Ex-Epic Games developer looking to make an arena FPS shooter for PC

[moonbogg]

http://www.gamespot.com/nexuiz/

What about this one? Its a recent arena shooter that you've NEVER head of, isn't it?

EDIT: I think classic arena games are dead. Any new one would have to be, well, new. It would need some fun and unique stuff added. "Fun" and "Unique" tends to cost money from what I can tell, and if it were my money I'm not sure I would gamble it away on another arena shooter.
I think a great game would be something like a mix between Team Fortress and battlefield. I'm talking about a colorful bastardization of both types of game, melded into an unapologetically fun and ridiculous objective based shooter where everything is ridiculous except for the desire to grasp the objective.
Let me deploy a cartoony cannon that I can use to launch my team mates over a wall, like a really stupidly high and massive wall and then meet up with them to invade a base or something. let me strap on a jet pack, and every time I hit the gas on the thrusters the character makes a ghastly scared sound with a half laugh mixed in with it. Crazy crap like that would be fun. I'm talking true bastard here.

 

[Aikouka]

I bought Nexiuz awhile back during a Steam sale, and I finally loaded it up a few months back. Unfortunately, while I like Quake III and Unreal Tournament, I just didn't like Nexiuz. I don't know what it was, but the game just didn't feel good. I ended up playing Unreal Tournament 3 (the horror! ), and I still had quite a bit of fun -- once I got past the menus!

 

[Maleficus]

I own Nexuiz, it's a complete pile of shit.

and spammy weapons as a gateway for newbs is a stupid idea. You want to get some kills and be useful? get better.

Every weapon had it's place in 2k4 anyway, all weapons were utilized in 1v1 and TDM, go check out any frag video and you will see a ton of combo kills, bio kills, and multiple grenade kills (grenade, not flak).

 

[soccerballtux]

I bought Nexiuz awhile back during a Steam sale, and I finally loaded it up a few months back. Unfortunately, while I like Quake III and Unreal Tournament, I just didn't like Nexiuz. I don't know what it was, but the game just didn't feel good. I ended up playing Unreal Tournament 3 (the horror! ), and I still had quite a bit of fun -- once I got past the menus!

I own Nexuiz, it's a complete pile of shit.

and spammy weapons as a gateway for newbs is a stupid idea. You want to get some kills and be useful? get better.

Every weapon had it's place in 2k4 anyway, all weapons were utilized in 1v1 and TDM, go check out any frag video and you will see a ton of combo kills, bio kills, and multiple grenade kills (grenade, not flak).

owning the game on steam is not the right game:

On March 22, 2010, the fork Xonotic of Nexuiz was announced. Many of the core contributors and community members of Nexuiz moved to this new project as they felt that sale of the name Nexuiz mishandles the original project.

http://www.xonotic.org/

 

[PrincessFrosty]

Funny how only those people of old cry the arena shooters are gone.

Perhaps, the market decided they just weren't as interesting as the modern shooters we have now?

It has nothing at all to do with "interesting", it has entirely to do with expanding the gaming audience by appealing to casuals who want a pick up and immediately play type of experience. Back in the day the skill ceiling was so huge that some players could dominate entire servers single handedly, that effort vs reward curve is now gone.

These days we seem to have retained some hard core competitive games but they appear to be the LoL and Starcrafts type games, there's almost no fast paced first person shooters anymore. All our FPS games are designed around consoles with slow turn speeds and where your grandma can pick up the controller, mash a few buttons and score a free critical hit and get an easy kill, the skill ceiling has been lowered to almost not matter.

I'd welcome an oldschool arena based shooter back into the ranks, I played a bit of Quake back in the day but I entered serious PC gaming more around the UT99 days, a few hours of playing that Instagib and you'd be wired from the fast paced action. Ut2003 was really eugh, and 2004 revived it but it was always better for the more open onslaught maps, UT3 was an unmitigated disaster, but then it was made for consoles so hardly surprising.

Basically this is only going to work as a PC exclusive, if they can swing that deal it might stand a chance.

 

[HeXen]

It has nothing at all to do with "interesting", it has entirely to do with expanding the gaming audience by appealing to casuals who want a pick up and immediately play type of experience. Back in the day the skill ceiling was so huge that some players could dominate entire servers single handedly, that effort vs reward curve is now gone.

These days we seem to have retained some hard core competitive games but they appear to be the LoL and Starcrafts type games, there's almost no fast paced first person shooters anymore. All our FPS games are designed around consoles with slow turn speeds and where your grandma can pick up the controller, mash a few buttons and score a free critical hit and get an easy kill, the skill ceiling has been lowered to almost not matter.

I'd welcome an oldschool arena based shooter back into the ranks, I played a bit of Quake back in the day but I entered serious PC gaming more around the UT99 days, a few hours of playing that Instagib and you'd be wired from the fast paced action. Ut2003 was really eugh, and 2004 revived it but it was always better for the more open onslaught maps, UT3 was an unmitigated disaster, but then it was made for consoles so hardly surprising.

Basically this is only going to work as a PC exclusive, if they can swing that deal it might stand a chance.

The guys that get very good pretty much make play boring for everyone that isn't as competitive or have the time which narrows it down. There are so many great games released each year to distract you and not everyone has the kb/mouse setups required especially with desktop sales in general declining each year. I know I'm not investing in my desktop anymore. Getting a laptop and ps4 and theres no shortage of older guys like me going that direction as well.

 

[FalseChristian]

The guys that get very good pretty much make play boring for everyone that isn't as competitive or have the time which narrows it down. There are so many great games released each year to distract you and not everyone has the kb/mouse setups required especially with desktop sales in general declining each year. I know I'm not investing in my desktop anymore. Getting a laptop and ps4 and theres no shortage of older guys like me going that direction as well.

Speak for yourself. I'll be 50 in February, 2014 and I'll never turn traitor and go to a shitty console. I enjoy upgrading my desktop every once in awhile and I enjoy Quake III: Arena, U.T. 99 and U.T. III. We need another multi-player game of those 3 games caliber.

 

[HeXen]

Speak for yourself. I'll be 50 in February, 2014 and I'll never turn traitor and go to a shitty console. I enjoy upgrading my desktop every once in awhile and I enjoy Quake III: Arena, U.T. 99 and U.T. III. We need another multi-player game of those 3 games caliber.

I didn't say everyone now did I? I know quite a few like me already and the trends in purchases show that many don't have the hardware for twitch shooters anyway outside of desktop gamers. Everyone knows there is a niche category for everything but you can't be a traitor to gaming platforms, that is a preference and takes quite a childish mentality to be so biased about preferences. Enjoy your imaginary UT 2014 while you play the older ones cause so far Cliffy B is just "pitching" an idea so I wouldn't get too hopeful about anything.

 

[PrincessFrosty]

The guys that get very good pretty much make play boring for everyone that isn't as competitive or have the time which narrows it down. There are so many great games released each year to distract you and not everyone has the kb/mouse setups required especially with desktop sales in general declining each year. I know I'm not investing in my desktop anymore. Getting a laptop and ps4 and theres no shortage of older guys like me going that direction as well.

That's fine and there's a million CoD clones out there for you press X to win on, but there's still a viable PC audience who want oldschool games where there's a decent effort vs reward feedback loop.

Many of the older guys (I'm 30 now myself) tend to want to go towards the plug and play adn press X to win side of things, and that's fine, but some of us actually like that if you're getting your ass kicked it's because you've not practiced enough, and that when you do finally pull off an outstanding combo and capture an enemies flag in CTF the adrenaline rush is immense.

The friends I have which are gravitating towards consoles and the CoD press X to win games are those who have wives, children and simply no time, and that's fine, but they do not represent everyone.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I love gaming in general. Whether it be on pc or console or handhelds, I simply enjoy good game experiences. To me they are as grand as reading an adventure novel or watching a movie that brings you to a fantasy world.

Anyway, I am 32 and I still enjoy playing games on my pc. I dont see that changing for me anytime soon.

 

[soccerballtux]

That's fine and there's a million CoD clones out there for you press X to win on, but there's still a viable PC audience who want oldschool games where there's a decent effort vs reward feedback loop.

Many of the older guys (I'm 30 now myself) tend to want to go towards the plug and play adn press X to win side of things, and that's fine, but some of us actually like that if you're getting your ass kicked it's because you've not practiced enough, and that when you do finally pull off an outstanding combo and capture an enemies flag in CTF the adrenaline rush is immense.

The friends I have which are gravitating towards consoles and the CoD press X to win games are those who have wives, children and simply no time, and that's fine, but they do not represent everyone.

I feel the opposite. Levelling in COD is a turnoff. Fire to Win (hardcore FPS) are easiest to get in and pwn at