Evo Android Task Killer ** Rooted it

[olds]

Is there a task killer that once you close a task, keeps that task from starting back up on it's own?

I don't want to root my phone and the Sprint crap keeps starting itself back up and running my battery down too quickly.

EDIT
Just rooted the phone.

 

[thescreensavers]

^ Stop using task killers, that's what is killing your battery.

There is no way to keep that stuff from loading, unless you uninstall them which requires root.

 

[olds]

LOL :hmm:
I just installed the task killer in response to the apps running.

 

[thescreensavers]

^ look for the app

System Panel Lite

It will show you what apps are cached which many app killers wont tell you that and say they are running

There is nothing you can do about the running apps unless you Root and uninstall or just rename the files names Which is what I did on my Droid X.

And the the Evo, the CPU is constantly ran at 100% due to some software thing sprint installed which is why the battery does not last as long as other android phones.

 

[Soccerman06]

Advanced Task Killer, atk, has a auto kill every so often (30 min 1/2/4 hour only when screen off) and you can set ignores like clock and whatnot. There are ones that autokill, but why not just root and get rid of those, its better than constantly killing.

^ and no thats not it.

 

[thescreensavers]

Task killers are pointless and a waste of battery. in 2.1+

 

[AznAnarchy99]

I was wondering the same thing because I've been reading the post about rooting my epic and it seems that it is still not very stable and a lot of people still having problems

 

[olds]

Advanced Task Killer, atk, has a auto kill every so often (30 min 1/2/4 hour only when screen off) and you can set ignores like clock and whatnot. There are ones that autokill, but why not just root and get rid of those, its better than constantly killing.

^ and no thats not it.

I am afraid to root the phone. I am a n00b and the threads I have seen on it are WAY too convoluted/wordy.

I need it complete and concise:
1. download "x" to desktop
2. do "y" with "z"

Not:
INSTUCTIONS FOR ROOTING:

- Put the PC36IMG.zip on the root of your sdcard

Code:

adb push PC36IMG.zip /sdcard

- Power off the phone
- Hold volume down while powering the phone on. continue to hold volume down until you see the WHITE bootloader screen.
- After a few seconds it will begin to checking for files, and find PC36IMG.zip. while its doing this it will show a blue progress bar while its checking. (this takes 30 - 60 seconds to finish)
- It will then list all the images in the zip and ask you if want to flash. SAY YES
- When its finished it will ask you if you would like to reboot. AGAIN... SAY YES
- At this point it will boot into a rooted rom.
- YOU ARE NOW ROOT!!!
- rename the PC36IMG.zip on your sdcard:
- plug your phone into a usb port on your desktop and do:

Code:

adb shell mv /sdcard/PC36IMG.zip /sdcard/root-PC36IMG.zip

RECOVERY INSTRUCTIONS:

- Extract the evorecovery.zip to your desktop
- plug your phone into a usb port on your desktop
- In a shell:

Code:

adb reboot recovery

- this will reboot your EVO into recovery mode. at this point turn your attention to the directory u extracted the evorecovery.zip to.

Code:

For Windows XP ~~> Run recovery-windows.bat
For Vista and Windows 7 do it as Admin

- in a shell do:

Code:

For Linux ~~> ./recovery-linux.sh

- at this point turn your attention to the phone and navigate to create a Nandriod Backup. you can now flash custom roms, write, and make changes to system.

- to flash a custom rom put the rom on the root of your sdcard. wipe data, dalvic cache and chose the option to flash update.zip from sdcard.

RECOVERY NAVIGATION:

-
Code:

Volume up/down moves through the list and Power selects.

RECOVERY SOURCE:

- http://github.com/jhansche/amonra_bo...ree/supersonic

Code:

git clone git://github.com/jhansche/amonra_bootable_recovery.git
git checkout supersonic

Once you have finished and rooted your device. please flash another rooted rom from the forum. Flipz has made a root build of the rom that came on the device. it can be found HERE. you will need to wipe data and dalvic cache before flashing this. And again because i cant stress it enough... DO NOT accept a OTA update from Sprint or use a RUU, or u risk lossing root forever, and ever

HOW TO RETURN BACK TO STOCK BUILD:

-Easy peasy- run the RUU in the first post of this thread. this is the only RUU that after flashing, you will still be able to root using this method. link below:

ROOT SAFE STOCK RUU

I have no idea what a RUU is.
I don't not know what "root of your sdcard" is...
I have no idea what the "code" entries mean.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

There's an easier one off xda but some people can't even get it to work which is what's keeping me from trying it

 

[YoungGun21]

It really is much easier than you think.

root of SD = not in any folders. Like if your SD shows up in your computer as E: \ then your PB36IMG.zip would go E: \PB36IMG.zip.

RUU= Radio Update Utility aka the official update from your carrier that was available for download and did not come OTA (over the air)

There should be versions where you do not have to use ADB to root. I didn't have to use it to root my Incredible. Check and see if Unrevoked works for your phone, that's what I used.

Also, don't use a task killer with 2.2.

 

[SandEagle]

TaskPanel is great. has a kill and ignore list.

 

[slightlyhuman]

Task killers are pointless and a waste of battery. in 2.1+

care to elaborate?

 

[zerocool84]

care to elaborate?

The people who made Android have already said that it makes it more unstable and eat more battery life. I`ll dig up the article they released.

Here it is: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html

 

[slightlyhuman]

The people who made Android have already said that it makes it more unstable and eat more battery life. I`ll dig up the article they released.

Here it is: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html

just uninstalled atk. thanks!

 

[olds]

It really is much easier than you think.

root of SD = not in any folders. Like if your SD shows up in your computer as E: \ then your PB36IMG.zip would go E: \PB36IMG.zip.

RUU= Radio Update Utility aka the official update from your carrier that was available for download and did not come OTA (over the air)

There should be versions where you do not have to use ADB to root. I didn't have to use it to root my Incredible. Check and see if Unrevoked works for your phone, that's what I used.

Also, don't use a task killer with 2.2.

Thanks for the info.
What are the code entries, is this something I have to do?

IE:
Code
adb shell mv /sdcard/PC36IMG.zip /sdcard/root-PC36IMG.zip

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Auto killing is dumb because a lot of stuff gets loaded into Android, but for people who use task killers on a manual basis, that's ok.

Just realize that Android has a tendency to preload stuff, so it's a balance of memory. You want at least 40mb+ free minimum. This is an issue for the 256mb devices, but the 512mb devices are usually fine. I try to maintain 60mb+ on my DROID. Anything down to 30s is noticeably slow + redraws.

I think too many people are quick to judge and say "OMG TASK KILLERS DUMB" because Android developers said so. This is as dumb as saying Steve Jobs says we don't need multitasking or whoever at MS said people don't use Copy & Paste. Fact is we all know Android has memory issues when you go down to a certain point. No doubt that Android has a decent memory management system, but if we can already accept that memory use has improved from 1.5 => 1.6 => 2.0 => 2.1 => 2.2, then obviously there's been improvement. Moreover, there's room for MORE improvement. So for people to say "don't touch it" is probably the dumbest thing ever. It's almost ironic considering the amount of Apple hate here and how people bash iOS for not giving you choice and forcing you to live with what the OS gives you. Well memory management is where too many people let Google decide what to do. Maybe that's why the multitasking is iffy too.

Is auto killing the solution? Not really, but some clever use of the "Autokiller" program by adjusting "Min Free" is actually a decent solution. So is using a prog like Autostarts to make sure a bunch of crap doesn't get loaded at startup.

When people say that killing tasks kills your battery, it depends. If you auto kill every 5 minutes, duh. If you kill every 1 hr, it might not be that bad. I'm willing to bet that an auto kill 24 times a day will use probably like 2-3% of your battery. That's like what a replacement launcher like Launcher Pro will use. Big deal. When you kill every minute or everytime your screen flips on or off, that might be an issue because I'm sure that happens MANY times in a day. So it all depends. Personally I used to manual kill every day or two when it got sluggish. Now I just use a MinFree tweak, but even then a reboot every 2-3 days makes my Droid speedy again.

 

[zerocool84]

Auto killing is dumb because a lot of stuff gets loaded into Android, but for people who use task killers on a manual basis, that's ok.

Just realize that Android has a tendency to preload stuff, so it's a balance of memory. You want at least 40mb+ free minimum. This is an issue for the 256mb devices, but the 512mb devices are usually fine. I try to maintain 60mb+ on my DROID. Anything down to 30s is noticeably slow + redraws.

I think too many people are quick to judge and say "OMG TASK KILLERS DUMB" because Android developers said so. This is as dumb as saying Steve Jobs says we don't need multitasking or whoever at MS said people don't use Copy & Paste. Fact is we all know Android has memory issues when you go down to a certain point. No doubt that Android has a decent memory management system, but if we can already accept that memory use has improved from 1.5 => 1.6 => 2.0 => 2.1 => 2.2, then obviously there's been improvement. Moreover, there's room for MORE improvement. So for people to say "don't touch it" is probably the dumbest thing ever. It's almost ironic considering the amount of Apple hate here and how people bash iOS for not giving you choice and forcing you to live with what the OS gives you. Well memory management is where too many people let Google decide what to do. Maybe that's why the multitasking is iffy too.

Is auto killing the solution? Not really, but some clever use of the "Autokiller" program by adjusting "Min Free" is actually a decent solution. So is using a prog like Autostarts to make sure a bunch of crap doesn't get loaded at startup.

When people say that killing tasks kills your battery, it depends. If you auto kill every 5 minutes, duh. If you kill every 1 hr, it might not be that bad. I'm willing to bet that an auto kill 24 times a day will use probably like 2-3% of your battery. That's like what a replacement launcher like Launcher Pro will use. Big deal. When you kill every minute or everytime your screen flips on or off, that might be an issue because I'm sure that happens MANY times in a day. So it all depends. Personally I used to manual kill every day or two when it got sluggish. Now I just use a MinFree tweak, but even then a reboot every 2-3 days makes my Droid speedy again.

I'm not saying you're wrong but read the article I linked to. I don't use task killers all the time but do still have one installed just in-case I might need it.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

I'm not saying you're wrong but read the article I linked to. I don't use task killers all the time but do still have one installed just in-case I might need it.

Well yeah, that's probably the best thing to do.

I treat it like a CTRL+ALT+DEL or whatever the shortcut is for task manager in Win 7. You shouldn't have to kill your apps, but the occasional rogue app does come up from time to time.

I noticed with my N1, RAM isn't an issue, but it is a huge issue on my DROID.

 

[zerocool84]

Well yeah, that's probably the best thing to do.

I treat it like a CTRL+ALT+DEL or whatever the shortcut is for task manager in Win 7. You shouldn't have to kill your apps, but the occasional rogue app does come up from time to time.

I noticed with my N1, RAM isn't an issue, but it is a huge issue on my DROID.

I have an old Samsung Moment and that gets filled up fast as well.

 

[boomhower]

Task killers are a waste.

 

[coolVariable]

... except that task killers can and do make a difference in battery life.
In my experience (2.2), task killers can save as much as 10-20% battery over the course of one day.

 

[boomhower]

... except that task killers can and do make a difference in battery life.
In my experience (2.2), task killers can save as much as 10-20% battery over the course of one day.

No they don't, if you know what your doing at least. Task Killers are good for closing hung apps. Other than that Android does an excellent job of killing of apps when needed. Go read how Android works and report back. Once you understand how apps are kept open you will understand task killers are not needed.

 

[Deeko]

People get so strangely self righteous about task killers in Android. I've used every version of Android since 1.0, across many devices, and one of the first things I install on my phone is TasKiller. No, I don't use any auto kill functions, but when my phone (inevitably) starts grinding to a crawl, I hit the widget on the desktop, it frees up a ton of memory, and suddenly everything is smooth again.

Unfortunately, on topic, no, I don't know of a task killer that does what olds wants.

 

[olds]

No they don't, if you know what your doing at least. Task Killers are good for closing hung apps. Other than that Android does an excellent job of killing of apps when needed. Go read how Android works and report back. Once you understand how apps are kept open you will understand task killers are not needed.

Ya, they are needed.
I don't need 90% of what Sprint puts on the phone running at all.

 

[s44]

You're using the wrong tool for this job. Root plus Titanium is much more complete and elegant, with no ugly side effects. I think you can zap the apps with adb as well.