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Ex-CIA agent: US invents its own enemies

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WHiskey, if you keep this up, I will soon have enough posts from you about this to show you are a stalker. Do you want that?

It was a temp ban for a badly worded joke...made a decade ago. You have serious issues if you think that was a big deal.

But I am serious about collecting the info on you repeatedly posting this nonsense and handing it over to the mods, I offer this as a warning to you to just stop. Last warning though.

EDIT: Do you realize that almost 3% of your posts have been to run around telling people this stuff?

Whining, snivelling, and threats in the same post. What a desperate Troll.

You're not being stalked, merely identified for what you are.

This whole bit wrt Blix & alleged Iraqi WMD's is extremely trollish, because it's not your place to define what are & what aren't WMD's- it's that of the UN, and Blix acting as their agent.

Just because your personal definition of day is night doesn't mean it has any relationship to the reality that the rest of us share. So get over yourself.
 
But I am serious about collecting the info on you repeatedly posting this nonsense and handing it over to the mods, I offer this as a warning to you to just stop. Last warning though.
Ahh, a personal threat upon the internet. Hardly constructive, eh? Pull the trigger, take me out. 😵

cybrsage, over a few years -- just before your permament banishment (for trolling, dishonesty, misquoting, and intentional thread derailing) from the Rage3d's Politics & Religion subforum -- I recall witnessing you getting thoroughly trashed upon this very subject of false claims for Iraqi WMDs and of your absolutely stupid claim for full legality of the US led invasion of Iraq (plus your other favs such as anti-abortion, creationism, anti-gay marriage, anti-anthroprogenic climate change, etc).

Upon your lonely promotion of the Iraq war being fully legal due to Iraqi WMDs, you accomplished quite the rare and surprising thing on an internet forum -- getting all vocal political stripes of the Rage3D P&R to chastice you for continuing a lost argument in vain. That unintentional political bridge building took a surprisingly skill of stubborness and of argumentative ineptitude -- bravo! 😉

Not only in this thread are you again repeating your typically frustrating modus operandi of excessive posting that turn you into the centre of discussion while you refuse to concede correction, all to dishonestly antagonise an argument. Your jig is clear, and it's of fair decorum for those who may not know better, to have an honest perspective of what character they may conduct a discussion with and if any such discussion is worthy of their time and effort
 
I've seen some claims that WMDs were shipped out of Iraq to various locations just prior to the 2003 invasion, but nothing to substantiate such assertions, nor anyone before you claiming such a thing happened in 2008. Everything else I've seen on the matter suggests that aside from a few old scraps in forgotten stockpiles, Saddam destroyed his WMDs long before the invasion. Even the government officials I've seen comment on the matter suggest the same, including Bush himself. So, where are you getting your claim to the contrary from?

Well it happen before the war and Syria nor anyone else is going to talk about it. But photo's clearly showed hundreds of trucks moving in and out from Syria to Iraq. Wonder what were they transporting.

And also looking in a factory or plant that makes or is capable of making these weapons your not going to find therm there. They could be hidden deep underground with no one finding them. They couldn't even find Bin Laden in the middle East for 9 years how are they going to find something that can be hidden anywhere. They did not find much but thats no proof that there we not any.
 
Oh yes, and then after being banned or fully unwelcome to then move onto the next site, posting in the identical, dishonest, strawman,misquoting, antagonising fashion. It is AnandTech's privilege to now have him as an overtly prolific resident.

Exactly....he posts the exact same lies on two forums, gets called out on his obvious lies and then gets owned both times.

Hopefully he will be banned and he will move on to another forum claiming that Iraq had WMD, and another group of people will own him as well.
 
Well it happen before the war and Syria nor anyone else is going to talk about it. But photo's clearly showed hundreds of trucks moving in and out from Syria to Iraq. Wonder what were they transporting.

And also looking in a factory or plant that makes or is capable of making these weapons your not going to find therm there. They could be hidden deep underground with no one finding them. They couldn't even find Bin Laden in the middle East for 9 years how are they going to find something that can be hidden anywhere. They did not find much but thats no proof that there we not any.

Magnificent string of half baked rationalizations. There's no proof that Bigfoot doesn't exist, either, so gullible people will continue to believe that he does.

Reference Russell's Teapot.
 
Magnificent string of half baked rationalizations. There's no proof that Bigfoot doesn't exist, either, so gullible people will continue to believe that he does.

Reference Russell's Teapot.

Is there proof that he exists?
Reference Thomas the Tank Engine
 
Source?


Source?

http://www.2la.org/syria/iraq-wmd.php
http://www.2la.org/syria/wmd.html

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/3/2/230625.shtml
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The following is a translation of a newly posted Iraqi document done by an unofficial translator. The document, posted in Arabic, is from a Department Of Defense program. It is dated July 13 — probably 2003.

In it an Iraqi opposition source (a Kurd) working in Syria reports on the movement of Iraqi trucks to Syria before the start of the US invasion of Iraq. It is his understanding that the trucks contained proscribed weapons of mass destruction.
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Here is one page from the pdf file showing the original document in Arabic:
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Iraq's WMD Secreted in Syria, Sada Says By IRA STOLL January 26, 2006 The man who served as the no. 2 official in Saddam Hussein's air force says Iraq moved weapons of mbutt destruction into Syria before the war by loading the weapons into civilian aircraft in which the pbuttenger seats were removed. The Iraqi general, Georges Sada, makes the charges in a new book, "Saddam's Secrets," released this week. He detailed the transfers in an interview yesterday with The New York Sun. "There are weapons of mbutt destruction gone out from Iraq to Syria, and they must be found and returned to safe hands," Mr. Sada said. "I am confident they were taken over." Mr. Sada's comments come just more than a month after Israel's top general during Operation Iraqi Freedom, Moshe Yaalon, told the Sun that Saddam "transferred the chemical agents from Iraq to Syria."
http://www.barossa-region.org/Austr...o-Hit-DamascusNext-step-of-A-Clean-Break.html

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2004/oct/28/20041028-122637-6257r/?page=all

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/3/2/230625.shtml
According to Shaw, Russian units hid Saddam's arsenal inside Syria and in Lebanon's Bekka valley.

"While in Iraq I uncovered detailed information that Spetsnatz units shredded records and moved all WMD and specified advanced munitions out of Iraq to Syria and Lebanon," stated Shaw during an exclusive interview.

"I received information from several sources naming the exact Russian units, what they took and where they took both WMD materials and conventional explosives. Moscow made a 2001 agreement with Saddam Hussein to clear up all Russian involvement in WMD systems in Iraq," stated Shaw.

Shaw's assertions match the information provided by U.S. military forces that satellite surveillance showed extensive large-vehicle traffic crossing the Syrian border prior to Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Moscow Paranoid About WMD

Shaw's information also backs allegations by a wide variety of sources of Russia's direct involvement in Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program. One U.N. bioterrorism expert announced that Russia has been Iraq's "main supplier of the materials and know-how to weaponize anthrax, botulism and smallpox."

Writing in the Wall Street Journal, Robert Goldberg cited former U.N. weapons inspector Richard Spertzel, who stated that Moscow supplied Baghdad with fermentation equipment to produce biotoxins.

According to Spertzel, the Russians on the U.N. inspection team in Iraq were "paranoid" about his efforts to uncover smallpox production.

Goldberg noted that no country has "done more to rebuild" Saddam's chemical and biological weapons programs or "been more aggressive in helping hide the truth" than Russia.

It is a fact that Saddam Hussein rose to power backed by Russian weapons and Russian money. Saddam was in debt to Moscow for over $8 billion for the arms he purchased from Russia when he was captured by U.S. forces.

The primary Iraqi chemical weapons were VX nerve gas and mustard gas, a blistering agent, both obtained from Russia.

According to the book "Russian Military Power," published in 1982, "It is known that the Soviets maintain stocks of CW (chemical weapons) agents."

The two primary Russian chemical weapons in the 1982 Soviet inventory were the nerve agent "VX" and "blistering agents - developments of mustard gas used so effectively in World War I."

The media blasted the headline that Charles Duelfer, the head of the Iraq Survey Group tasked with finding out if Saddam had WMDs, concluded that a transfer did not occur. In reality, his report said they were “unable to complete its investigation and is unable to rule out the possibility that WMD was evacuated to Syria before the war” due to the poor security situation.

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John Loftus, a former Justice Department prosecutor known for his wide-ranging contacts in the intelligence community, said in an interview we did that “every senior member of a Western, European or Asian intelligence service whom I have ever met all agree that the Russians moved the last of the WMDs out of Iraq in the last few months before the war.”

New testimony from the former chief of the Israeli Defense Forces buttresses claims that Saddam Hussein’s WMDs were transported to Syria, explaning the failure of Coalition and Iraqi forces to locate them.

General Moshe Yaalon told the New York Sun that Iraq’s chemical weapons went to Syria shortly before the war began.

Entifadh Qanbar, who formerly worked with the Iraqi National Congress group opposed to Saddam Hussein and is now an official at the Iraqi embassy said he agreed with Yaalon’s statement. Qanbar said that the Iraqis lacked an independent intelligence agency and so they couldn’t investigate the issue.
http://www.nysun.com/foreign/saddams-wmd-moved-to-syria-an-israeli-says/24480/

Ha’aretz has revived the mystery surrounding the inability to find weapons of mass destruction stockpiles in Iraq, the most commonly cited justification for Operation Iraqi Freedom and one of the most embarrassing episodes for the United States. Satellite photos of a suspicious site in Syria are providing new support for the reporting of a Syrian journalist who briefly rocked the world with his reporting that Iraq’s WMD had been sent to three sites in Syria just before the invasion commenced.

The newspaper reveals that a 200 square-kilometer area in northwestern Syria has been photographed by satellites at the request of a Western intelligence agency at least 16 times, the most recent being taken in January. The site is near Masyaf, and it has at least five installations and hidden paths leading underneath the mountains. This supports the reporting of Nizar Nayouf, an award-winning Syrian journalist who said in 2004 that his sources confirmed that Saddam Hussein’s WMDs were in Syria.

A Pentagon document reveals that an Iraqi dissident reported that 50 trucks crossed the border on March 10, 2003, and that his sources in Syria confirmed they carried WMD. These trucks have been talked about frequently and remain a mystery.

Although the search for WMD had been conducted earnestly and fruitlessly during the initial year of the occupation, site exploitation continued through the summer of 2004. In late summer and early fall, the WMD search tempo slowed considerably; all of the most promising sites had been exploited in 2003-2004 and even most of the unpromising sites had been exploited by fall of 2004.

In late September and into October 2004, the number of site exploitations increased significantly, although most of these were revisits to already-exploited sites - some of which had been altered by Iraqis in the intervening months. For instance: the former Iraqi Chemical Brigade headquarters building in Baghdad was in the midst of being converted to office space when ISG personnel returned for a second visit.

ISG's exploitation operations mostly ceased in early November 2004. Most MCTs were disbanded and the personnel returned to their parent units and the MP teams that supported them were dispersed to other camps and given other missions.

In January 2005, the group announced the conclusion of its search. The ISG stated that while it had, "not found evidence that Saddam possessed WMD stocks in 2003," they acknowledged "the possibility that some weapons existed in Iraq, although not of a militarily significant capability."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Survey_Group

You want more?
 
New testimony from the former chief of the Israeli Defense Forces buttresses claims that Saddam Hussein’s WMDs were transported to Syria, explaning the failure of Coalition and Iraqi forces to locate them.

Since some people on the board like to pretend we found WMD.. that is saying we didn't obviously.

However, the syria stuff until you find WMD is just rumor. Look at all of the other fictitious evidence surrounding the iraq war. Remember all of the talk about mobile WMD factories?

Let's go ask "curveball" for some more inside information!
 
According to you, if they found a nuclear bomb, minus the electronics to make it explode, it would not have been a WMD. That is why your argument fails.

WMDs are more than just fully assembled devices.

By your logic, the average american household has more WMDs under their kitchen sink than were found by the UN in Iraq.
 
By your logic, the average american household has more WMDs under their kitchen sink than were found by the UN in Iraq.

Close. Most do not have enough concentration of anything to make anything work.

When people do have enough, and they are raided for doing something wrong, the police/FBI always tell the press they had "bomb making materials".
 
Close. Most do not have enough concentration of anything to make anything work.

When people do have enough, and they are raided for doing something wrong, the police/FBI always tell the press they had "bomb making materials".

Woah! Loosen up the tin foil dude! 😱😱😱
 
It is simply something they add to the already long list of items. Sadly, things like this are needed to make someone go to jail for any length of time.

No wonder you are delusional.....all that tin foil has given you some odd form of aluminum poisoning from all that tightly wrapped tin foil on your head.
 
No wonder you are delusional.....all that tin foil has given you some odd form of aluminum poisoning from all that tightly wrapped tin foil on your head.

Actually, if you knew anything about radio waves, tinfoil shaped into a hat amplifies them, not blocks them.

Testing was done...yeah, some people have too much free time.
 
Actually, if you knew anything about radio waves, tinfoil shaped into a hat amplifies them, not blocks them.

Testing was done...yeah, some people have too much free time.

So you are admitting you are delusional? You agree now that Iraq didn't have WMD (since Blix himself said none were found) and Obama was born in the US?
 
No, I am simply correcting a false assumption you have. Reading comprehension is not your forte, apparently.

LOL....so tell us, how many forums have you trolled, only to have you a@@ handed to you? At least two, right?

So 2 (3?) times, you have knowingly lied and claimed Iraq had WMD, despite having no proof. 2 (or 3?) times, people have posted many many links from official UN reports and documents, and official US reports and documents all saying that Iraq had NO WMD. You in return scream "coward" and run away, without posting anything in your defense.

So, again, you and Rick Santorum being the only two people in the country to claim this, and all UN and US government officials all say you are wrong, but you still think you are right. 😱😱😱

That truly is delusional. But I guess a bigoted birther doesn't care about the truth anyway.
 
Of course; them filthy Jews will try to convince you that American companies are dependent on Taiwanese companies like TSMC/UMC to manufacture their chips (that would be China for you, after US leaves the area), that US electronics industry needs rare earth materials to manufacture (Chinese again), that nearly all batteries come from the Far East... Not to mention the energy resources coming from the Middle East.

But you don't care about the conspiracy, you know better. Screw the filthy Jews, you mutter, we don't need no stinkin' cellphones or computers. We'll manage.

Vermin like you are nibbling on the USA from the inside, hoping it will cause the collapse of its allies. Keep on trying.

Plenty of cutting edge integrated circuits are manufactured in the states, just ask IBM. We also have shittons of lithium deposits; the only reason our own mines aren't operating at the moment is that the Chinese are artifically depressing the price. As far as energy resources we have tons of oil, coal and thorium. The US is a net exporter of oil. So no, we don't "depend" on china; they desperately depend on US to lift their country of billions of peasants out of poverty with trade. The US gives China their crumbs and the PRC tell their serfs that they stole the entire loaf, lol.

And Americans are sick and fucking tired of Zionist meddling in our domestic and international politics; disliking undue Zionist influence in a democratic country does not an anti-Semite make no matter how many impassioned screeds claim otherwise. With friends like Israel, who needs enemies?
 
Yes, naive indeed. What they don't understand is that terrorists hate us for our freedom. Thus, by us not interfering with the Middle East would not have an affect on their hate towards us. The only way for us to be safe from them is if we instituted a Sharia fundamentalist Muslim state, and clearly that is against our founding principles so we must kill them all.

Oh and this Ex-CIA agent, who gives a shit that he has twenty years of experience investigating terrorists in the middle east. HE ENDORSES RON PAUL! That, in itself, discredits him. Jokethread is jokes.

http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/1371215416001/

They hate us for our freedom now? I guess our freedom to bomb them and kill their family, friends, and neighbors, burn down their homes and burn down their businesses and kill their livestock, spewing unexploded ordnance and munitions in fields where they work and their children play. Yes that really pisses them off.
 
And Americans are sick and fucking tired of Zionist meddling in our domestic and international politics; disliking undue Zionist influence in a democratic country does not an anti-Semite make no matter how many impassioned screeds claim otherwise. With friends like Israel, who needs enemies?

Out of curiosity, can you show a few examples of this Zionist meddling you mentioned?
 
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