ex won't pay back money he owes me

[Skunkwourk]

Originally posted by: Theguynextdoor

Originally posted by: deathkoba
Can't you try something like call him, record the conversation and ask him "why won't you pay me back xxx$$$???" The only real answer he can give you is "because xxxxxxxxx" and that should be sufficient evidence.

In some states that's illegal unless you have their permission to record their conversations, or have a warrant to do so.

Yeah I recall hearing something similar, I wouldn't do it. I dunno if you saw my edit, but do you have any way of contacting his parents? Seem like a more practical approach.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: Theguynextdoor

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: gar3555

Originally posted by: Theguynextdoor

Originally posted by: jasoned

Originally posted by: gar3555

Originally posted by: webcammie

Originally posted by: gar3555
no contract...that's a toughy...
Sounds like a bunch of He said She said.

Feel bad for ya though...had a similar thing happen.

I am hoping that when it comes down to he say she say, I will have better chance of winning because:
1) prior to meeting me, he owes the loan company 4 months worth of car payments.
2) he has VERY bad credits -- so bad that even the bank wont let him open up an account
3) he got fired from his job for misbehave conducts
4) and not to mention, he is a drop out from h.s. and doesn't have a job at all.

so i am hoping the judge would look in favor because i am much more responsible than him?

as stated above, do you have any emails or contacts where he admitted owing you? That would be a saving grace

not really. a signed contract is about your only saving grace.

Yeap. Emails are worthless in a court.

really...didn't know that...seems that with all the other given info, it would be icing on the cake. Of course a contract would have been ideal...but when you put your trust in someone bad things can happen

really? there worthless? thats funny because in most states you can provide notice of service thru email...

Ask me how I know...

i'm sure you are a lawyer but am i misinformed about service thru email?

 

[webcammie]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: webcammie

Originally posted by: gar3555
no contract...that's a toughy...
Sounds like a bunch of He said She said.

Feel bad for ya though...had a similar thing happen.

I am hoping that when it comes down to he say she say, I will have better chance of winning because:
1) prior to meeting me, he owes the loan company 4 months worth of car payments.
2) he has VERY bad credits -- so bad that even the bank wont let him open up an account
3) he got fired from his job for misbehave conducts
4) and not to mention, he is a drop out from h.s. and doesn't have a job at all.

so i am hoping the judge would look in favor because i am much more responsible than him?

wow, you sure know how to pickem! why do girls choose to go out with losers?

because were were young and stupid.

 

[Theguynextdoor]

Originally posted by: webcammie
what if i have witnesses????

What if he has witnesses that say you gave him the money? See the table go round and round?

 

[webcammie]

Originally posted by: Eghck

Originally posted by: Theguynextdoor

Originally posted by: deathkoba
Can't you try something like call him, record the conversation and ask him "why won't you pay me back xxx$$$???" The only real answer he can give you is "because xxxxxxxxx" and that should be sufficient evidence.

In some states that's illegal unless you have their permission to record their conversations, or have a warrant to do so.

Yeah I recall hearing something similar, I wouldn't do it. I dunno if you saw my edit, but do you have any way of contacting his parents? Seem like a more practical approach.

His parents are divorce. His dad is a gamble-holic and his mother doesn't work at all...she is on welfare. i dont think his parents will do anything for me.

 

[KK]

What made you go out with this loser? Was it that he was a drop out that attracted you to him? Was it his glamorous job he had? What kind of person would go out with trash like that? Do you think you can't do better than this type of person? Consider this a cheap lesson and smarten up, or you'll be knocked up with 4 kids before your 30. I for one, don't want to be supporting your kids.

 

[Theguynextdoor]

I'm done with this thread. Good luck whatever you decided to do. I hate to be the pessimistic person, but I'd chaulk it up as another hard lesson learned.

:beer:

 

[Skunkwourk]

Originally posted by: webcammie

Originally posted by: Eghck

Originally posted by: Theguynextdoor

Originally posted by: deathkoba
Can't you try something like call him, record the conversation and ask him "why won't you pay me back xxx$$$???" The only real answer he can give you is "because xxxxxxxxx" and that should be sufficient evidence.

In some states that's illegal unless you have their permission to record their conversations, or have a warrant to do so.

Yeah I recall hearing something similar, I wouldn't do it. I dunno if you saw my edit, but do you have any way of contacting his parents? Seem like a more practical approach.

His parents are divorce. His dad is a gamble-holic and his mother doesn't work at all...she is on welfare. i dont think his parents will do anything for me.

Yeah forget it then, don't sweat it. One way or another, he'll get his in the end. Doesn't sound like he has much a future and you just bought a new car. Know what I mean? Plus Im sure you aren't the first hes borrowed from, he'll learn his lesson from a loan shark or something. Move on.

 

[Theguynextdoor]

Originally posted by: webcammie

Originally posted by: Eghck

Originally posted by: Theguynextdoor

Originally posted by: deathkoba
Can't you try something like call him, record the conversation and ask him "why won't you pay me back xxx$$$???" The only real answer he can give you is "because xxxxxxxxx" and that should be sufficient evidence.

In some states that's illegal unless you have their permission to record their conversations, or have a warrant to do so.

Yeah I recall hearing something similar, I wouldn't do it. I dunno if you saw my edit, but do you have any way of contacting his parents? Seem like a more practical approach.

His parents are divorce. His dad is a gamble-holic and his mother doesn't work at all...she is on welfare. i dont think his parents will do anything for me.

What a winning combination to make a kid...

 

[webcammie]

Originally posted by: KK
What made you go out with this loser? Was it that he was a drop out that attracted you to him? Was it his glamorous job he had? What kind of person would go out with trash like that? Do you think you can't do better than this type of person? Consider this a cheap lesson and smarten up, or you'll be knocked up with 4 kids before your 30. I for one, don't want to be supporting your kids.

My friend introduced me to him and since I know my friend for a long time, I thought he was a good guy.

When I first started talking to him...he told me he was working at this internet gaming place so I thought he was into computers (I LOVE COMPUTER NERDS). Then he proceeded to tell me that he is planning to go back to college (he neglected to tell me he dropped out of high school).

Later, after I went out with him, I learned that he was VOLUNTEERING at this internet gaming place so that he could play games for free (??????!!!!). Anyways, to make a long story short, I got screwed over. period. I trusted the wrong guy.

And yes, this was a lesson well learned. Now I am MUCH MUCh careful when meeting guys, which explains why I am not with a guy right now. There are tooo many losers out there.

 

[imported_Ed]

Originally posted by: jasoned

Originally posted by: webcammie

Originally posted by: Childs

Originally posted by: webcammie

Originally posted by: gar3555
no contract...that's a toughy...
Sounds like a bunch of He said She said.

Feel bad for ya though...had a similar thing happen.

I am hoping that when it comes down to he say she say, I will have better chance of winning because:
1) prior to meeting me, he owes the loan company 4 months worth of car payments.
2) he has VERY bad credits -- so bad that even the bank wont let him open up an account
3) he got fired from his job for misbehave conducts
4) and not to mention, he is a drop out from h.s. and doesn't have a job at all.

so i am hoping the judge would look in favor because i am much more responsible than him?

heh...a guy like this gets a girlfriend, and $2K as well. So much for karma.

I didn't know any of this until I got with him...which by then was too late because I didn't want to leave him just because he was down in the dump. That would be messed up on my part. So I stuck it out and helped him straighten up his life -- now i am the one screwed!

Save the trees, kill the hippies.

let it go. sell advertising on your chest on ebay, youll make that ten fold.

 

[Skunkwourk]

Originally posted by: webcammie

Originally posted by: KK
What made you go out with this loser? Was it that he was a drop out that attracted you to him? Was it his glamorous job he had? What kind of person would go out with trash like that? Do you think you can't do better than this type of person? Consider this a cheap lesson and smarten up, or you'll be knocked up with 4 kids before your 30. I for one, don't want to be supporting your kids.

My friend introduced me to him and since I know my friend for a long time, I thought he was a good guy.

When I first started talking to him...he told me he was working at this internet gaming place so I thought he was into computers (I LOVE COMPUTER NERDS). Then he proceeded to tell me that he is planning to go back to college (he neglected to tell me he dropped out of high school).

Later, after I went out with him, I learned that he was VOLUNTEERING at this internet gaming place so that he could play games for free (??????!!!!). Anyways, to make a long story short, I got screwed over. period. I trusted the wrong guy.

And yes, this was a lesson well learned. Now I am MUCH MUCh careful when meeting a guy, which explains why I am not with a guy right now. There are tooo many losers out there.

Does anyone remember that show News Radio, where the Boss ran for President to get dates? Webcammie's is a self marketing genius just like that guy. :beer: for you

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: webcammie

Originally posted by: KK
What made you go out with this loser? Was it that he was a drop out that attracted you to him? Was it his glamorous job he had? What kind of person would go out with trash like that? Do you think you can't do better than this type of person? Consider this a cheap lesson and smarten up, or you'll be knocked up with 4 kids before your 30. I for one, don't want to be supporting your kids.

My friend introduced me to him and since I know my friend for a long time, I thought he was a good guy.

When I first started talking to him...he told me he was working at this internet gaming place so I thought he was into computers (I LOVE COMPUTER NERDS). Then he proceeded to tell me that he is planning to go back to college (he neglected to tell me he dropped out of high school).

Later, after I went out with him, I learned that he was VOLUNTEERING at this internet gaming place so that he could play games for free (??????!!!!). Anyways, to make a long story short, I got screwed over. period. I trusted the wrong guy.

And yes, this was a lesson well learned. Now I am MUCH MUCh careful when meeting guys, which explains why I am not with a guy right now. There are tooo many losers out there.

I'd kick your friends ass if I were you. Doesn't sound like to much of a friend to me.

 

[gar3555]

Originally posted by: webcammie

Originally posted by: KK
What made you go out with this loser? Was it that he was a drop out that attracted you to him? Was it his glamorous job he had? What kind of person would go out with trash like that? Do you think you can't do better than this type of person? Consider this a cheap lesson and smarten up, or you'll be knocked up with 4 kids before your 30. I for one, don't want to be supporting your kids.

My friend introduced me to him and since I know my friend for a long time, I thought he was a good guy.

When I first started talking to him...he told me he was working at this internet gaming place so I thought he was into computers (I LOVE COMPUTER NERDS). Then he proceeded to tell me that he is planning to go back to college (he neglected to tell me he dropped out of high school).

Later, after I went out with him, I learned that he was VOLUNTEERING at this internet gaming place so that he could play games for free (??????!!!!). Anyways, to make a long story short, I got screwed over. period. I trusted the wrong guy.

And yes, this was a lesson well learned. Now I am MUCH MUCh careful when meeting guys, which explains why I am not with a guy right now. There are tooo many losers out there.

You shouldn't say you love computer nerds here...your PM box is gonna be full soon

 

[Skunkwourk]

Originally posted by: gar3555

Originally posted by: webcammie

Originally posted by: KK
What made you go out with this loser? Was it that he was a drop out that attracted you to him? Was it his glamorous job he had? What kind of person would go out with trash like that? Do you think you can't do better than this type of person? Consider this a cheap lesson and smarten up, or you'll be knocked up with 4 kids before your 30. I for one, don't want to be supporting your kids.

My friend introduced me to him and since I know my friend for a long time, I thought he was a good guy.

When I first started talking to him...he told me he was working at this internet gaming place so I thought he was into computers (I LOVE COMPUTER NERDS). Then he proceeded to tell me that he is planning to go back to college (he neglected to tell me he dropped out of high school).

Later, after I went out with him, I learned that he was VOLUNTEERING at this internet gaming place so that he could play games for free (??????!!!!). Anyways, to make a long story short, I got screwed over. period. I trusted the wrong guy.

And yes, this was a lesson well learned. Now I am MUCH MUCh careful when meeting guys, which explains why I am not with a guy right now. There are tooo many losers out there.

You shouldn't say you love computer nerds here...your PM box is gonna be full soon

I think Kalbi is first in line.

 

[Theguynextdoor]

Originally posted by: webcammie
I trusted the wrong guy.

And now you're going to trust a bunch of guys on a computer forum for your legal advice?

 

[webcammie]

Originally posted by: gar3555

Originally posted by: webcammie

Originally posted by: KK
What made you go out with this loser? Was it that he was a drop out that attracted you to him? Was it his glamorous job he had? What kind of person would go out with trash like that? Do you think you can't do better than this type of person? Consider this a cheap lesson and smarten up, or you'll be knocked up with 4 kids before your 30. I for one, don't want to be supporting your kids.

My friend introduced me to him and since I know my friend for a long time, I thought he was a good guy.

When I first started talking to him...he told me he was working at this internet gaming place so I thought he was into computers (I LOVE COMPUTER NERDS). Then he proceeded to tell me that he is planning to go back to college (he neglected to tell me he dropped out of high school).

Later, after I went out with him, I learned that he was VOLUNTEERING at this internet gaming place so that he could play games for free (??????!!!!). Anyways, to make a long story short, I got screwed over. period. I trusted the wrong guy.

And yes, this was a lesson well learned. Now I am MUCH MUCh careful when meeting guys, which explains why I am not with a guy right now. There are tooo many losers out there.

You shouldn't say you love computer nerds here...your PM box is gonna be full soon

I am not saying it to get PMs from guys here. The guy asked me why I was attracted to that loser and it was because I THOUGHT he was a computer nerd. period. After him, I dated a guy who went to UCLA for a Master in computer science (and it didnt work out between us because he had to move back to his hometown which is 6 hrs away). And before that, I entered in UCLA wanting to major in computer science. So trust me when I say I am very into computer guys. That was one of my qualifications when I was looking for a guy but now that I am older, I learned that checklists dont work.

 

[webcammie]

Originally posted by: Theguynextdoor

Originally posted by: webcammie
I trusted the wrong guy.

And now you're going to trust a bunch of guys on a computer forum for your legal advice?

Not legal advice because I've already talked to my lawyer friend. I just wanted to know from experiences if I have a strong case or not since there are many people here and I want to know if someone had the same experience before.

For those who are interested, it is illegal to record conversation without the consent of ALL parties involved in California and other states such as:
Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Washington

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: webcammie
It is not about the money I care about -- it's the principle. I don't want him to think that he could borrow money and not return it. The only evidence I have in court is his car payment paper which I paid via my checking account. Other than that, I don't have any contract staying he owes me any money. I know this will come down to a he say she say kind of thing. So if any of you have experiences in this area, can you tell me what is the likelihood of me winning? thanks!

Likelihood = 0%

No contract, nothing to hold him to.

Chalk it up as a lesson learned and move on.

 

[imported_Ed]

Originally posted by: webcammie

Originally posted by: Theguynextdoor

Originally posted by: webcammie
I trusted the wrong guy.

And now you're going to trust a bunch of guys on a computer forum for your legal advice?

Not legal advice because I've already talked to my lawyer friend. I just wanted to know from experiences if I have a strong case or not since there are many people here and I want to know if someone had the same experience before.

lock the thread, there is no case.

ive lived this situation before.

pwned.

 

[FeuerFrei]

Originally posted by: Theguynextdoor

Originally posted by: webcammie
I trusted the wrong guy.

And now you're going to trust a bunch of guys on a computer forum for your legal advice?

You never know whether someone might be around who's been in the same situation.

 

[webcammie]

Originally posted by: jasoned

Originally posted by: webcammie

Originally posted by: Theguynextdoor

Originally posted by: webcammie
I trusted the wrong guy.

And now you're going to trust a bunch of guys on a computer forum for your legal advice?

Not legal advice because I've already talked to my lawyer friend. I just wanted to know from experiences if I have a strong case or not since there are many people here and I want to know if someone had the same experience before.

lock the thread, there is no case.

ive lived this situation before.

pwned.

What happened to you? Mind if I know? You can PM me if you want.

 

[imported_Ed]

A friend (girl) ran up a calling card of mine back in 96 or so.
Around $1-$2K was run up on it. Was told she'd pay me back.

When you give something to someone, the minute it exchanges hands without a
written, signed and notarized deal, youre done.

Aggravated and done.

And pwned. :thumbsdown:

 

[Theguynextdoor]

Originally posted by: FeuerFrei

Originally posted by: Theguynextdoor

Originally posted by: webcammie
I trusted the wrong guy.

And now you're going to trust a bunch of guys on a computer forum for your legal advice?

You never know whether someone might be around who's been in the same situation.

True, and there has been one in this thread. But assume that one person says everything against what the other 90 something people say. Who is the OP going to believe? The majority, or the single minority?

At least the OP talked to a REAL lawyer before asking us.

 

[webcammie]

Originally posted by: jasoned
A friend (girl) ran up a calling card of mine back in 96 or so.
Around $1-$2K was run up on it. Was told she'd pay me back.

When you give something to someone, the minute it exchanges hands without a
written, signed and notarized deal, youre done.

Aggravated and done.

And pwned. :thumbsdown:

I assumed you took her to court and lost? Sorry to hear that.