of the line above where you tapped if there was no line where you tapped-DUH!).

I still love my new phone.
 
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Microsoft makes Windows. Not Dell.

Google makes Android. Not Samsung.


You don't use Dell Explorer or some shovel-ware, you use Windows Explorer, made by Microsoft. (Ditto all your other examples.)


As said, to make these things comparable, Samsung (and other manufacturers) should just stop the pretense altogether that the OS on the phone is theirs (if they're sticking with Android) and just use stock Android, and stock Android apps. They could even include some quality third party apps, rather than this silly pretense anyone really needs their own half-assed versions.

Obvious exceptions would be things like the S-Pen drivers and software, but the rest of it- frankly I don't see why they even waste whatever amounts of money and effort on any of it. It's mostly junk.
 
Microsoft makes Windows. Not Dell.

Google makes Android. Not Samsung.
I made that distinction and was never complaining about Samsung alone:
More nitpicks:... ALSO, the stupid Chrome address bar needlessly comes back when the OSK is displayed for a unrelated text field, using up what little room you may have had to see it (probably a Chrome UI sin). *grrr*
...

I can complain about fragmentation on the platform as a whole causing issues. It wouldn't be an issue if AOSP included a file browser with the functionality and it wouldn't be overlooked and broken since ICS either.

I moved from Timescape Gingerbread to TouchWiz Jellybean and I'm disappointed that two years of refinements and both Samsung and Google have yet to iron out the basics.

You don't use Dell Explorer or some shovel-ware, you use Windows Explorer, made by Microsoft. (Ditto all your other examples.)
Exactly, which is why I complained that AOSP and even the Nexus experience doesn't provide those basics. I never even hinted that it was a Samsung issue, but if any customized version of Android is expected to have all that fixed, it's Samsung's.

As said, to make these things comparable, Samsung (and other manufacturers) should just stop the pretense altogether that the OS on the phone is theirs (if they're sticking with Android) and just use stock Android, and stock Android apps. They could even include some quality third party apps, rather than this silly pretense anyone really needs their own half-assed versions.
Which is exactly why Google needs to make the base experience comparable to other smart phones even without carrier customizations. Still not having a stock notes app is a pretty big oversight.

Obvious exceptions would be things like the S-Pen drivers and software, but the rest of it- frankly I don't see why they even waste whatever amounts of money and effort on any of it. It's mostly junk.
Agreed, but most of the free stuff out there is junk too. Even ignoring ads, ES File Explorer and File Manager have all kinds of UI issues. I'm extremely picky when if comes to UI in particular. 🙂
 
I'll just remind that this whole sidetrack started with responses to your quote:
Samsung still hasn't fixed My Files (no home screen folder shortcuts despite online documentation of the feature)

So again, it's kind of like complaining why hasn't Dell fixed some "Dell My Computer" shovelware rather than Microsoft for their OS.

Most of your beef sounds like it's with Google, not Samsung. As I said, the only reason they even bother with some My Files shovel-ware is due to the default noobs that would never figure out just to go to Play Store and download one.

There's plenty of good software for most tasks, and on Android far more is allowed in the first place than in iOS. (Yeah, good luck expecting a basic file explorer there.)

Sure, there are things to complain at Google about (I certainly can rant about Google's shortcomings and questionable 'upgrade' decisions) but it's also a combination of you being very nitpicky. (Which you do admit). I mean, something like X-Plore is a better file browser than I've seen even on desktop OS's.

X-plore-File-Manager-Android-App-500x261.jpg

Makes it a snap to copy any file to/from anywhere, including FTP, SMB shares, and a half dozen cloud services. Interface is near perfection, IMO.

And it's just one of a dozen choices. If none are good enough for whatever your needs are, then its highly probable Android isn't for you.

If you don't want ads for any apps you use, then pony up for the paid versions. It amuses me that people will spend hundreds on a device, then complain about having to pay a buck or three for an application. Desktop software that costs anywhere from $20-$1000 must drive such people crazy!
 
I just bought a Note 3 from someone on the HardForum, and I must say... This is truly the best phone I ever owned, and certainly the perfect phone for me, amidst everything available today. I had no idea I'd love it this much.

Just a few points...

1)It's BLACK. As in BLACK. Not "space gray", not "pebble blue", not some shade of blue or black, but simply.. BLACK. Finally.. I cant believe its not available on the AT&T GS4.

2)Te screen is finally... Just right. With all other phones, it was either too small, or big, but too elongated... or not sharp enough, or not feeling right color wise, or clarity wise... Even the GS4 was great, but not great enough. The Note 3 is actually good enough for me.

3)Battery... OMG... It lasts a whole day, into the next day overnight, into the morning, and mid-day... I never seen such battery life before. Mind you, I am not a "power user" when it comes to phones, but whatever..

4)The power.... The amount of RAM... Astonishing! It doesn't lag! It finally doesn't lag.. At all. and it doesn't need to be rooted unlike the GS4 to be lag free.

5)The huge screen makes everything so much better. and the phone is not too big or bulky at all. It is just right.


Only problem is a very quiet earpiece, crappy speakerphone and crappy indoor shot quality... But all Sammy phones have that issue.
 
I just bought a Note 3 from someone on the HardForum, and I must say... This is truly the best phone I ever owned, and certainly the perfect phone for me, amidst everything available today. I had no idea I'd love it this much.

Just a few points...

1)It's BLACK. As in BLACK. Not "space gray", not "pebble blue", not some shade of blue or black, but simply.. BLACK. Finally.. I cant believe its not available on the AT&T GS4.

2)Te screen is finally... Just right. With all other phones, it was either too small, or big, but too elongated... or not sharp enough, or not feeling right color wise, or clarity wise... Even the GS4 was great, but not great enough. The Note 3 is actually good enough for me.

3)Battery... OMG... It lasts a whole day, into the next day overnight, into the morning, and mid-day... I never seen such battery life before. Mind you, I am not a "power user" when it comes to phones, but whatever..

4)The power.... The amount of RAM... Astonishing! It doesn't lag! It finally doesn't lag.. At all. and it doesn't need to be rooted unlike the GS4 to be lag free.

5)The huge screen makes everything so much better. and the phone is not too big or bulky at all. It is just right.


Only problem is a very quiet earpiece, crappy speakerphone and crappy indoor shot quality... But all Sammy phones have that issue.

Glad to hear of another happy Note user. I've loved all my Notes and wouldn't switch to any other phone on the market today.

However, my satisfaction would have been considerably lower if I wasn't able to change the dpi. Samsung makes it way to high on the Note 3 (480) which lets you fit about as much on the screen as an S4, just everything is bigger.

Being able to root without tripping any flags, setting dpi to 360, and using a xposed framework module to set certain apps back to 480 or other values has made it perfect for me. I use Nova and have disabled/frozen a bunch of bloat, but those aren't that important. Being able to take advantage of the big screen is.
 
Another nit-pick: Chrome often shows a black screen when I leave and return which doesn't refresh until I touch/scroll.
The stock keyboard doesn't seem to think hyphens exist without spaces before and after. Almost anything with a hyphen gets auto-"corrected" with spaces and it doesn't undo even when you immediately backspace. I find that it is often replacing things as I type even without having spaced to finish typing my word, which is almost always wrong. It also frequently duplicates words for no reason. As far as the "download another keyboard!" argument goes: It's special with S-Pen functions that I would be giving up. The S-Pen is the defining feature of the phone. Is it too much to have some expectations and criticisms of it?

I'll just remind that this whole sidetrack started with responses to your quote:
Samsung still hasn't fixed My Files (no home screen folder shortcuts despite online documentation of the feature).
Right. I nitpicked Samsung for not making a work-around like every other file manager app did and I went on to explain that it was first broken by changes to ICS vs. Gingerbread.

So again, it's kind of like complaining why hasn't Dell fixed some "Dell My Computer" shovelware rather than Microsoft for their OS.
Except that Android does not include a functional file manager like Microsoft does and specifically relies on their partners and app store apps. If NONE of them can get it right, we have a problem. If their biggest partner can't get it right, we have a nit-pick, which is exactly what I called it.

Most of your beef sounds like it's with Google, not Samsung. As I said, the only reason they even bother with some My Files shovel-ware is due to the default noobs that would never figure out just to go to Play Store and download one.
Most of my beef is with Google but I only started with my Samsung nit-pick (on-topic) and that was kinda dragged out of me.

There's plenty of good software for most tasks, and on Android far more is allowed in the first place than in iOS. (Yeah, good luck expecting a basic file explorer there.)
Agreed. FWIW, I am even more critical of iOS UI and functionality sins.

Sure, there are things to complain at Google about (I certainly can rant about Google's shortcomings and questionable 'upgrade' decisions) but it's also a combination of you being very nitpicky. (Which you do admit). I mean, something like X-Plore is a better file browser than I've seen even on desktop OS's.

X-plore-File-Manager-Android-App-500x261.jpg

Makes it a snap to copy any file to/from anywhere, including FTP, SMB shares, and a half dozen cloud services. Interface is near perfection, IMO.

And it's just one of a dozen choices. If none are good enough for whatever your needs are, then its highly probable Android isn't for you.
I tried it. I like the two-pane Windows 3.1 File Manager style but I ran into frustrating limitations almost right away. At my suggestion, a coworker downloaded an iOS app that played sound rips from Super Nintendo games (SNES SPC files). He was playing them within minutes of downloading the app because it linked him straight to the sites that had the SPC files and supported the archives they were downloaded in. Three applications and two plugins later and I finally have some players capable of playing SPC files on my Note 3 and I manually browse to the same website and download the music from 100+ games, each in their own *.7z and *.rar files. Neither application supported playing them from inside the archives and the file sizes are negligible anyway, so I had to extract them.

Luckily, X-plore supports Rar and 7-zip formats... but functionally treats them like a folder! There was no way to extract them all to their own folders and the file contents were not named in a way that would work well if they were all dumped into one directory. Neither File Manager nor ES File Explorer nor My Files could do this simple operation that any desktop archive application could easily do, which is forgivable (it's not like Windows Explorer supports 7z). It seemed that, like a typical desktop OS, I needed a dedicated app for managing archives and not a limited file manager. I hit up the Play store for an archiving application that could do the same on Android. Should be simple, right?

First, it seems a little weird that even though 7-zip is open source and the format is widely supported there is no Android port. Hmm. I see people have compiled the command line version so it shouldn't be much harder than whipping up a good GUI (HA!), right?

So, I do some searches and it seems like B1 Archive is the highest-rated most downloaded archive management apps. I grab it and quickly find that it can, indeed, extract to a new folder automatically created with the archive name. Good. I also find that it supports multi-select for managing multiple files at the same time. Also: Good. I the try to multi-select and extract the archives and all I have are the same file management options a typical file manager has (Cut, Copy, Delete, Move, Zip, etc). BAD! It shaved tens of thousands of taps and clicks but it was still a tedious process to do for over 100 archives. All I have to do in Windows is select all and then extract with the Explorer extension to do the same things in as little as one keystroke and one click.

Sure, this is just one frustrating example that another app may do right, but do I really have to expose myself to more random software from more random people for such a simple operation?! If there were an AOSP base file manager in the first place with extensible functionality like Explorer extensions, we wouldn't have everything-and-the-kitchen-sink file manager over-reaching with half-assed 7-Zip support lacking basic functionality. Even as a power user by most standards, what took moments for my coworker on his phone turned into an all-day project for me due in no small part to half-assed file managers (would have appreciated in-app download/archive support with no need for file managers but I certainly didn't expect or need it).

If you don't want ads for any apps you use, then pony up for the paid versions. It amuses me that people will spend hundreds on a device, then complain about having to pay a buck or three for an application. Desktop software that costs anywhere from $20-$1000 must drive such people crazy!
I'm documenting and informing others who may be undecided about dropping hundreds on it. I find it frustrating that minutia like this is often completely ignored in discussions and reviews.
 
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CZroe: Have you tried ZArchiver? It looks like it can do what you want. I've been using it as my go-to archiver.

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Does the Note 3 come in a 64 GB base model? I am looking at maybe getting one and would prefer a 64 that I could add another 64.

I have AT&T and they only carry a 32.
 
I need to keep my phone on airplane mode at work and just use WiFi so I enable/disable it daily. I have to dismiss a "This is what Airplane Mode does:..." kind of dialog multiple times a day (no option to not display again). If you miss and accidentally tap the options above or below Airplane Mode (either Shutdown or Restart) it will immediately shut down the phone without a prompt or dialog.

Hmm... which has more potential for disruption and accidental loss of data/work? Which one is more justified for having a nagging "Are you sure" dialog that you have not option to disable? That sure is one genius UI designer you've got there, Samsung. 🙄

Of course, I'm just going to use the Notification Menu shortcut from now on but I still need to break myself of the long-press power button habit (not an option on my last phone).

FWIW, my Sony Ericsson had "This will shut down your phone. OK/Cancel" prompts that I wish I could disable and no prompt for airplane mode (opposite arrangement, though more logical).

CZroe: Have you tried ZArchiver? It looks like it can do what you want. I've been using it as my go-to archiver.

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Unbelievably bad. Where do I start?

OK, first I needed to select every one of a hundred files and it had multi-select with select-all functions. "Perfect!," right? Nope! The option to "Extract" suddenly grays out when you select all the archives with "Select All."

After confirming that it still offered the "Extract" options with a few manually-selected 7z archives, I tried selecting all and then deselecting the few odd-ball archives I had in the list (1 zip and 2 rar files), but the "Extract" option was still gone.

Clearly, it supported extracting from multiple selected archives so I assumed it was a limit on how many files you could select and began manually selecting them to see when it would suddenly disappear. I intended to check after every 10-15 selections but the UI would randomly pop up a dialog and start extracting while I was still tapping my way through the list. I was using the S-Pen and was very accurate so I did not double-tap a selection or anything. I never got to see what the dialog said because each time it would pop up just as I was tapping to make the next file selection and it would pick a dialog option instead. This proved to be unbelievably disruptive because it extracted them all to the current directory and I would gets hundreds of prompts to replace the info.txt and readme.txt files. There was a "do this for all" checkbox that simply didn't work. Clearly, it was only intended to do it for all files in the current archive and the functionality does not apply to a dialog extracting hundreds of archives. If I tapped "Skip" fast enough I could actually reach and activate the cancel button but it would generate a confirmation dialog that the next file replace dialog would pop over it and dismiss (back to square one).

Now, I didn't want all of them extracted to the same directory in the first place so I had a lot of cleanup to do each time this glitch happened. Eventually, by pacing myself to go extremely slow through the list, I managed to select everything and see that Extract was still available when the files were manually selected as opposed to using Select All. What kind of stupid glitch is that?!

To top it all off, it has the ability to extract individual files to their own individual directories that are automatically named after the archive name but not multiples, so it doesn't have the basic function I need that would take 2 seconds in Windows. Weeks later, I still don't have all my files extracted because I'm too stubborn to just mount the SD card on my PC and do it there.

Does the Note 3 come in a 64 GB base model? I am looking at maybe getting one and would prefer a 64 that I could add another 64.

I have AT&T and they only carry a 32.

It's supposedly available in 64GB flavor but I haven't seen it. 🙁 Probably have to order online.
 
I got my Samsung official wireless charging back cover battery door the other day and finally got my Tylt Vu chargers today.

As you may know, it's a little thicker than the original battery door, so I've switched to my Bear Motion bumper case (too thick for the form-fitting cases). People made it out to be barely any thicker but I'd say that it's thicker than I was led to believe. The camera no longer protrudes and is actually retracted into the cover slightly. I still think it's worth it for having NFC and wireless charging with no lump under the original battery door (some of the inserts interfere with NFC). The Galaxy Note 3 and carrier logos are replaced with a "SAMSUNG" logo. I'd prefer nothing and if I had to have one I would have preferred the Note 3 logo, but it's still less busy than the original cover. It's harder to take on and off because it is a lot more rigid. If you start attaching at the top you may find that it will not snap at the bottom, so start at the bottom.

I had 99% battery when I opened the Tylt Vu charger this morning so I can't do any real testing yet but I did charge it to 100% and didn't see a problem. The phone recognizes that it is on a wireless charger and notifies you that it may interfere with the S-Pen function. The magnetic coils probably have a similar effect to the one my magnetic car dock has (S-Pen doesn't function over the magnet).

Speaking of magnetic car docks, I got the Mountek nGroove Snap magnetic car dock. It works great with the original battery door or Spigen SGP Slim Armor case as the little metal plate can hide in either with no lump. I don't know how it might affect NFC because I have nothing to test, but I expect the plate to cause some issues there.

I have the weirdest problem last night. It required me to force my phone off even though I could still launch apps and it was responding just fine.

Because the setting may be relevant: I was on speakerphone with extra volume enabled as I drove home with it on the magnetic car dock without the metal plate that they expect me to attach. Yes, the wireless charge cover has enough metal to stick well enough without the plate to drive. That's good because it no longer fits a case (hides the plate). The magnetic mount may have triggered the following problem but it's still a Touch Wiz or other software glitch (should not behave this way; especially when it's intended to be used around chargers that have magnets).

Anyway, I got home and realized that I could not press the home button to leave the call screen. I could hold the home button to switch to recent apps or launch Google Now, S-Voice, My Magazines, etc, so the button itself functioned fine and it seemed that the Touch Wiz home screen launcher that was the problem. I could also use notifications and jump to different apps that way. Once my brother finally disconnected the call from his end I still had a strange phone icon in my status bar though nothing related to the call was in my notification menu.

Out of curiosity, I tried to close any application that could be causing it before resorting to a reboot. First I used the recent apps menu's "close all apps" function and it took me to my app drawer, so the Touch Wiz launcher was still working in some way even though I still couldn't get to the home screen. Once I was done with that I closed everything running in the Task Manager and there was no improvement.

I lost interest in restoring it without a reboot and finally tried to shut down or restart and that's when I discovered that the power button menu would not come up even though the phone was responsive and not locked up! Pressing the power/lock button would simply toggle my screen on/off and holding it would not do anything unless you held it long enough to force the phone off.

Weird.

If I press restart or power off, it gives me a confirmation dialog box.

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http://i.imgur.com/9ND1hOf.png

Interesting. No checkbox to disable future prompts either. I assume you are using the AT&T version? I am using the T-Mobile version on AT&T. I wonder if it's something I can change with Xposed Framework once I root it.
 
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Hmm... kinda sorta did it again.

In case it is relevant to the wireless charging back cover battery door: I was at work and I put it on the Tylt wireless charger as soon as I got in.

On a break, I took it off the charger and tried to update a few apps on the public WiFi available here. The first one started downloading but failed to finish. This didn't surprise me as I was expecting my sign in from the previous 24-hours to expire any second (took break at similar time previous day), but I loaded a test page and the connection was still working without taking me to a login gate. After the successful test I hit "update all" and suddenly they all gave me some 900-something "installation error" (think it was 901). This time my login really had expired.

After logging in again in Chrome, I realized that, once again, I could not go back to the home screen using the home button. I could, however, get there using the back button, so now it seems that the Touch Wiz launcher is even more functional during this glitch than I initially thought. Similar to before, I could not bring up the Device Options menu for shutdown/reboot. If this is caused by a process that gets confused by a sensor in the wireless charge battery door it should not disable the very tools you'd need to fix it (Shutdown/Restart for a safe reinitialization).

Happening twice after 24 hours after not happening for almost a month makes me almost sure it's related to the new charge door unless some update is responsible.
 
can't dial a number from the dialer's call history without two taps. In Timescape's dialer on Sony-Ericsson devices, tapping the icon would call and tapping elsewhere in the line would pop up other options. For some reason, TouchWiz's dialer shows a pop-up version and a full page version of the same thing depending on where you tap it, which needlessly requires the extra tap to redial. At least I can arrange my list by last name now, which was an unforgivable oversight in Timescape and other dialers I've messed around with (I assume it was that way in AOSP for so many to have that stupid flaw).

Yes you can, swipe left or right to call or text any entry in the call history, Samsung has had that feature since the Galaxy S1.
 
I've had my Note 3 since launch and I love this phone, especially with safestrap. However, I do wish I could give CM a try on it.
 
I've had my Note 3 since launch and I love this phone, especially with safestrap. However, I do wish I could give CM a try on it.

Afraid of tripping Knox?

That's my biggest gripe about this phone so far. Although if you have an international model and live in the US you're out of luck as far as warranties go in my experience.
 
Yes you can, swipe left or right to call or text any entry in the call history, Samsung has had that feature since the Galaxy S1.

A coworker actually showed me this yesterday on his Gingerbread Samsung Galaxy Blaze that I fixed for him (replaced the display assembly). Yes, I found that it works on the Note 3 as well.

Now the question is: Why differentiate between the two different places you can tap if they are essentially going to show you two different versions of the same thing? Also, why doesn't Samsung have a dismiss once/forever prompt to familiarize users with their dialer's unique swipe-to-call function when they have those everywhere else? More UI sins that could have been discovered/fixed with a simple focus group.
 
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