Exact spec of 512mb GTX to be 550/1600 standard, with OCed 600/1800 versions from retailers

[M0RPH]

Originally posted by: AthlonAlien
I am just wondering if you (or anyone) know if the GTX-512 will be able to use HDR and AA at the same time...?

Of course not. This rumored new card is still using the same G70 chip and we know it's not capable of HDR+AA. Rollo knows this too but he's so enamored with the idea of ths new super duper card, he refuses to acknowledge any of its weaknesses.

 

[Pabster]

Yep, you know nVidia is getting ready to stomp.

The ATi fans are already starting the old IQ and AA/AF/HDR arguements!

 

[the Chase]

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: the Chase
Well I'll buy one of these new 7800 GTX's as soon as they come out with a AGP version so I don't have to throw away my perfectly good $70 AGP motherboard!!:Q

good luck with that

hehe- some sarcasm with that post- If this card turns out how it is sounding it will be the impetus to have me go PCI-e!! Pair this card with a DFI N4 and my 3 GHz Opty= Gaming Heaven.

Edit- thanks for the heads up Rollo.:beer::beer:

 

[Cookie Monster]

Noticed this:

the new 7800GTX 512mb will be 550MHz GPU and 1600MHz memory, but there will be versions available with 600MHz GPU and 1800MHz memory, also new technology implemented in the 512mb version is a so called "rotation circle" which uses onboard G.C memory to process information faster. the pipelines stay intact.

New technology? what is G.C memory? rotation circle?

 

[flynnsk]

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
Noticed this:

the new 7800GTX 512mb will be 550MHz GPU and 1600MHz memory, but there will be versions available with 600MHz GPU and 1800MHz memory, also new technology implemented in the 512mb version is a so called "rotation circle" which uses onboard G.C memory to process information faster. the pipelines stay intact.

New technology? what is G.C memory? rotation circle?

I believe "G.C. memory" and "rotation circle" are Geekanese for " B*llsh*t .. "

 

[Cookie Monster]

Originally posted by: flynnsk

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
Noticed this:

the new 7800GTX 512mb will be 550MHz GPU and 1600MHz memory, but there will be versions available with 600MHz GPU and 1800MHz memory, also new technology implemented in the 512mb version is a so called "rotation circle" which uses onboard G.C memory to process information faster. the pipelines stay intact.

New technology? what is G.C memory? rotation circle?

I believe "G.C. memory" and "rotation circle" are Geekanese for " B*llsh*t .. "

I want discussions about it. Please stop the trolling.

 

[flynnsk]

/sigh .. you want to discuss technology that doesn't exist and you claim Im the one trolling.. IMO bringing up clearly false rumors ("a so called "rotation circle" which uses onboard G.C memory to process information faster.) is akin more to trolling than pointing out the obvious (that said rumor is BS).

 

[Mojoed]

Hrm, it looks like it's time for me to retire my Ti4600.

 

[Fadey]

i went from a ti 4200 to a 7800gtx about 2 months ago and im really killing my self now..

 

[computerABUSER]

Well, I am wanting to upgrade from my agp-mobo to the present technology (939 pci-e mobo) in about 3 weeks and so I have decided to get the MSI K8N Neo 4 SLI with the AMD64 4000 and of course the rocket-fast Geforce 7800GTX (256m)

However, with this new monster 7800GTX card coming down the pike I might as well see what all of the hoopla is all about I just might wait for it too but if it's not out by the time I get my upgrade $$$$ which will be on Nov.23,2005 then I WILL get the old slow poke Geforce 7800GTX (256m)

Regards to my fellow gamers
CA

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: Rollo
The X800 series is not competitive because it offers an inferior feature set, and inferior multi card.

Your one-sided interpretation only. The rest of the world simply called it impressive. The X850XT PE was the fastest single card available and is still the fastest AGP card available. Your constant clinging to the phrase "inferior feature set" is meaningless as SM3.0 STILL isn't being used except on a handful of games. I'd say ATI was correct in waiting until this generation to include it on their cards.

Originally posted by: Rollo
The X1800 series currently is more costly

For the moment. But I'm sure prices will drop quickly to compete with the 7800GTX/GT. Market demand and all that.

Originally posted by: Rollo
and offers more noise

Actually, measured noise levels between the 7800GTX/GT and X1800XT/XL are fairly close.

Originally posted by: Rollo
and less performance than the current nV cards.

The X1800XL falls a bit short of the 7800GT, but the X1800XT hangs right there with the 7800GTX despite having 8 less pipelines. I'd say that shows excellent engineering from ATI.

Originally posted by: Rollo
The upcoming X1800XT is about to be stomped flat, possibly before it ever see the light of day by a very attractively priced 512MB 7800GTX that still offers better multicard.

You'll have to excuse me if I choose to wait for a more... neutral... source of information concerning this.

Originally posted by: Rollo
I have no indication other than what I no the specs are, and what I've seen in reviews of the 490/1300 card, but I think ATI is in big trouble.

Yes, you've been saying "ATI is in big trouble" for a couple of years now and yet somehow they're still around. Amazing, isn't it?

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: flynnsk
/sigh .. you want to discuss technology that doesn't exist and you claim Im the one trolling.. IMO bringing up clearly false rumors ("a so called "rotation circle" which uses onboard G.C memory to process information faster.) is akin more to trolling than pointing out the obvious (that said rumor is BS).

Why didn't you just come flat out and tell us that you wanted to be ignored? Sheesh, that's all you had to do. /ignored.

 

[Yanagi]

IF that rumour is true, think of the rotation circle as ATi's internal 512bit bus. Thats my guess at least.

 

[Keysplayr]

ATI's 512-bit ring bus. Nv's rotated cirlce. Ring bus sounds "kewler" but who knows what the heck rotated circle is.

Here's one!

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Creig

Originally posted by: Rollo
The X800 series is not competitive because it offers an inferior feature set, and inferior multi card.

I'd say ATI was correct in waiting until this generation to include it on their cards.

So you wish developers didn't have FP blending, 32 bit FP precision, and SM 3 to make the games you'll be buying this year and next Creig?
Yeah, I was hoping we could all play Unreal 2 level games a few more years as well. :roll:

Originally posted by: Rollo
The X1800 series currently is more costly

For the moment. But I'm sure prices will drop quickly to compete with the 7800GTX/GT. Market demand and all that.

Haven't yet, I'm not Nostradamus, so I don't know they will. Prices on X850XT PEs haven't exactly plummeted.

Originally posted by: Rollo
and offers more noise

Actually, measured noise levels between the 7800GTX/GT and X1800XT/XL are fairly close.

The X1800s are louder, so what I said was accurate.

Originally posted by: Rollo
and less performance than the current nV cards.

The X1800XL falls a bit short of the 7800GT, but the X1800XT hangs right there with the 7800GTX despite having 8 less pipelines. I'd say that shows excellent engineering from ATI.

The X1800XL has to compete with the 7800GTX as it is similarly priced, and we don't know what retail X1800XTs will perform like. We haven't seen them. If we're going to talk unavailable products, the 512MB 7800GTX should mop the floor with the X1800XT.

Originally posted by: Rollo
The upcoming X1800XT is about to be stomped flat, possibly before it ever see the light of day by a very attractively priced 512MB 7800GTX that still offers better multicard.

You'll have to excuse me if I choose to wait for a more... neutral... source of information concerning this.

Whether I have "nVidia" tattooed on my ass and a pictures of the 5800U tacked to my headboard to look at while I make love to my wife, I don't lie here, never have, and you will see evidence of that yet again, very soon.

Originally posted by: Rollo
I have no indication other than what I no the specs are, and what I've seen in reviews of the 490/1300 card, but I think ATI is in big trouble.

Yes, you've been saying "ATI is in big trouble" for a couple of years now and yet somehow they're still around. Amazing, isn't it?

[/quote]

Still around with an under 30% high end market share, the only market I care about as an enthusiast. Amazing isn't it? That figure is about to drop, BTW.

 

[flynnsk]

The X1800XL has to compete with the 7800GTX as it is similarly priced, and we don't know what retail X1800XTs will perform like. We haven't seen them. If we're going to talk unavailable products, the 512MB 7800GTX should mop the floor with the X1800XT.

Really ?? walked into Best Buy last night ...

X1800XL 256MB PCI Express - $449.99
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp...ctCategoryId=cat01151&id=1127508537360

GeForce 7800 GTX OC Graphics Card - $599.99
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp...ctCategoryId=cat01151&id=1117178782621

GeForce 7800 GT OC Graphics Card - $399.99
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp...ctCategoryId=cat01151&id=1118843714616

Verto GeForce 7800 GT Graphics Card - $449.99
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp...ctCategoryId=cat01151&id=1122652682208

Well damn ,, OUTRAGOUS I say.. I better go check CompUSA:

Verto GeForce 7800GTX Video Card, PCI Express, 256MB DDR - 499.99 (MUCH better)
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=332146&pfp=BROWSE

GeForce 7800 GT OC Video Card, PCI Express, 256MB DDR3 - $399.99
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=333042&pfp=BROWSE

Verto GeForce 7800GT Video Card, PCI Express, 256MB DDR3 - $379.99
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=332688&pfp=BROWSE

GeForce 7800 GTX OC Video Card, PCI Express, 256MB DDR3 - $599.99
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=332035&pfp=BROWSE

Radeon X1800 XL Video Card, PCI Express, 256MB DDR3 - $449.99
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=335758&pfp=BROWSE

Well damn it ... how about Microcenter.. I want one of these TODAY !! I want to be able to hold it in my hands before I spend upwards of $500+ USD..

RADEON X1800 XL 256MB GDDR3 PCI-E x16 Video Card - $449.99
http://microcenter.com/byos/byos_single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0229007

GeForce 7800 GT 256MB DDR3 PCI-E x16 - $449.99
http://microcenter.com/byos/byos_single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0228374

e-GeForce 7800 GTX 256MB DDR3 PCI-E x16 Video Card - $529.99
http://microcenter.com/byos/byos_single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0218480



Point being... other than OEMs (Dell, HP etc) .. B&M retailers still acount for the largest portion of post POS sales, so for Joe Consumer who wants the latest and greatest and they WANT it today and they want to see what their spending their hard earned money on before hand, Joe is going to go to one of such retailers where they will be confronted by prices like above..

"But Rollo said the GTX is the competitor to the 1800XL.. " ... poor Joe...
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=332688&pfp=BROWSE

 

[ZobarStyl]

550 seems reasonable if they've tweaked the core (and we all know they've had time to), but 600 is a little extreme. As for the memory, it doesn't matter too terribly whether or not it's 1800 or just the 1500 that the XT has, both would be great for making up that 25% bandwidth deficiency between the GTX and XT, and maybe bring nV's AA to competing levels.

Edit: flynnsk, no one is impressed with you linking to BestBuy/CompUSA style stores. This argument comes up every time, and it always fails. If you buy anything computer related at BB/CUSA, you deserve to get ripped off. Just go buy your 450 dollar overpriced x1800XL and stop posting. Anyone with half a brain goes to an e-tailer.

 

[Tangerines]

Originally posted by: flynnsk

The X1800XL has to compete with the 7800GTX as it is similarly priced, and we don't know what retail X1800XTs will perform like. We haven't seen them. If we're going to talk unavailable products, the 512MB 7800GTX should mop the floor with the X1800XT.

Really ?? walked into Best Buy last night ...

X1800XL 256MB PCI Express - $449.99
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp...ctCategoryId=cat01151&id=1127508537360

GeForce 7800 GTX OC Graphics Card - $599.99
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp...ctCategoryId=cat01151&id=1117178782621

GeForce 7800 GT OC Graphics Card - $399.99
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp...ctCategoryId=cat01151&id=1118843714616

Verto GeForce 7800 GT Graphics Card - $449.99
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp...ctCategoryId=cat01151&id=1122652682208

Well damn ,, OUTRAGOUS I say.. I better go check CompUSA:

Verto GeForce 7800GTX Video Card, PCI Express, 256MB DDR - 499.99 (MUCH better)
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=332146&pfp=BROWSE

GeForce 7800 GT OC Video Card, PCI Express, 256MB DDR3 - $399.99
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=333042&pfp=BROWSE

Verto GeForce 7800GT Video Card, PCI Express, 256MB DDR3 - $379.99
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=332688&pfp=BROWSE

GeForce 7800 GTX OC Video Card, PCI Express, 256MB DDR3 - $599.99
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=332035&pfp=BROWSE

Radeon X1800 XL Video Card, PCI Express, 256MB DDR3 - $449.99
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=335758&pfp=BROWSE

Well damn it ... how about Microcenter.. I want one of these TODAY !! I want to be able to hold it in my hands before I spend upwards of $500+ USD..

RADEON X1800 XL 256MB GDDR3 PCI-E x16 Video Card - $449.99
http://microcenter.com/byos/byos_single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0229007

GeForce 7800 GT 256MB DDR3 PCI-E x16 - $449.99
http://microcenter.com/byos/byos_single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0228374

e-GeForce 7800 GTX 256MB DDR3 PCI-E x16 Video Card - $529.99
http://microcenter.com/byos/byos_single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0218480



Point being... other than OEMs (Dell, HP etc) .. B&M retailers still acount for the largest portion of post POS sales, so for Joe Consumer who wants the latest and greatest and they WANT it today and they want to see what their spending their hard earned money on before hand, Joe is going to go to one of such retailers where they will be confronted by prices like above..

"But Rollo said the GTX is the competitor to the 1800XL.. " ... poor Joe...
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=332688&pfp=BROWSE

If I can get a 7800 GT for $330 and an X1800XL for $390 on Newegg, why does it matter? Not to mention the 7800 GT runs significantly cooler than the X1800XL. For now, Nvidia is still the price/performance king.

 

[flynnsk]

Originally posted by: Tangerines

If I can get a 7800 GT for $330 and an X1800XL for $390 on Newegg, why does it matter? Not to mention the 7800 GT runs significantly cooler than the X1800XL. For now, Nvidia is still the price/performance king.

As far as the heat IIRC, the XL is not all that much more hotter than the GT, the difference being that the Catalyst driver software reports a higher temperature than actual temp readings,.. last i recall was approx 20C over

 

[ZobarStyl]

Originally posted by: flynnsk
As far as the heat IIRC, the XL is not all that much more hotter than the GT, the difference being that the Catalyst driver software reports a higher temperature than actual temp readings,.. last i recall was approx 20C over

Way to ignore the question directly concerning your huge post. Direct question, as in my above post: who buys their computer hardware at BB/CUSA? Why would you not go online and pay hundreds less?

 

[dnavarro]

/ignore flynn lmao

 

[solofly]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: swatX

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Madellga

Originally posted by: Paktu
That's kinda funny that the whole thread got started by Rollo's post on here. But read what that guy said later in the thread when asked for a source:

"a close friend of my relativ is working for Nvidia, i canot tell you anymore specifics about him as he is obligated by the work-license to not give out any information"

I'd feel better about this slickr fellow if he had passed second grade English.

I think Rollo's father works for Nvidia

LOL- dude- I'm 42. My dad is retired and travels, golfs, and fishes. I think you'd have a hard time convincing him to work for anyone.

WHAT!?

i thought you were more like 30-35ish . if you got any kids , they sure as hell are lucky to have a gamer dad

I'm the worlds only 42 year old man who only listens to TOOL, lives to game/fish/hunt. The wild five year old boy games and fishes with me, he wants to hunt when he's older.

He has a A64 3800+/6800GT SLI gaming computer, a XBox, a Game Boy Advance, and a Gameboy DS for his gaming antics. He's a better player than me at reflex games.

BTW- I've been a computer gamer since 1988. :beer:

I beat you. Gaming since 1982...

 

[flynnsk]

Originally posted by: ZobarStyl

Originally posted by: flynnsk
As far as the heat IIRC, the XL is not all that much more hotter than the GT, the difference being that the Catalyst driver software reports a higher temperature than actual temp readings,.. last i recall was approx 20C over

Way to ignore the question directly concerning your huge post. Direct question, as in my above post: who buys their computer hardware at BB/CUSA? Why would you not go online and pay hundreds less?

Reading Comprehension FTW ... Point being... other than OEMs (Dell, HP etc) .. B&M retailers still acount for the largest portion of post POS sales,

who buys their computer hardware at BB/CUSA?

Joe Consumer who wants the latest and greatest and they WANT it today and they want to see what their spending their hard earned money on before hand

 

[Cookie Monster]

Link

INQ confirms that the card is clocked at 550/1800. So what now? Nov 7th is like 24hours away (NZ), so guess were about to find out if its BS or not.

 

[crazydingo]

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27400">Link</a>

INQ confirms that the card is clocked at 550/1800. So what now? Nov 7th is like 24hours away (NZ), so guess were about to find out if its BS or not.

512MB 7800GTX is not slated for Nov 7.